Business And Economy Archive
Thread: To BleuDestiny Please read about the Ranch
Phaelyn wrote:
Ledao wrote:
This is Radiant's 3rd best Avian meat, ever (by a wide margin over #4). The two better meats have been out of spawn for 8 months and a year, respectively. (#4 has been out of spawn for 4 months, #5 for a year)
So, yes, this is a great spawn.
Strictly speaking based on PE and OQ for Charges and Power, I agree - But *I* as a non Doctor consider Duration to be a very desirable asset - I'd prefer a longer duration as opposed to the highest power available. Since Duration is 60% DR, to ME it's not that great. I'd prefer a 2000pt buff with 3.5 hr duration over a 2400pt buff with 3 hr duration every day of the week. 30 extra minutes can make a big difference in the amount of MOBs I can fight, and how much loot/resources I could gather. But we aren't given THAT option by Buff makers - Again, because the perception that stronger = better. We step into an entirely different arena there, however, so i will bow to your point.
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Just wanted to point out that this is exactly what I do, just not to that extreme. I always sell the meat I hunt to the mid-range buyers. I am tired of paying 15k for buffs, so I am doing my small part to try to help bring the prices down. I wish more hunters did the same.
Phaelyn wrote:
RamondChappell wrote:
Phaelyn wrote:
EdOWar wrote:
<By forcing costs upwards in competing posts, Crafters were setting the price. By starting at an already inflated price via Auction, the Hunter is setting the price.
Not true. That's the market setting the price, and the buyers control the market. Had the min bid been one credit with buyout at 600cpu, it would have still been bought out.
I usually agree with this concept, but seeing a trend *on my own server* dictates my change in beliefs. It's true that if the Buyers hadn't driven the pricing point up to 300 cpu in the first place, these payoffs wouldn't exist. But to say that this is the Market setting the price is incorrect, in my opinion. Setting the Auction at 1cpu min with a600cpu buyout would indeed give buyers complete control. But the inflated OPENING bid is the Hunter setting the market. He is dictatiing that this spawn is worth 300cpu at a minimum. That a buyer agreed with this dictate is unfortunate, as they are now paying what USED to be the high end cost for exceptional resources for an utterly normal one. The higher the market perceives the resources to be worth, the higher the payouts will come to be, and along with it, increases across the board for finished goods.
I despise price control thoughts. I disliked the Ranch idea from the start. But to say that Hunter B will sell a resource for 50cpu if they see Hunter A demanding (and receiving) 600cpu isn't realistic.
I'm sorry to say, that despite your altruism, you are in the minority. Hunters are gathering certain resources based on Forum and in game Spam for the most part - They see the offers, and off they go. And while you are trying through your efforst to bring down the cost of buffs - The reality is that the buff prices aren't going to change that much. If a doctor is buffing for 15k - Most of the time they will continue to use that pricing point no matter the cost they paid for their packs (Only obvious difference is if there is a MAJOR disparity between the power of the buffs they have been using)
Draklaa wrote:
Just wanted to point out that this is exactly what I do, just not to that extreme. I always sell the meat I hunt to the mid-range buyers. I am tired of paying 15k for buffs, so I am doing my small part to try to help bring the prices down. I wish more hunters did the same.
Phaelyn wrote:
I despise price control thoughts. I disliked the Ranch idea from the start. But to say that Hunter B will sell a resource for 50cpu if they see Hunter A demanding (and receiving) 600cpu isn't realistic.
Draklaa wrote:
At one point, on Chilastra, several of the "major" merchants tried to ban together and all pay the same price for a current spawn of nice meat. Of course, someone decided to come to the boards and overshoot their price by several credits, forcing them to drive up their offers if they wanted to get any of the meat.
That's all it takes is one over bidder and the fixing system is ruined, and it will constantly happen. I remember not too long after the game came out (maybe September 03), a major weaponsmith on Gorath offered 5cpu for a polymer. This was unheard of at the time and people constantly chastised him for causing an unnatural increase in the market value of mined resources. You know what though? He got a ton of it. Then other weaponsmiths, realizing that this guy was getting the lion's share of this 1000OQ polymer, started matching his price. Even if 99% band together, it only takes that 1% to start inflating the market.
Avian meat will always go for a premium because, as of now, it is needed for a doctor's key source of income (buff packs) and it is painstakingly difficult to get. Because there will never be a fully altruistic method of thinking on this game without someone wanting to be "the best," the buyers will continue to keep the market on this high.