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Thread: st gabe you need to take this to the devs why can ranged profs use intimidate/warcry?

angristVong
Sat Feb 07, 2004 5:12 am
#1

it seems like the devs have said that defense stacking is NOT ok.


so by that logic you only get the defenses and skills of the weapon equiped and that related profession.


so why can a master riflemen use a brawler skill for defense?


not to mention screw up our best anti-kiting measure.


this makes no sense and show a severe imbalance in game play - not to mention a disregard for the brawler community.


hopefully this is also being nerfed along with defense stacking.

if not i hope you see the problem and will take it to the devs.


or should brawlers be able to hurl their swords/batons/vks/pikes for it to only come right back to them in a ranged like fashion?
xUnkarNokataki
Sat Feb 07, 2004 6:38 am
#2

Gaffyn is no longer the brawler correspondent, and I hope I'll be the new correspondent


Anyways, you are exactly right and I will get it to the attention of a dev if I'm correspondent. Warcry is a useful special, available to Brawlers. Riflemen are already overpowered IMO so if they can use Warcry it's unbareable.


I'll try to test this thing on TestCenter see if it works like you said. I'll be back !



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Stormbilly
Sat Feb 07, 2004 6:46 am
#3

This is ridiculous! SWG is a skill based system, not a class based system. The nice part about it is the ability to mix and match your skills to find something you like. There is absolutely nothing wrong with using warcry or intimidate as a ranged user. Just like there's nothing wrong with using panic shot and low blow as a brawler type. This is not overpowered, so stop crying nerf. If you think it's so great, then get it yourself and stop posting nerf!
huan_the_destroyer
Sat Feb 07, 2004 8:23 am
#4

stormbilly - the point is if youre a brawler and you want to use low blow you have to have a pistol in your hand.


then you arent a brawler anymore



you can just slam a button from lowblow and it magically happen as you hold a gaffi stick.


skill base ...yes.


using skills that you should only be able to use with a melee weapon......no.



there is a huge diffrence here.





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KeseeroGuan
Sat Feb 07, 2004 9:29 am
#5

Since when have you needed a melee weapon, or lack thereof for TKA, to scream at someone or look intimidating?



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xUnkarNokataki
Sat Feb 07, 2004 9:47 am
#6

I think the problem needs to be view from another way. If this can make a too much powerful combo it needs to be balanced. If I'd follow you Keseero I could say that I don't need a rifle to head shot a NPC with my pistol... so I think it's a balancing issue.


But of course if a Rifleman wants to mix his profession with Master Brawler that's ok but if he becomes almost untouchable it's different. You see what I mean?





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xUnkarNokataki
Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:03 am
#7

Oh btw I don't want to defend one's arguments but this needs to be looked at. I really don't know what to think of it in fact. If TC goes up I'll see if there is really a problem, or not.


Stay tuned



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Stormbilly
Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:36 am
#8

since when do you need a specific weapon in hand to give out a scary warcry? It is a brawler skill, yes, but there is no reason why a ranged person should not be able to use it. Same with intimidate. You should be able to intimidate with any weapon. You can looknasty and intimidate someonewith a rifle or a sword. Han solo intimidated a whole squad of STs while holding a carbine if I remember correctly.(yes I know you can't always compare the movies, but it illustrates my point)



And for the record, I'm NOT a ranged user. I'm strictly a brawler template.

xUnkarNokataki
Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:47 am
#9

Storm, as I wrote above, I could fire in the head of a NPC without having any Rifles skills if I follow you.


But anyways that's not really the matter. I guess this is not an issue. At the cost of 15 Skill Points it gives a useful move, not really overpowered. If an ennemy comes to close to the Rifleman, he can Warcry, helping him to flee for example. And it doesn't work every time.


So I'd say that there's no real problems with this. I'd prefer seeing Pikemen a bit more accurate





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zenixoda
Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:11 pm
#10

man this is a stupid cry for nerf



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ScoerFusou
Sat Feb 07, 2004 3:28 pm
#11

Why shouldn't you be able to intimidate and warcry if you pay for the skills? For those of you who say you should need the weapon equiped...why? Intimidate is a vocal or visual thing as is warcry or even taunt. Hell, even before i picked up brawler i was able to Intimidate and Taunt, in the form of Rescue, as a wookiee Rifleman/Ranger. Should I have to be required to be a melee wookieeto use those skills since they are forms of Brawler skills. I dont think so.



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Srednii
Sat Feb 07, 2004 3:36 pm
#12

commando's need unarmed 4 don't they? if you take away their ability to use warcry/intim then you turn the unarmed 4 req into a huge lump of totally wasted skill points.


Do you really want to start the nerf talk? What goes around comes around, and the nerf whiners will be after the 20m lunge next, or lunge2's knockdown. Or warcry2's 20 second delay.





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Vodo-Kai
Sat Feb 07, 2004 4:48 pm
#13

If they make this a brawler only skill they better give those animals that can intimidate some melee weapons or martial arts skills.



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