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Thread: The Galactic Red Scare
TimePalladin
Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:01 pm
#14
just go rifleman, pay some money for a krayt t21 and then go jack everyoine, its easy. swordsmen goes to kill an elder, ajck it, kill nyax use a dxr and jack it.
at elast us swordsmen have to work to get elders hehe, j/k i <3 u riflemen!
at elast us swordsmen have to work to get elders hehe, j/k i <3 u riflemen!
Spinnthrift
Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:12 pm
#15
Just as a counterpoint, when a group of 15 speed capped riflemen all using 600+ damage dxr's (when unpupped)on Nyax can't beat a group of 4 people on Nyax (and these are the same four people who brag on the forums about how they can do this and do it 20+ hrs a day - it creates a little hostility.
When you add in that these 4 people hold the market on Legendary and Exceptional weapons too (all with a score of ADK's) something is amiss.
The game should never have become like this.
Yes - Swordsman and Riflemen can outdamage others... but there are degrees that the game is just not balanced too. That's why I wrote the Nyax thread.
I agree that competition is good, but when there becomes such a one sided slant to the game, that is enforced by greed and pure arrogance, it causes levels of strife not seen before.
When these four people are also all afk... well... I'd like to give them a little something to remember at times. Pity there isn't the same consequence for being a muppet ig as there is irl. *shrugs*
I love competition, I love a challenge. I don't like to be bullied out of a game by ahandful ofarrogant people who's parents abused them when they were children.
WiseBobo
Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:18 pm
#16
Grand Admiral MacArthur.
Missions for him require a 5 minute cutscene of just him speaking, and once you destroy a huge rebel base/take control of it, a big ship lands, and he walks out, claiming it to be God's country.
Missions for him require a 5 minute cutscene of just him speaking, and once you destroy a huge rebel base/take control of it, a big ship lands, and he walks out, claiming it to be God's country.
Asce
Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:55 pm
#17
Your wish is the Dev's command. The Dev's are changing All weapons (and all Armor) to fit in the new CURB. Some people are going to wake up pissed off!
Spinnthrift wrote:
When you add in that these 4 people hold the market on Legendary and Exceptional weapons too (all with a score of ADK's) something is amiss.
pircio
Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:13 am
#18
thats an interesting - but true - standpoint. first off, i'm sick of rifleman and swordsmen getting the bad wrap for stealing kills. i went swordsman because it is, and will remain for awhile, powerful. also it was the most fun i've had mastering a combat prof ever. that being said, if you're gonna complain because this person is killing better than you and stealing the kills, maybe you should rethink your profession, or find some other loot. just cause nyax is getting ganked doesnt mean squat... whatever happened to NS's, Rancors, Jantas, there's more out there. I still say killing stormies is good, i looted a +4 one-handed speed AA off of a stormtrooper, was getting credits and faction at the same time, plus exp, easy kills.
anyways gettin off track here. people spend a lot of time making money to get the good weapons and armor, and spend the time grinding so eventually they can cash out or do whatever, and if you havent invested the same effort you have no room to complain. no one is gonna hand you everything, you have to earn it.
edit: i'm not talking about AFK campers, my feelings on that are completely differnet, and do not belong here
Message Edited by pircio on 02-18-2005 03:14 PM
Sifer2
Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:39 am
#19
Well the reason it sucks is this. They made all these mobs common and spawn fast so that everyone could get a chance at the loot. So you would think people would share right? Hell no more Njax spawns just means more loot for them to hoard an sell for insane prices. What sucks is that if you have a really powerful weapon like an exceptional weapon you can steal looting rights from an entire group. In other words these people own the spawns. They take up residence an basically hang a do not disturb sign on these POI's an its retarded. Why should a person have to change thier entire template an spend millions to buy some absurdly powerful weapon that should'nt even exist just to get a chance at apiece of loot? I mean are the Devs going to have to make Njax spawn all over Correllia just like Krayts do now just to get rid of the campers? I guess so.
JCI
Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:44 am
#20
Wulfcastle wrote:
People didn't really complain about "camping" because of how rare these spawns were to begin with. Premium pearls would sell starting at 6 million and good attachments would fetch huge amounts of credits. The majority of the people didn't have the "know how" or the will to become rich as it was out of their grasp,
not quite true at all, i remember many a time going down to try to take on the acklay but being swamped by jedi refusing to give up their spot because they were jedi and it was their loot. We complained, situations like that is why the developers see fit to do something to rectify the problem they just underestimated the minority of players greed.
Puertoriqueno
Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:57 am
#21
Wulfcastle wrote:
Well, I decided to write an article comparing SWG to some real life situations. I don't think people realize what is going on around them, so I'm going to put this into perspective.. Read on if you wish to see what I mean.
Back in the day (well, a month or so ago?), good loot was actually rare. Krayt spawns were extremely rare and Lord Nyax was running on a 3 hour 40 minute timer. People didn't really complain about "camping" because of how rare these spawns were to begin with. Premium pearls would sell starting at 6 million and good attachments would fetch huge amounts of credits. The majority of the people didn't have the "know how" or the will to become rich as it was out of their grasp, or so they thought. So, mainly the crafters had all the money.. simply because that was one of the very few gauranteed ways to make money.
