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Thread: ATTENTION ALL!!! COMBAT BALANCE DISPARITY!!!

NightHalder
Sun Jan 11, 2004 12:36 pm
#222






bhkiller102 wrote:

I used to be a BH, (the handle is from my smuggler days), and i totally agree with what the poster said. YOU CAN NOT USE OFFENSE IF U ARE LYING ON THE GROUND DIZZY! BH's have no def vs kd, so how are we supposed to attack when we are on our asses? offense does nothing without d, especially in a pvp system that makes the first kd win.






Ok, first off I used to be a 3-4-4-4 bh, so I can sympathize with the no def vs kd. But heres a thought, how bout u use your kd first? You can easily get a cdef carbine and spam it at 1 per second, and if they have high def vs kd, you can still dizzy+posture change! Plus the only other profession that has dizzy+kd is the tka, whom you can KITE.



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AtomicChipmonk
Sun Jan 11, 2004 6:59 pm
#223

u no, im a bh, and trass and i no each otehr very well.

Weve found ways around our horrible defences
Yes, bh has crap D
Yes we have some cool moves, dcent mods.
But whta i say, is if its not good for u dont eat it, for me, im 3440 bh 0020 carbineer 0040 pistoleer, and frankly im kiking ass in pvp VS TKMS. Thank you much, not callin for a nerf but if u do the job right, ull find u can kik major ass.

BTW when i had cripple my min damage in pvp to an unarmored person was 800, hah, that was fun.

Anyways, bhs think they have to just be bhs, and not dabble.
I didnt like llc, in fact i hate it, so im doing 2 defnecive lines, i ahve 3 pistol dots, stopping, and fan.
Carbineer i have fkd carge 1 and confuse, im sry, but thats pretty good.

And i squeeze novice med.

Bam, theres ur uber bh template right there.



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Wayticus
Sun Jan 11, 2004 8:24 pm
#224

Yes BH should have high offense for low defense, the problem is after the first three months of whines, and nerfs, they do not have, the origianl highoffense they did have, yet still have an extreeme lack of defense.


I am amused how people always bring up that BH has a ranged KD, and claim they are better then other classes for it, yet, carbiner, smuggler, and riflemen also have ranged knockdown. The profressions who do not have ranged knockdown, are the close ranged ones, they have mellee (whichnow has longer range then thehaevy weapons special, including that LLC everyone likes to mention that can do high damage if it hits)ranges knockdwons,how is that wrong?


They always point out how BH has more speed and accuracy then carbiner and pistoler, and that they can gain somedefense by taking up other professions lines. Does that not hold the same for thoose other professions and their combat lines? Except that MBH has only 33 points leftto take up thoose other professions lines, yet the other professions have over 100 left to increase their offenses toa higher level then that of the BH, and still have more defenses, if they choose.


If they remove the stackable nature of the offese and defensive mods, would you people be ok with giving BH defense, since they can't "dabble" defense anymore? Or would there be more whining since the other professions could not take BH skills to increase their speed and accuracy, above what a MBH can get?


I agree carbineer needs more defense as well.


But right now a staple of my combat is chargeshot, as it seems to land the KD more often then FKD, for knockdown (yes ranged knockdown, non BH special) andI am told, by fellowBH that cripplingshot is more damaging them spray shot. Just have yet to decide if I want to drop medic so i have enough skill points to get that far in the tree, since I am limited to 33 extra.


Now I came here to find some info on carbines specials since I am taking thoose skills up with my remaining points, just saw this post was still alive in this forum, so figured I'd check it out.


Something to take into account, the BHs have not been focused on yet by their assinged DEV, so they should have changes coming still.

Cypress434
Mon Jan 12, 2004 12:11 am
#225

BTW, I forgot to mention:


(3) with BH's high rate of speed, you are actually balancedwith a low hit %! Do the math; A higher rate of fire and a lower accuracy gives you the same amount of Damage per second considering the high rate of damage you inflict when you do hit. And I dont think I even have to mention your specials



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Xytroncore
Mon Jan 12, 2004 12:33 am
#226

So, you can set people on fire from 64m away (in other words you have access to the only DOt in the game that still incaps anyone), you can dizzy/kd people from 64m away, you can decimate a person's mind pool in no time.... So what if you can't kill the very rare uber template person, not everyone is mod stacking, so not everyone is invulnerable to you, not in the least.



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Ybagi
Mon Jan 19, 2004 7:01 pm
#227

Two words: Offense stacking



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