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Thread: PROPOSING A NEW PROFESSION

Kaynab
Thu Mar 11, 2004 5:01 am
#27

By definition whips are one handed and hence belong to one-hand (otherwise known as Fencer). We're trying to get new weapons and a whip is the most likely.

My preferred one is the cryo whip (think weapon of the rodians). When it struck it gave a charge of cold. Would be nice to have a cold damage weapon .

Message Edited by Kaynab on 03-11-2004 04:06 AM



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KylaEri
Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:24 pm
#28

what is up with the whip suggestion? Lady of the Sith...blah blah blah...sorry i think whips are lame. Maybe we should have a profession that can wield a bladed shovel or pitchfork?
MasterOfCombat
Thu Mar 11, 2004 9:13 pm
#29






KylaEri wrote:
what is up with the whip suggestion? Lady of the Sith...blah blah blah...sorry i think whips are lame. Maybe we should have a profession that can wield a bladed shovel or pitchfork?





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wussynip
Wed Mar 17, 2004 6:02 am
#30

I've discussed this over with other people who do video games and right now form what it seems like, whips may never be introduced. They think devs have tried it and done it repeatedly over an dover again. And, when you do whips from Star Wars, they will not be able to do it graphic wise and would not look relaisitic all games which have used whips i poorly made and looks totally unrealistic let's hope and pray technology will become more developed that one day the whips will be in the game which was used in the Satr Wars Univers. As for the electrowhip it will be a Master only type electricity range 70m effectiveviness 40m Damage 900-4000. Remember this whip beat Luke down and knocked him out for a over a day. This is the type of weapon which would be a perfect hybrid profession.



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RaptosKhywalker
Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:31 am
#31




Do you actually play this game?


You may have noticed the Devs rebalance of classes is generallyto weaken them and make them less effective. If you took your head out of your comic books (or where ever else you have stuck it) you may have also noticed they have just broken Warcry oryou may even have noticed they have put Hard Caps on defenses...And after all this you are proposing to introduce a weapon/profession that has an effective range 6mtrs over that of a Rifle and 50mtrs over that of any current Melee attack. A weapon that will Do 900 to 4k in damage. Well that minimum damage would kill me in one hit, unbuffed...Take into account my Onehanded Toughness and I should have about 200 health from the first hit alone, lets hope it wasn't a special or I'd just be a red smear on the floor. Ok lets assume that is PvE damage, so PvP damage is now in 200-1000 range...Riiight.


No, we don't remember the Whip that beat Luke down because no one else here has read those comics. What we do remember is the last person Luke beat in a fight (ignoring all you comic books, novels and where ever else you dig up stories from) wasa big asthmaticguy in a black suit called Vader...Considering how powerful he was meant to be do you really think this sort of weapon should be given too a Brawler profession? Let me explain that a bit further. You propose to introduce a Brawler Class that can attack a Rifleman without fear of return fire (he's out of range, bless him) and outdamage every other Melee profession...in fact every profession except Commando and Bounty Hunter but I'm betting you are planning on super fast attacks for this profession to match that of a Fencer, no wait, to match those of a Master Jedi, so even the poor BH and Commando are left trailing in the damage stakes. How balanced does this sound to you so far? But wait, it has a weakness, a Jedi with 2 lightsabres can defeat one, oh good...I was getting worried that this character was too powerful.


My suggestion would stop dreaming about Lady of the Sith, stop trying to work out why there is no Jedi profession in the character generation. Get a melee character to Master, spend the rest of you skill points else where...PLAY THE GAME...fight in some PvP and THEN look at your suggested profession and see how it could be balanced to fit in with the other Melee professions. If you have done all the above already then I truely dispair for you but I can assure that no game developer will introduce anon FS profession that is as powerful as you are asking this to one to be...



...Except Combat Medic...





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jimbajimba
Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:05 am
#32






wussynip wrote:

As for the electrowhip it will be a Master only type electricity range 70m effectiveviness 40m Damage 900-4000. Remember this whip beat Luke down and knocked him out for a over a day. This is the type of weapon which would be a perfect hybrid profession.




