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Can anyone explain some more differences between the swordsman and fencer? I know that one uses one hand weapons and the other uses 2 hand weapons. Are most swords one hand or 2 hand or can they be used for both? I am just looking for some more information.

Thanks.

Weaponwise: I haven't spent too much time comparing the two (I'm polearm) but it seems that 2h meleers have access to vibro axes in addition to two-handed swords, the curved and straight varieties. The 1h meleers, fencers and the like, get certs for vibroblades, one-handed curved swords and plain 1h swords.

I read somewhere about a warhammer cert, but I can't confirm it. Though, I'd imagine it would be a 2h cert.

They both seem to be pretty much the same profession, just single vs double. Does anyone know if there is an advantage to either that would push someone whos on the fence (no pun intended) either way? Do Fencers suffer the -negative modifier to hit too?

the - number thing applies to all melee as far as i know.

As it stands right now, fencers can get weapons that do just as much dmg as ours, and they are slightly faster as well. They also get more weapon speed and accuracy, as well and toughness/defence/resists. I saw a chart somewhere and they get like 80 more points in skills than we do. they will also be geting a damage boost on specials in the upcoming patch.

That said

I think that once we get our loving (mostly balancing and improvements, as we ARENT a broken class) I think we will be totally viable. The best 2h curveds out there meet or beat fencer DPS and we get more powerful specials, as well as the ability to target mind, most PCs weakest link.

Fencer should win nearly everytime unless to be brutley honest the fencer sucks or the swordsman has an uber elite template. Its quite simple swordsman cant hit you and you cant miss them. A good tactic is to stick a blind and intimidate then shimm shiak and spam scatter shiak. This tactic should beat swordsman 95% of the time.

I'm a Master Swordsman/Master Brawler and I don't see what you mean by some things, Guddy. First off, what do you do if you as a fencer get a warcry 2 on you? You either stand there taking hits or start to run. Both are wrong when you get hit by a bleed a second after the warcry. The first thing you do when fighting a fencer is of course to use intimidate before they reach you. That eliminates your dodge as far as I have noticed. Last fencers I met didn't last long. Same goes for TKMs...

Actually i have taken up swordsmen for a little something extra to do. A power hammer can easily do 1000 pvp damage to mind with head hit 3. Problem is you gotta hit with it. Againist a fencer thats no easy trick. Scatter hit 2 is a fencer best move againist secondary defense mods since it bypasses. Swordsmen has no equilevent move. Their best move s mind hit 2 which will cripple an enemy but it wont kill them, they still gotta hope that one of their attacks get through to the mind pool. One one a pure swordsmen(non master brawler)going to have hard time againist a fencer but if the luck goes his way the fencer wont see what went wrong. A master brawler / master swordsmen has a couple more options but againist a master fencer/master brawler its going to be close but i still say the fencer has the odds on his side. A swordsmen properly shines in bigger pvp engagments as his weakness are harder to single out and his massive blows will take people out left and right.

If a fencer uses warcry2 its simple i fight dirty anyway you say hits a bleed HIT! is the crucial word here canu hit the person? Well now you can mind bleed me yes but then you think what the hell that guy has 4000 mind. Then before you know whats happened 20 seconds gone uve got a warcry on you uve been knockdowned and your dead.