Recently, big changes have swept through the galaxy. Krayt spawns are now extremely plentiful and Lord Nyax spawns every 20 minutes! Finally, people get a taste of "being rich" and greed sweeps through the galaxy. Some people are able to monopolize certain spawns, or atleast make it seemingly monopolized. People yell for bannings, sling pathetic insults, and, well, simply act like little kids.
People post in all the forums saying that "campers" are ruining their "fun". People are lying to themselves and to you, they simply want the good loot. They are jealous and cry for nerfs or whatnot, simply because they aren't succeeding. They think they should be able to loot that uber attachment even though they haven't the best weapon, armor, attachments, and group members. They think they should receive the rewards even though they didn't do anything to deserve them. They think that simply because they pay $15 a month that they deserve to be on the same playing field as someone who has worked to get where they are. Just because you play the game doesn't gaurantee you SUCCESS or riches.
People who work hard or have planned ahead will succeed. People who think no one should be able to be rich and everyone should be equal no matter how hard someone "tries" are COMMUNISTS.
Do you think you'd have the will to do anything in this game if you didn't have a way to make yourself stand out? be better than someone else? have more money? be able to beat someone? Do you?
Are these people I speak of your friends? Is that person you? We must all ask ourselves these questions and then turn them into your local Inquisitor!
The Red Scare is sweeping through the galaxy, we must stop it before it completely consumes all that is good!
p.s. This post is meant to make you laugh and for you to open your eyes. Communism is all around you! Stop it while you can.
Muahaaha!
There's the whole communist thing again lol.
Puertoriqueno
Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:02 am
#22
Look, there is nothing wrong with loot camping and one-upping. Survival of the fittest. The problem is long duration loot camping, AFK long-duration loot camping in particular. The worst problem is third party program logging.
Obviously someone should be able to sit and farm nice loot fora while....a few hours at least. They should not be able to do it all day every day.
So, we use death squads and camp griefing to get rid of those that want to do this. Drawing in mobs to kill the AFKrs, or putting camps up close to thier spawn site, or overpowering thier kill ratios and letting the dead mobs sit so the timing is all messed up. Lots of things can be done to punish those that like to use greed as thier tool of choice.
Remember, the greedy always find a way to kill the greedy.
Puertoriqueno
Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:05 am
#23
By the way, your posts complaining about those that are whining are based in greed as well. They are greedy, you are greedy. You want the credits, they want the credits.....and the devs dont like you, but they like them. Seems to me it would be best not to boast, or you might find yourselfs nerfed faster than the climb of the U.S. Deficit....just ask those that bragged about making 1 mil an hour solo-grouping.........
Puertoriqueno
Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:57 am
#25
Wulfcastle wrote:
Well, I decided to write an article comparing SWG to some real life situations. I don't think people realize what is going on around them, so I'm going to put this into perspective.. Read on if you wish to see what I mean.
Back in the day (well, a month or so ago?), good loot was actually rare. Krayt spawns were extremely rare and Lord Nyax was running on a 3 hour 40 minute timer. People didn't really complain about "camping" because of how rare these spawns were to begin with. Premium pearls would sell starting at 6 million and good attachments would fetch huge amounts of credits. The majority of the people didn't have the "know how" or the will to become rich as it was out of their grasp, or so they thought. So, mainly the crafters had all the money.. simply because that was one of the very few gauranteed ways to make money.
Recently, big changes have swept through the galaxy. Krayt spawns are now extremely plentiful and Lord Nyax spawns every 20 minutes! Finally, people get a taste of "being rich" and greed sweeps through the galaxy. Some people are able to monopolize certain spawns, or atleast make it seemingly monopolized. People yell for bannings, sling pathetic insults, and, well, simply act like little kids.
People post in all the forums saying that "campers" are ruining their "fun". People are lying to themselves and to you, they simply want the good loot. They are jealous and cry for nerfs or whatnot, simply because they aren't succeeding. They think they should be able to loot that uber attachment even though they haven't the best weapon, armor, attachments, and group members. They think they should receive the rewards even though they didn't do anything to deserve them. They think that simply because they pay $15 a month that they deserve to be on the same playing field as someone who has worked to get where they are. Just because you play the game doesn't gaurantee you SUCCESS or riches.
People who work hard or have planned ahead will succeed. People who think no one should be able to be rich and everyone should be equal no matter how hard someone "tries" are COMMUNISTS.
Do you think you'd have the will to do anything in this game if you didn't have a way to make yourself stand out? be better than someone else? have more money? be able to beat someone? Do you?
Are these people I speak of your friends? Is that person you? We must all ask ourselves these questions and then turn them into your local Inquisitor!
The Red Scare is sweeping through the galaxy, we must stop it before it completely consumes all that is good!
p.s. This post is meant to make you laugh and for you to open your eyes. Communism is all around you! Stop it while you can.
Muahah!
Communists thrice! Wow, this guy is really obsessed with communisim......
Wulfcastle
Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:29 am
#26
I can't believe you guys actually assume people are using third party programs to do their 'dirty work'. A lot of you are simply pathetic and try to make up stuff just to support your cause. Really, just lick your wounds and move on - no need to talk out of your rear because you have nothing better to say.