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Thread: Does the level system turn new players off from becoming crafters?
Ryuukon wrote:See I have exactly the opposite problem as most other people here. I would love to play a crafter but the whole problem is, the market is saturated, atleast on Bria.
Any new player who wants to start crafting, or old player that wants to convert to crafting, is stuck with some major hurdles, more so than the combat professions. There are just sooooo many established crafters, all of whom are 12 - 14 pt in their craft, that anybody else starting out fresh is out of luck. They would have such a hard time making it in the already saturated and seriously competitive market, that there is no way they would be able to churn out any product and have any hope of collecting the experimentation tapes that are REQUIRED to be a crafter.
Really I don't see levels having anything to do with turning people off of crafting. It's the immense hurdles that have to be overcome first just to get a foot in the market.
You could always switch servers. Interested in coming to ours?
I always wanted to be MAS Pre CU but post CU i wont get invited to any decent groups unless im 80 i thought SWG was better then this prejudice Bullsh!t but i was wrong. Which is kinda hard when trying to get my level up.
eurno_ebaebro__kyra wrote:i have a quick something to add. (i dont know how to edit.)
even if there arent many crafters, think about supply and demand, the few crafters will be able to demand higher prices for their wares, and all of the other people will think "oh, hes rch, i should try that." we will then get a boom of crafters with high inflation prices, and people will go back to their combat proffession again. this cycle 'should' keep hapening.
I wish that would be the case with SW. But noone except me on my server has the breath to keep up a stocked shop. My prices are outrages for this fact, and I still cannot keep up with demand. I even tried to get several guildies to help me crafting, but all gave up. Even the small parts of work I asked them to do for me were too much for them, and I offered to pay very well. I would have made less profit but would have had more time for myself, that would have been worth it.
But .. I still craft alone
LuckyEMS wrote:
so basically CU killed non combatent.
I always wanted to be MAS Pre CU but post CU i wont get invited to any decent groups unless im 80 i thought SWG was better then this prejudice Bullsh!t but i was wrong. Which is kinda hard when trying to get my level up.
This is the sad part. A single combat mastery template has almost as much damage potential in a level 80 group as a level 80 person. I proved that earlier today when I went krayt hunting with some friends. I outdamaged a few level 80 riflemen with my wonderful level 54 swordsman. However, too many people don't realize this.
Epichistonian wrote:
LuckyEMS wrote:
so basically CU killed non combatent.
I always wanted to be MAS Pre CU but post CU i wont get invited to any decent groups unless im 80 i thought SWG was better then this prejudice Bullsh!t but i was wrong. Which is kinda hard when trying to get my level up.
This is the sad part. A single combat mastery template has almost as much damage potential in a level 80 group as a level 80 person. I proved that earlier today when I went krayt hunting with some friends. I outdamaged a few level 80 riflemen with my wonderful level 54 swordsman. However, too many people don't realize this.
The CL80 should have more tricks in their bag to use to make things even easier than a CL54. With so many Respec professions, i don't think a lot learned all the tricks they can do. But many might also went with defesive tricks so they are not big damagers.
Its more of a matter what specials, offensive, and defensive boxes you go for. But for crafters, it is a bunch of nothings. But old vet crafters have been in this state before and can handle it just fine. Its newer crafters who never had a day without armor, vehicles, and great weapons who are having a harder time adjusting.
But i still hate having my harvies camped. It bothers me asking someone to stop doing what they are doing to kill a few spawns and stand around bored while i do my thing. And no way will a pay someone 10k for 30min (the going rate the last i belive i saw) to do that either. And they call crafters gready. 
Epichistonian wrote:
LuckyEMS wrote:
so basically CU killed non combatent.
I always wanted to be MAS Pre CU but post CU i wont get invited to any decent groups unless im 80 i thought SWG was better then this prejudice Bullsh!t but i was wrong. Which is kinda hard when trying to get my level up.
This is the sad part. A single combat mastery template has almost as much damage potential in a level 80 group as a level 80 person. I proved that earlier today when I went krayt hunting with some friends. I outdamaged a few level 80 riflemen with my wonderful level 54 swordsman. However, too many people don't realize this.
Yeah I've suffered this prejudice the past week. I'm Master Tailor, Master Pistols and BH xx4x cl60, so I can craft for fun and still hunt with friends (I only do custom orders so I dont need any vendor placing skills fortunately). The problems I had getting into groups at Dant MO just cos I wasn't a cl80 were mad. In the end I got into some run by "nice" ppl and they found that the Tailor amongst them was outdamaging quite a few jedi, bh and commandos and getting the aggro for it! By the end of the week I even got into a cl80 only group as the guy running it had been with me earlier in the week and said "Reena's ok, she fought with us yesterday". The point is, anyone with even 1 elite combat mastery only needs to group with a singlecl80 to get rid of the insane combat level difference modifiers and we can be as good, if not better if we have good equipment- and crafters are rich remember 
On the last day of grinding I was set to refill the group so stood there as a cl60 trying to get 2 new players.. not a thing. Popped my jetpack and got 4 tells to join within 30 seconds. I guess the appearance of that was better than expecting anyone to check my mile long bio and realise I'm probably not the newbiethey think my cl makes me!