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Thread: Unarmed brawler is a total joke

bigritchie
Mon Jul 14, 2003 7:10 pm
#1

Ok, I started SWG as a unarmed brawler. I thought this would be great especially with the cool Teras Kia. I am a master unarmed brawler and it is a total joke.


I had to go to pistols to lure enemies in, and then attack them unarmed. But then it dawned on me that the second level of pistol was better than master unarmed. **edit** is up with this?


I have had to take levels in artisan, scout, and medic just to keep myself functioning.


I even quit SWG for about a week hopeing that the bralwer would be fixed. I started playing the diablo 1.10 beta (wich is very fun for you d2 players).


Finally my brother talked me into coming back and making marksmen. It is a total joke that marksmen can run around doing 400+ points at low levels, killing things with one shot, while a master brawler can do a whopping 200 damage with vibro knuckles. And then you cant even do your skills because it kills your ham bars.


I even tried the armour out, and wound up selling all my armour at the bazaar, because once again it kills you faster than the monsters.


I will probably wind up dropping brawler, as i have already put my basic combat exp into the marksmen. This is really sad , the unarmed brawler should be a great class to play, but it is not, it is a total joke. IF anyone here is thinking of doing unarmed brawler don't. Just grab you a pistol.


This has been on the forums for a while, and SWG team has still done nothing about the unarmed brawler. We are paying 15 dollars a month also. Fix this class.


The connections are horrible and 1/2 the time the missions don't work if you log out or if the missions show up at all. I think 15 bucks is alot to ask per month will all the problems and all the totally unbalanced classes like the brawler.


This is a great game, and has the potential to be even greater fix it!

MrRidgway
Mon Jul 14, 2003 7:36 pm
#2

I happen to agree with you. Well, mostly.

Using Vibro Knucks, armor, and any other objects while using special attacks hurts you more then fighting the mobs, this is the worst thing that could happen to any skill. This should be fixed ASAP, as now I am forced just to use my vibro knucks with normal attack, with no armor, and hope that I can kill 10,000+ spiders to get to Teras Kasi Novice.

What a laugh, when half the items a combat character is able to use hurt him more then the mobs he's fighting, that's just **edit**ing pathetic.

I disagree with you, when you say drop TKA and unarmed, because if we do drop it, it will most likily stay almost exactly the same. This may seem like screwed up logic, but hear me out. Right now, the devs have more problems spewing out there ass they don't know what to do. The server "LOADING" problem just to name one, the server "CONNECTING" problem to name another. You see, if there are more people playing TKA, then there are more people to complain about how **edit**y it is. When things finally start to settle down with all these **edit**ing problems, the devs will hear our plea and hopefully fix it.
Glachum
Mon Jul 14, 2003 7:51 pm
#3

The Teras Kasi wants no whiners in there order. There's no easy way. Don't like it? Then get a gun, and kite your way to master,that's fine.Some of us don't like to kite things andnone of uswant or need you dragging the name of the Teras Kasi through the mud because it's too hard for you.
bigritchie
Mon Jul 14, 2003 8:46 pm
#4

Lol , I am already a master brawler and if you wanna take a tough guy idiot approach to a broken class go right ahead. That was just ignorant to say. I thought I had left immature kids when ii left bnet. The class is broken and needs to be fixed.


Saying stuff like that makes you look like a geek and doesn't help anything

WookieIsshe
Mon Jul 14, 2003 9:18 pm
#5






bigritchie wrote:

Lol , I am already a master brawler and if you wanna take a tough guy idiot approach to a broken class go right ahead. That was just ignorant to say. I thought I had left immature kids when ii left bnet. The class is broken and needs to be fixed.


Saying stuff like that makes you look like a geek and doesn't help anything







Broken class, your kidding me right. I have close to a master marksman on chilastra and I am working on master unarmed right now on another server. For my marksman with his pistoleer skill I have yet to do near 400 damage even with a special. Who are you kidding?


I am having an easier time killing stuff being a brawler then I ever did with my pistol guy. If fact I am having so much fun I haven't played my marksman in over a week.




