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Thread: Brawler TOP 5 issues currently?

Mapai
Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:35 am
#14

I see this has become a thread for jedi complaining about brawler, instead of a good dicussion about positive changes to brawler.


( I have a Knight and do not have trouble with brawlers btw)


I do know about the warcry bugs and such and have reported them the best I can. If anyone wants to be positive, instead of just complaining about it being broken, either post or send me a document on how to cause Warcry to be bugged or ways you have personally got it bugged or seen it bugged. I have some info, but am always up for more.



As far as being able to spam intimidate, all specials can be spammed right now, including initimidate. I can't say much on that, other than stuff like this is being looked at in the Combat Balance.


Hope to see some positive threads here from BRAWLERS, as I really want to give community feedback, and not just my oppinions.



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Triton_au
Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:44 am
#15

Sorry if it sounded like a whinge to you, I just strongly beleive that for a novice skill its a little bit overpowered.

Other than that.. what issues would brawler have? Uhhm... you can still use a speed sliced Knuckler to grind unarmed insanely fast?
Mapai
Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:22 am
#16






Triton_au wrote:
Sorry if it sounded like a whinge to you, I just strongly beleive that for a novice skill its a little bit overpowered.

Other than that.. what issues would brawler have? Uhhm... you can still use a speed sliced Knuckler to grind unarmed insanely fast?






This was a thread for brawlers to discuss what they would like to see for their proffesion, not what jedi would like to see brawlers change to, that was my point. And I am not debating you on the issue at novice, all I can say on that is it is all being looked at in the combat balance.



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Triton_au
Fri Nov 05, 2004 12:15 pm
#17



Mapai wrote:


Triton_au wrote:
Sorry if it sounded like a whinge to you, I just strongly beleive that for a novice skill its a little bit overpowered.

Other than that.. what issues would brawler have? Uhhm... you can still use a speed sliced Knuckler to grind unarmed insanely fast?


This was a thread for brawlers to discuss what they would like to see for their proffesion, not what jedi would like to see brawlers change to, that was my point. And I am not debating you on the issue at novice, all I can say on that is it is all being looked at in the combat balance.





Perhaps you should have put that in your first post then.

I considered what I said issues with the brawler profession... Perhaps your should read the other posts in the forum too, maybe they wont agree with my solutions but people consider the specials overpowered.

Oh.. and does beeing Jedi now exclude me from having an opinon? I didn't get the memo.
Sinara-Snake
Sat Nov 06, 2004 2:59 am
#18

I heard that the polearm damage, and polearm accuracy, one-handed damage, one-handed accuracy attachments are broken, if they are, that's something to fix.



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YuuKnow
Sun Nov 14, 2004 7:35 am
#19

Everyone and their mother is using Intimidate and Warcry. I'ld delete it from the Novice Box andmove it to Master Box to keep dabblers from abusing it; it should only be reserved for the truly dedicated Brawlers. (noice brawlers should get something else to compensate their loss).


And I'ld make it a AOE attack with about a 90 degreecone.



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Sinara-Snake
Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:07 pm
#20




YuuKnow wrote:

Everyone and their mother is using Intimidate and Warcry. I'ld delete it from the Novice Box andmove it to Master Box to keep dabblers from abusing it; it should only be reserved for the truly dedicated Brawlers. (noice brawlers should get something else to compensate their loss).



Intimidate and warcry success rate is rather low on Novice, and that's why people want to get Master Brawler.



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Wengel
Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:19 pm
#21






Sinara-Snake wrote:




YuuKnow wrote:

Everyone and their mother is using Intimidate and Warcry. I'ld delete it from the Novice Box andmove it to Master Box to keep dabblers from abusing it; it should only be reserved for the truly dedicated Brawlers. (noice brawlers should get something else to compensate their loss).



Intimidate and warcry success rate is rather low on Novice, and that's why people want to get Master Brawler.







Which is just spammed on the target so it makes no difference what so ever.


Mapai, a point that a lot of others have mentioned too: Warcry is used by everyone and their mother atm. This is gamebreaking, and it has been going on for so long now that PVP is suffering badly from it. I run a rather large guild/city atm, and i see quite often that people don't even wanna go on pvp, because so many is using this bug. It's not fun.


Since SOE obviously can't fix it, why can't it be disabled for pvp purposes? Then they can work on a fix while it's disabled, and then re-enable it once it's been fixed? Overall that should be a better way of handling it, than just leave it be for yet another month.


About Intimidate.. well.. intimidate is not the issue. that is working as intended. It's a powerfull skill if used correctly, yes.. but you can do something to avoid that. You can't vs warcrybug.


From a jedi point of view: Warcrybug = TKM attacks you =


"You have been delayed for 10/20 seconds". (Warcry1/2 is spammed on you)


"You feel dizzy!".


"You have been knocked down". (Knockdown2 slammed on you until it hits)


"You have been incapacitated by *insert name here*". (Unarmed Hit 3 until you incap. Hit3 vs a jedi that has no armor = quite a bit of damage, yet you can't heal)


"You have been slain by *insert name here*". (Game over. Still delayed btw)



Everyone knows it. Everyone and their mother uses it. I don't mind getting killed fair and square. But getting killed because some 13-year old "i-hate-my-father"-syndrome teenager that gets a hard on from killing knights because he found the "I Win Button", followed by the "PWNED NOOB"... that pisses me off.


And it pisses me even more off that despite countless "fixes" and such, it's still not fixed. Nor is it disabled until they can actually fix it.




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antares_Kauri
Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:41 am
#22

Away with the Jedi.

antares



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Wengel
Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:40 pm
#23






antares_Kauri wrote:
Away with the Jedi.

antares





Oh yes.. great reply...



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antares_Kauri
Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:32 pm
#24

/flail

Is that better?

antares



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Wengel
Fri Nov 19, 2004 7:29 pm
#25






antares_Kauri wrote:
/flail

Is that better?

antares





ever heard a word called "constructive"?



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antares_Kauri
Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:09 pm
#26

Probably.

I don't think Jedi by the barrel continually coming to complain about brawlers is really included in the definition, though.

antares



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