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Thread: Fencer or Swordsman?

MutantSquirrel
Tue Feb 10, 2004 4:54 am
#40

I am currently 4243 Fencer and 0303 Swordsman. I can already solo many things with Swordsman that I cannot as Fencer. The reason is as you said ... Swordsman does ALOT more damage. With 2h mindHit2 I can start a mind bleed that drains over 1500 per tick, and have done over 3k damage with 2h headHit3 which targets the mind pool by using my unsliced power hammer.


However, the disadvantages of Swordsman are pretty bad as well. First of all, the power hammer is very powerful, but very slow and inaccurate (and has huge HAM costs). With the +15 accuracy that 0002 gives me, I still start with a to-hit-bonus of -46 (for my 2h curved sword, it's -6). I probably hit 1 out of 2 swings with my hammer, and 2 out of 3 with my 2h curved sword.


I don't think that I would be able to do as much as I can right now with swordsman if it wasn't for the defense mods in fencer. Fencer is much faster, more accurate, but doesn't do near as much damage. This is why I think these two professions are pretty much balanced. For PVE, I've noticed that I am more effective using Swordsman against critters, and more effective against NPC's using Fencer.


Hope that clears up a few things for you. Lemme know if you have any more questions.






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Lonegunman31
Tue Feb 10, 2004 4:59 am
#41

i think my build is very good for PVP i get the fencers def plus the TK def along with fencer dodge and i can shell out TKM damage. No creature stands a chance. Not to mention the bleed. in PVE i get hit about once out of every 10 swings. and im a wookie !



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thegame1981
Wed Feb 11, 2004 1:00 am
#42

One thing i forgot to mention is im a master smuggler and will keep it, and im doing master brawler, just didnt know to pair that with swordsman or fencer.


Thanks for all the info.
RirdoTheRodian
Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:46 pm
#43

Having been both, (and TKA and Pikeman for that matter:smileyvery-happy I honestly prefer Swordsman to them all. I love Fencer, it's a great porfession... for PvP. Fencer's are absolutly attrocious in PvE their one saving grace is Dodge. Pikeman is a great profession for both PvP and PvE it's just very expensive to make it good in PvP. Teras Kasi are easily my least favorite of the Brawlers, the only line I still have is Meditate (which is the best line in the game btw) they are the least fun to play of them all. Sure your strong but all you do in PvE & PvP is KD/Dizzy and spam Unarmed Hit 3, and for me at least it got old fast. I love Swordsman though, the fact that I can kill pretty much anything in the game solo is awesome to me. My biggest problem with it, is that it suffers in PvP due to the lack of KD/Dizzy really though it all comes down to PvE or PvP. Either way though, if you pick up TKA I'd 100% keep Swordsman because TKA is all you need for 90% of PvP, and once you land that Dizzy/KD just switch to the Power Hamer it tears through Composite just fine, and in some cases better than the Stun Baton because of all the Stun Layered Composite out there and the Stun Baton's AP0 hurts. Good luck!
razorblazor99
Wed Mar 31, 2004 6:45 am
#44

I did swordsman for a holo and loved it in PVE. In pvp it wasn't so great. Any good pvper I ran acrossed blinded me right away, which made me usless all together. I can do well in both PVE and PVP with fencer. You won't be outdamaging any krayts or anything, but you can go toe to toe with a lot of the harder enimies in the game with fencer. I would say go fencer and spend you time and money getting aclay bones and try for 35% dmg slices.



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muzzyman81
Sat Apr 10, 2004 5:15 pm
#45

In your opinion which is better?



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Kurtisclip
Sat Apr 10, 2004 5:27 pm
#46

For PVE, Swordsman > Fencer


For PVP, Fencer > Swordsman



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DarthKirby001
Sat Apr 10, 2004 6:02 pm
#47

^ What he said



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MikeHeXt
Sat Apr 10, 2004 6:04 pm
#48

Thanks, you solved this one for me.



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Kleyan
Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:30 am
#49

Okay, I've been mulling it over and I can't decide which I'd rather do, so I'd like some recommendations.


Which is better PvE, a Master Swordsman, or a Master Fencer, or are they comperable? How about PvP?


Also, are the vibroblade and the curved sword the only actual swords these guys get? I mean, is it still feasable to not have to use a stun baton or a power hammer unless on enemies "weak" to it's damage?


What do you guys think? I'm having trouble deciding. So far the only thing swaying me either way is Fencer has MUCH cooler titles.


Let me know!
Westpark
Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:39 am
#50

well.. do what most people do, get master 2handed for the damage, and get fencer's defenses.. Do not expect to do a lot of damage as a fencer, we have kinetic and stun damage, only one weapon is ap1 and it sucks... Master Swordsmen > Blademaster unfortantely for pvp and pve because of their ap2 weapons and different types of damage.. The HAM costs for the stun baton is too high, its almost as bad as the riflemen specials...



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sanca
Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:56 am
#51

Well i recently became a master of both Fencer and Swordsman. I haven't pvp'ed much yet, but ive had a few duels and I prefer using fencer in pvp because with centre of being on and dodge food and you putting state effects on the opponent you can dodge most attacks and the stun baton works fine as long as they dont have stun layered comp - which i find not everyone has yet even though the resources spawned. Fencer is a great tank in pve but obviously swordsman is the way to go if you are pve'ing mostly and want to do damage up the ying yang.

With both profs, i have nice melee defense and ranged defense and can hold my own very well. Though as i said I haven't tested this template extensively (not really played around with swordsman pvp wise apart from 1 duel) and im going for master brawler to add to it soon.







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Donmeka
Sun Apr 18, 2004 11:13 am
#52


what about a master TKA/fencer/swordsman? i was thinking of doing that or tka/rifleman/sum fencer trees

Message Edited by Donmeka on 04-18-2004 11:18 AM



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