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Gann_SWG
Mon Jul 14, 2003 9:32 pm
#6

I've found brawler to be far from broken actually. I'm doing insane damage in the unarmed tree using a good set of vibroknucklers. My xp in unarmed is coming much faster than my pistol skill actually. I love running into a group of white mobs and just laying out with my fists and hands in every direction. Watch the bodies fall. At expert unarmed, i can take out single yellow mobs fairly handily.


Seriously tho, if you havent already, find a good weaponcrafter and get a good weapon for your skill tree. It makes every difference.

Glachum
Mon Jul 14, 2003 9:35 pm
#7

Ok, I'll agree to a few facts:


1. When MOBs are running away from you, they shouldn't be able to hit you as well...


2. Using Berzerk shouldn't nearly incap you, as well as all the other skills...


3. Damage to only one HAM pool would help immensely, or targetable pools like the ranged users.



But, to say that "Unarmed Brawler is a total joke" is ridiculous and just makes you out to be another whiner. If you actually had some constructive criticism, there is already a post entitled "fix the brawlers!" or something to that effect.

Caedmon78
Tue Jul 15, 2003 4:35 am
#8

I started the game out as a brawler, and have yet to turn back and never will. I want Teras Kasi! I picked up marksman (using pistol and carbine), medic and scout. I run missions solo all the time, with little or no problem going unarmed the entire time, but having the marksman does make it easier for those enimies that consistently run away from me. I kill most things in one or two hits with my vibros on, topping off around 220 damage for now. I can't take on reds by myself, but that is ok. I like unarmed more than marksman, because it is more challenging and come one anyone can shoot a gun



Caedmon Otasio - Zabrak



Teras Kasi Master
Heavy Swordsman 1,1,1,3
Medic 4,3,4,0
Gandark
Tue Jul 15, 2003 10:56 am
#9

i am only 2 levels into unarmed using vibro knucklers and i do 140-175 damage (without special skills) and 200-280 damage with my unarmed hit 1.


I kick butt as unarmed my speed is faster the mobs are one and 2 hit kills for blues and whites. I am not sure why you are not doing good damage as a UA sorry.






Arit VanSchlek

Arit Mining Company
Coronet, Correlis (Gorath Galaxy)
DToxWeaponsInc
Tue Jul 15, 2003 11:52 am
#10

"3. Damage to only one HAM pool would help immensely, or targetable pools like the ranged users."



Brawlers already have this. One Handed weapons hit Health, Two Handed hit Mind, and Polearms hit Action.


Unarmed gets nothing at Brawler level. Why?



Have you seen the Teras Kasi tree? Not only can Teras Kasi focus on 1 pool...THEY CAN ATTACK ALL 3!!!! Grouped with Carbineers? Smack Action. Grouped with Riflemen? Go after Mind. Grouped with Pistoleers? Kill Health.



Folks, don't complain til you look up the tree at what you're getting. The Teras Kasi Artist owns like crazy. It is probably the only profession that can do serious damage to any pool at any time they choose.



Even if you're not going TKA, Unarmed Brawling still gives some nice specials that shouldn't be discounted. And for those who find the specials costs on a Vibro Knuckler daunting, try actually puttign in some work and finding a good Weaponsmith who will Experiment on lower costs for you.






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DToxWeaponsInc
Tue Jul 15, 2003 1:20 pm
#11

What you fail to realize is the value of combining Ranged attacks with Melee attacks. You want to increase your TKA effectiveness by 10x? Pick up a little Marksman.



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Wookinpanub
Tue Jul 15, 2003 2:50 pm
#12

Better yet...get in a group with both ranged and melee. I guarantee the melee people will do more damage than the ranged people. Yes, they'll take more damage. That's a no-brainer when you're in a creature's face.



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Kenshin-dono
Tue Jul 15, 2003 3:19 pm
#13

bitching about dmg from unarmed is not right, bitching about the brawler class in general however, is. Your unarmed, you swing the fastest out of all of us and dont need to worry about weapons (aside from v knuckles) ... you guys want to do dmg on the lvl of or more so than the weapon branches? get real


brawlers in general just need boosted defense and lower ham costs. they're 2 very simple fixes that would make us a viable class


^_^x KD

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