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Thread: Jedi and Crystals Economy needs a fix on this one.
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Pawlin
Sat Jan 22, 2005 1:40 pm
#27
If you want them to make premium crystals less rare then thats really a Jedi topic.
If you want them to make tuning more likely to give successes then thats a Jedi topic.
If you want the rules of supply and demand to change for your benefit then thats just not gonna happen.
Rare things in high demand will be expensive.
HardwiredXMan
Sun Jan 23, 2005 2:06 am
#28
ana-mo-cara wrote:
The crystal tuneing thing. Serves a purpose. It stops the richest jedi from being the best jedi. Simple as that not all jedi can afford to throw around 50 60 million for a hunk of rock. The tuneing system brings in risk, and I am going to lay down some skinny on you. Every combat in the game has something like this.
You fail to see one big difference between jedi crystals and all other professions in the game....I've already said this many times on these boards.....without a crystal, a jedi can do absolutely nothing in the game but sit and watch everone else. Being that mostly all jedi grind up the lightsaber tree first, virtually no jedi have any other force powers that they can use until they get a crystal for their saber and even if they did, offensiveforce powers suck, that's why noone takes the powers tree anymore. this is a great limitation for those jedi that simply can't afford to buy crystals and having bad luck in looting some themselves. I've killed hundreds of NS' lately and have not gotten a power crystal once not even a poor crystal....always get color crystals....they are fine and allow us to use the base damage on our sabers which is the equivelant of a cdef weapon, but power crystals is what we really need and want.
Krayt tissue until you are a mws, and your makeing someone a krayted T21, and it explodes you have no idea how utterly annoying that is.
Until you see someone critically fail on an acklay weapon you do not know what ticked is.
Until you get a bad slice on a uber weapon or armor you do not know what ticked is.
The above statements don't compare to jedi crystals.....all these examples you list are completely optional for normal weapons....they are enhancements...crystals are not enhancements......."YOU DON"T NEEDTISSUES OR ACKLAY BONESTO MAKE YOUR WEAPON" like jedi "NEED" crystals to make theirs. Imagine if you were a novicefencer and the only way you can gain xp to continue grinding was by usingyourGaderiffi Stick. Now if the resource needed to make you G. Stick were out of your reach becuase of price or rarity, how would you feel not being able to finish grinding Fencer. That's what it's like for a jedi. It's not like crystals are just the ingredient to make a more powerful saber to be at the top echolons of your profession.....its the fact that to even compete at the lowest of levels you still need a power crystal...period, end of story.....
In other words everyone everyone goes through the risk reward system. Except for the loot sellers. They take no risk. This is how it is for everyother class in the game. You take a risk on what you buy, and people are willing to charge 10mil, because other players pay 10mil. So obviously tuneing is not all that harsh. Since some people can afford to take that risk.
Now I agree with you here, everyone goes through risk vs reward....so as long as everything is reasonably fair to all accounts in the game...I have no argument on that...but again it's 10 milionfor a crystal that is mandatory for jedi vs a enhancement item that is optional for non-jedi....
Tuneing in part was an attempt by the devs to negate overpriced crystals. Seeing as the crystal might be a high risk. Sadly some people simply have hundreds of millions of credits to waste and they are jedi. Its not the sellers fault as much as it is the jedi mentality.
This is kind of ironic really....I agree, the devs tried to negate overpriced crystals and jedi swapping crystals so easily by making a tuning process and later make a tuned crystal only useable by the jedi who tuned it. That's another point I missed earlier....a high level jedi that gets a bad tune can't even pass the crystal off to a guild mate that's a low level jedi and just needs any kind of power crystal to grind....because only the jedi that tuned the crystal can use the crystal...it's not tradable once it's tuned....so what does a jedi do with it...well my guild mate takes his bad tunes and made a chandelier out of them for his house. It/s kinda cool really, but when you think about it, it's a 10 million dollar chandelier...LOL Made of millions of dollars worth of poor or unusable tunes ranging for -3/-3 to 0/0.
Zeljko
Sun Jan 23, 2005 5:20 am
#29
People shoud make some good prices for Crystals and Pearls because on Krayt pearls is the same problem as it is on crystals
Is a Premium pearl really worth 8millions? I dont think so. I hunted Krayt dragons my self and they arent tuff, they are easy to kill so why making so bad prices?
Jagged-F3l
Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:09 pm
#31
Kalvin87 wrote:
Either someone needs to fix tuning, or something needs to be done about the outrageous price of crystals in SWG.
Most of the population doesn't even have any USE for them, yet players feel the need to jack up the prices, and force other players to pay a crapload.
Now, I understand this shouldn't have been a problem, but with tuning like it is, it's made the economy really whacked.
Because of poor tuning, players need to buy more crystals, therefore, the players that sell them can jack up the price for individual crystals, because Jedi need more of them so badly.
So, I ask players, PLEASE lower your prices (at least on everything up to Premium) and, please have some decency to sell a player something that they need (and that you most likely can't even use) for a good price.
And I'm asking the devs to do something about it!
Easy solution to this problem--GET RID OF JEDI!
ana-mo-cara
Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:53 pm
#32
Well color crystals are not rare. So its not like a jedi is barred from useing the glowstick. Trust me when it comes to krayt tissues yes I know your angst. I am a smuggler and without a decent krayt tissue I am infor hurt city. The most I qualify for is a dh17 pistol with no armor peirceing at all, and a basic damage type. Result I can empathise I need krayt tissue to give my guns enough kick to survive. Kid you not the world cons red to me. With BR I can usually handle one, but I am really depleted at that point. Haveing to healthshot over and over.
Sadly there is always the issue what you need is usually what you cannot get for yourself. I cannot kill krayt dragons. So I have to look at forking over millions just for a mediocre tissue. I have to fork over millions for skilltapes.
Your in a overpopulated profession. Sorry to tell you that and crystals are serveing as a brake. You are forgetting you have one last option and that is to do something else. Thats you number one choice go away from being a jedi.
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