????????? - You sure you got those stats right. Melee range is approx 25m with unarmed lunge 2, weapons around 10m max. Perhaps you should post this on the ranged forum. You might like to re-read your damage stats as well. No lightsaber or heavy weapon will be hitting for that damage, and lightsabers are the ultimate weapon (or at least should be) according to all star wars lore comic or not. A Tusken Rifle used as a coshknocked Luke out considerably, probably due to his lack of composite armour, yet I don't think rifleman should suddenly get KD/Dizzy from clubbing you with their gun. Get your ideas from whatever source you like but try to think in gaming terms when presenting them - beware of quoting figures as opposed to setting roles in combat which is preferred in proposals.


I think a whip could be included in the one-handed tree as new weapons are badly wanted but still going to be hard to dislodge the stun baton from my hand. I can not see how whipping is a class in it's own and how it should be a hybrid one better than Jedi. I think a dual weapon fighter would be a better hybrid tree for melee classes. Or possibly making Teras Kasi hybrid and adding a few more weapons and some throwing weapon abilities. I'm not goign to post a full proposal for either as the developers have bigger issues and I would rather they worked on the space expansion and more planets/content when they are done with combat rebalance. I like the current melee classesand wouldlike to see themfixed first.


Also I can not see any point in having to Master Entertainer to get an elite hybrid brawler character. What part of Instrument playing or Hairstyling is an essential combat skill. Dancing is also dubious but at least it could be said to increase footwork speed and agility. In fact I don't see that any of the basic professions would combine with brawler to lead to an elite hybrid classand so it would need a rethinkorsome new basic professions to initiate a melee hybrid class (there is a slight contradiction in melee-hybrid).




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Naele
Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:27 pm
#33

your idea sucks
Newtoon
Sat Mar 20, 2004 1:36 am
#34






wussynip wrote:

whips will be in the game which was used in the Satr Wars Univers. As for the electrowhip it will be a Master only type electricity range 70m effectiveviness 40m Damage 900-4000. Remember this whip beat Luke down and knocked him out for a over a day. This is the type of weapon which would be a perfect hybrid profession.




ROFLOL omg thats too funny.
You just made my day reading this as you babbed on about comics. Ok sorry about that I am still chuckling here but your idea for a whip weaponcould work but not asthe uber dubber, fancy dancy, freaking thing you seem to think itshould be. range 10m and even thats a bit long, but letskeep it in the same range as all the other melee weapons.Damage 90-180. Electricy as a damage type is ok I guess but alot of things (including comp armor are espically resisant to Electricty)


Incase you havent noticed G Lucas doesnt care at all that he has changed or rewritten history with the last 2 movies over what had previously been written in the EU (comics and books and cartoons even). Simply put Starwars is GL's own creation and nobody can tell him what to do with it.He can change and rewrite history as he seesfit to make the movies work the way he wants them to. and it this caseEU aside the movies are the only TRUE source of informationfrom the creator(since I dont believe he has any credits in the novels or books or comics). The reason the EU even exists is to continue to generate free money from licenseing for LucusArts. you wana right a book you can make up any old **edit** you want and as long as it doesnt suck you can get a license from LucusArts and have it be an offical starwars book. You pay LucusArts for the right to use his characters/worlds/background and other copyrighted materials in you book/comic/cartoon ect.. in return you get free automatic publicy since its a "starwars item" and that in-an-of-itself can generate interst and sales. Fanboies all over the world will snatch up your new gimickie thing since it has the starwars title on it.
Sirisandir
Sun Mar 21, 2004 9:15 pm
#35

Werd, horrible idea.



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sgt0802
Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:12 am
#36

SatansCircuswrote: yeah, then they can add elephants and top hats and we'll have ourselves a circus.

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We already have elephants.....ever seen a Thune or Snorbal before ?
ImpDude
Sat Mar 27, 2004 10:00 am
#37

Oh lord...with this idea i can turn into....STRIPPER MAN !!!


And with my whip i can do my robot dance !!! How wierd of a concept.



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