Business And Economy Archive
Thread: Docs have gotten greedy or what ?
DigitalGuardian
Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:44 pm
#14
You know, there other things to being a master doc other than buffing. It's descerning to see somone forsake a profession so easily like that.
SmugglinZane
Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:42 pm
#15
Along those lines, what I find funny is people have no problem paying for a temporary stat increase than they do paying for a permanent weapons stat increase. I refuse to drop my slicing prices, but it always makes me chuckle when someone will pay 10k for a buff, a temporary increase, but not for a slice, a permanent increase.
Qwad
Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:47 pm
#16
PyroVespin wrote:being a former master doctor... i dont really think 15-20k is too much to sit there for 5 hours listening to people whing about how long its taking, and begging to be next, and complaining to you that its taking too long.... i quit master doctor just because people were rude... if u zone into a starport wearing your tag u get mobbed and people cuss at u if u say no.... .. im sorry im ok with the higher price... just because i know about the jerk factor
I've never seen anyone complain while I was waiting in line for a doc buff, AND I've never seen anyone complain even while *I* was a master doc. Though I do totally understand the part about being harassed, but there is a simple fix, and it's to change your title, or don't make your character searchable. When I was master doctor I usually only charged about 11-13k for my buffs, and I'd barely break even, that's because I'd do alot of free buffing for my guild and such. On Gorath now-a-days all I ever see is buffs for 15-18K, rarely below that, and yes, I do think they are being greedy. Some docs may claim that the reason they charge more for buffs is because they have to sit there and do it, using their time. To that I ask, do you go into work every day, and ask your boss for more money, because you have to do your job? No. You do your job, and take what you are given.
Puertoriqueno
Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:26 am
#17
I can tell you why docs buff for that price.....actually two reasons.....difficulty in getting good buff sets lately and the lack of resources. That, and the ability to make much more running missions instead of buffs sent most of the doctors I know into "only buff for guild" mode. All of the doctors I know from the old days all stopped giving public buffs. Only the fast food buffers buff now. There just isnt enough incentive to public buff anymore. Too many people complain about the prices, no matter what you set them at.
Our Doctor sold buffs at 10k that were over 2500 for 3 hours, and he got one too many complaints about his price. I guess people expected to pay 5 to 8k. He gave up.
PyroVespin
Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:06 am
#18
being a former master doctor... i dont really think 15-20k is too much to sit there for 5 hours listening to people whing about how long its taking, and begging to be next, and complaining to you that its taking too long.... i quit master doctor just because people were rude... if u zone into a starport wearing your tag u get mobbed and people cuss at u if u say no.... .. im sorry im ok with the higher price... just because i know about the jerk factor
PyroVespin
ExcaliburCH
Thu Feb 10, 2005 5:19 am
#19
On Bria the usual price is around 15k. I never saw one higher than that. But there are also buffs with 10k and a little over it. But hey.. I ask friendly if I can bargain with the doc. In 98% they agree and we can set a good price which both of us are happy with.
But I never do the bargaining in public. I always use privat tells for that. And I never tell other people which doc made a special or lower price for me.
I mean, hey.. bargaining is very funny and it raises the interaction between player. Bargaining makes even more fun, than just sell or buy stuff for a mentioned price. Its just like in real life.
cheers
Exi
But I never do the bargaining in public. I always use privat tells for that. And I never tell other people which doc made a special or lower price for me.
I mean, hey.. bargaining is very funny and it raises the interaction between player. Bargaining makes even more fun, than just sell or buy stuff for a mentioned price. Its just like in real life.
cheers
Exi
Zephisto
Thu Feb 10, 2005 5:30 am
#20
Ok, let's put this another way. Rather than pointing at the Docs and saying they're greedy, view it as market demand. Why charge 10k for something you can get 15k for. If you were a master doc and someone was prepared to pay 15k for a buff, are you saying you wouldn't sell them for 15k?? As for the original poster, I sympathise with your predicament, but if they don't want your superb buff packs, that's their loss. The Galaxy Trade Forum should get you a good price
More attention should be focused on those who loot high-end items and then sell them for many millions in my opinion. It's a simple matter that those that can afford the good stuff, make more money. Classic richplayerget richer by outpricing the poorer players....
DrElJefeMD
Thu Feb 10, 2005 5:31 am
#21
Easy Solution:
If you are a master doc, craft your own buffs
If you are not a master doc. Become a master doc and craft your own buffs.
Then you will never have to worry about buff prices again.
My first character was all combat. I got tired of waiting in coro buff lines for up to an hour to get a buff so I created another account and went master doc. I craft all my own buffs now (915 power 12352 duration and 31 charges on average). My only cost outside of power and maintenance on my harvestor farmsis the extra meat i buy to store from some scouts and rangers I know (which at 150 to 250 cpu gets very expensive). I now have 4 accounts on the same server and I never wait for a buff and don't worry about the cost.
See how easy that was.
Dr. ElJefe MD
In game Eljefe
Xeovar
Thu Feb 10, 2005 5:37 am
#22
5 mil for 25 sets of buffpacks means 33k per pack. Its a reasonable price for that high quality of pack. I think you should place vendors with the packs and advertise on trade forums, or just sell them on forums. Last time packs with that stats were available, they went for 10-15% more then that and sold out quickly
I know a few docs that will happily pay your price for those stats, altho they are probably not the ones doing public buffs - as most of public buff docs look only for profit so use cheap packs and keep the price as high as people are willing to pay.
As far as the inflation goes, riddle me this:
Armors have dropped in price by 70-80% over last 1.5 year while getting much better in quality, and hide prices as high as meat ones.
Weapons are same price as long time ago or even lower
Yet doc buffs in starports have risen from 6-9k to 10-15k......
Edit: math
I know a few docs that will happily pay your price for those stats, altho they are probably not the ones doing public buffs - as most of public buff docs look only for profit so use cheap packs and keep the price as high as people are willing to pay.
As far as the inflation goes, riddle me this:
Armors have dropped in price by 70-80% over last 1.5 year while getting much better in quality, and hide prices as high as meat ones.
Weapons are same price as long time ago or even lower
Yet doc buffs in starports have risen from 6-9k to 10-15k......
Edit: math
Message Edited by Xeovar on 02-10-2005 02:07 PM
Aidemun
Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:26 am
#23
I'm not sure how it went on other server but here's what happened in eclipse. When the solo group nerf was approaching buffs suddently went from 10k to 15k. We saw this as docs trying to get some extra money before the economy droped. Well, surprise surprise. The solo group nerf didn't hit the economy as hard as everyone thought it would. Prices have for all craft goods have stayed the same as they were before the nerf except doc buffs have remained at 15k as opposed to the previous standard of 10k. Pisses me off really.
OlisJ
Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:49 pm
#24
I think the 30K resource deeds will make a huge impact on buff pack prices. The prices will probably start dropping. The current pricing may be a first sign of it.
Puertoriqueno
Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:54 pm
#25
Yes that would do it. If more docs made their own buffs, or if thier resources were more common, prices would definitely drop.