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Thread: /centerOfBeing ...

Pirita
Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:41 pm
#1

Can anyone tell me what is this skill or move all about, I have been at work all day and I have not been able to check the game.


Thanks for any info on this...

Lomar4976
Fri Nov 14, 2003 5:08 am
#2

Its supposed to provide a boost to your melee defence skills meaning that your opponent misses more.



However, if youre a swordsman, fencer or pikeman (or their lower level brawler equivalents) you do OK since they actually have skills to modify (dodge, counterattack etc) TKAs and unarmed don't get any bonuses since they don't have any skill mods except for unarmed toughness... and that's a completely different thing (damage reduction rather than hit prevention)




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DaOpa
Fri Nov 14, 2003 7:55 am
#3

does it say in the skills mobs what it ups ? and how much melee def it gives?



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Sinane
Sat Nov 15, 2003 2:06 am
#4

It costs a **edit**load of HAM (well for me it does) and it isn't that great.


I thought it was suppose to improve our "tanking abilities?" I have yet to experience this.


As it is, pets will always be the tanks. Sad, really.




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Fleshlump
Sat Nov 15, 2003 5:38 am
#5

Actually a master fencer using Center of Being is almost never hit. Add the CoB bonuses on top of their dodging, and they move through enemy gunfire like nothing is going on.



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_Rage
Sat Nov 15, 2003 5:46 am
#6






Lomar4976 wrote:

TKAs and unarmed don't get any bonuses since they don't have any skill mods except for unarmed toughness... and that's a completely different thing (damage reduction rather than hit prevention)





That's false. Unarmed IV for example gives Melee Defence bonus. Read more carefully..........
Raphayl
Sun Nov 16, 2003 4:13 pm
#7

Center of Being has nothing to do with Melee Defense. They are checked at completely different levels of the "to hit" caculation. But it does have to do with defense during combat... so I know what you were refering to.


*For 2handed/Swordsmen: CoB is a boost to CounterAttack.


*For Polearm/Pikemen: CoB is a boost to Block.


*For 1handed/Fencers: CoB is a boost to Dodge.


CounterAttack, Block, and Dodge are all more of less the same thing in SWG. Each has a bit of an advantage vs. different attack types, but all give a second chanceat avoiding damage if the normal "to hit" calculation determined through Melee/Ranged Defense and Accuracy mods determines a hit.


*For Unarmed/Teras Kasi: CoB is a boost to Defense Acuity. This is new to SWG. They used to have an equal chance to Block, CounterAttack, or Dodge. This gave the game engine 3 different things to juggle. This was replaced byDefense Acuity. Now there isonlyone mod to determine whether or not it successfully goes of, then it randomly manifests as a Dodge, CounterAttack, or Block.


CoB modifiers come in two flavors: Duration and Efficacy.Duration is just what you'd think it was. The higher th Duration, the longer the effect will be in place. This modifer gives +1 second for every +1 Duration. Efficacy is a fancy word for effectiveness, and determines the amount of boost to provide to it's root defensive manuever. Data for the relative boost is not yet complete, but at this time +100 Efficacy seems to double the supported defensive manuever.

Khalaermol
Sun Nov 16, 2003 6:06 pm
#8






Sinane wrote:

It costs a **edit**load of HAM (well for me it does) and it isn't that great.


I thought it was suppose to improve our "tanking abilities?" I have yet to experience this.


As it is, pets will always be the tanks. Sad, really.







False.


Center of being improves GREATLY as you level up brawler and any of the defense trees of an elite brawler profession.


But hey, you're doing a great job of keeping my uberness on the down low.




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JediForceGuy
Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:25 am
#9

Regardless it's new to the game it's going to be balanced soon enough. I personally think it should last a bit longer... perhaps have a /centerofBeing2 for master brawlers or something?



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Kjeld1
Mon Nov 17, 2003 2:59 am
#10

> It costs a **edit**load of HAM (well for me it does) and it isn't that great.



The problem with CoB is that it is too short and weak to be worth the cost until you can get some serious level in the "defensive" skill of your advanced profession tree. When you are only a brawler, it does more harm than good. When you are a master fencer, it is a fantastic ability, more than well worth the cost.

aquaboy1976
Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:41 am
#11

do you need to get master brawler to use COB?




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mrun21
Mon Nov 17, 2003 12:18 pm
#12

I am a 2343 brawler and as it stands now I have not noticed any difference with CoB being activated, except for a hefty whack to my own HAM. While I have no doubts that it is probably a very effective measure down the road. I would hazard to say that it is not worth it in the novice brawler levels.


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Forgery
Tue Nov 18, 2003 1:00 am
#13

FYI COB appears to be broken for unarmed/TKA. Many people have done tests and seen no visible improvement in defense when using it. Check out their forums for more info.
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