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That is right ladies and gentlemen Brawlers are not allowed to use VibroKnuclers anymore thanks to our wonderful Brawler Correspondent - Spaz_Hairlip. This individual during his last report stated the following.

6) Vibro Knuckles – Novice brawlers at the beginning of their skill tree can use these. It’s the same as giving the other professions the best weapon right away.

I was planning on following the Tera Kasi Profession, but since I have to get 125K Unarmed XP and I am not able to use my VibroKnucklers (even though I am already at Master Unarmed Specialization), then I might as well forget it. It's not because I don't want to work hard for it. It is because I almost get killed now by fighting one Servort which cons Blue to me and only gives me 100 XP.

This guy Spaz_Hairlip has totally ruined the game for this profession and he should be banned from ever saying anything else on these boards again.

By the way Spaz you could have suggested that move the certification to Expert Unarmed and not remove it from our class completely.

lol some people just aren't bright

The dude only submitted things that were given to him as problems. I'm not sure if it was worded correctly or what, but the only reason anything even close to that was there is because people from this forum brought it up as a problem.

Also, how many TKA masters have stated that they made it all the way to TKA and above WITHOUT knucklers? Geez, people...quit being so lazy and looking for the easy way out all the time. God forbid you actually have to WORK AT SOMETHING to get results.

I'm tired of seeing people whine and blame other things because they're too lazy to work at something and are always looking for the easy way out.

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Wookinpanub wrote:
lol some people just aren't bright

The dude only submitted things that were given to him as problems. I'm not sure if it was worded correctly or what, but the only reason anything even close to that was there is because people from this forum brought it up as a problem.

Also, how many TKA masters have stated that they made it all the way to TKA and above WITHOUT knucklers? Geez, people...quit being so lazy and looking for the easy way out all the time. God forbid you actually have to WORK AT SOMETHING to get results.

I'm tired of seeing people whine and blame other things because they're too lazy to work at something and are always looking for the easy way out.

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It's always so easy for people who have already finished something to then ask for it to be nerfed. Nothing like closing off advancement behind you so you can feel better about yourself.

very well put mackel!

It's not that we're not willing to work at something.

But EVERY OTHER COMBAT CLASS can do things besides attacking to enhance their combat abilities, all because they have to ability to seek better weapons.

As a pistol user, you can choose to spend time either attacking things for XP with your CDEF Pistol, or you can use your time to earn money, through crafting or whatever, and then buy a better pistol, so you can attack better.

Unarmed brawlers can no longer utilize this vital, central aspect of the game, and that is a severe problem. The problem could be fixed if they put in a few lower level unarmed weapons, such as punching gloves or combat-wrist-wraps.

The only thing left to doin the game for an unarmed brawler who wishes to advance is to GRIND low level monsters, and I know that that can't be what the devs intended when they made this game - with all the work in weaponsmithing and crafting, they obviously thought it was important to have variety in the game. I bought the game because of this!

I'm starting to see why the weaponsmiths and chefs are upset that they have to create 1,000's of useless low level items which no one wants to buy, in order to be able to create useful ones.

I think it was a poorly thought out suggestion by the Correspondent, regardless of his intentions he didn't think about the effects.

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Wookinpanub wrote:

Also, how many TKA masters have stated that they made it all the way to TKA and above WITHOUT knucklers? Geez, people...quit being so lazy and looking for the easy way out all the time. God forbid you actually have to WORK AT SOMETHING to get results.

I'm tired of seeing people whine and blame other things because they're too lazy to work at something and are always looking for the easy way out.

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Like I stated in my original statement, it's not that I am lazy,do not want to work, or that it isimpossible for me to become a Novice Tera Kasi Artist, so I can use my VKs again. It is just that there was no thought put into the statement he made. He could have suggested that they need to add more weapons or move the certification to a higher level of Unarmed.

A perfect example would be that in the Carbine profession, I had to fight low level creatures to advance to Expert Carbine in Marksman, so I could a Laser Carbine. The same should practice should have been put into Unarmed.

I agree with changing the vibro knuckler certification to master unarmed. The road to Novice TKA is too long and hard to manage this without VK.

I think making a VK certification higher than beginner is a good idea in theory. The problem is, since it's the only unarmed weapon, it's an all or nothing deal, and the differences in base damage are huge. Fighting without VK makes you do so much less damage than other combat professions.

I wish the profession was less reliant on VK. I think they should increase the base unarmed damage and decrease the actual damage bonus that VK give you.

We need something...more weapons choices for low levels perhaps. It it excruciating trying to level up these 4 bars so I can get smuggler. I am currently at unarmed II and things haven't gotten any easier. Capper Spineflaps still hurt me pretty bad. I guess I could grind Gnorts for that last 85k of exp...bleh.

I happen to agree that the wording of the problem was bad. I'm wondering, however, if there wasn't more to it such as adding new weapons for lower certs but that that stuff was left out. That was the idea behind the complaint as I understood it from other threads. Brass and spiked knucklers in the unarmed tree and vibro in the TKA tree.

Personally, I think you should get VK cert when you get master unarmed as the grind to even TKA Novice is tough. I've gotten to master unarmed without knucklers. It's completely doable. I agree that's it's not fun getting incapped by chubas, but them's the breaks for going that route. Less damage, faster speed, missing just as much. You attack faster, it just means you have that many more chances to miss.

Anyway, I apologize for being rude in my post. I'm just tired of seeing complaint after complaint because they took away an easy way of getting exp. Not that unarmed with knucklers is all that easier.

I think that the VK certification should be given at expert level. I can't imagine trying to claw my way back up to master unarmed for my master brawler certification without them. If not that, then there should be either a nice unarmed damage increase or another unarmed weapon certification given at this level. I'm mainly a fencer by profession, and just to contrast I had the certifications for both of the weapons I usually use within my elite class (Curved Sword and Vibroblade) by the time I got to Expert 1h.

Just kill stuff that con's light blue, you'll make TKA by next summer

I'm with vermin boy you put three things together in 2 days and you get TORTURE!

1) No more vibroknuckle by by no more fast attacks and **edit**house damage

2) Make every **edit** Monster stonger!!!!!! now we get owned

3) Make every **edit** mission worth half as much. Well done good job excellent work yeah I'm so happy all these things make it so fun to play. All I know is people bitch about how **edit** a brawler is, that won't be a problem anymore CAUSE NO ONE'S GENNA make it to TK before the end of the FREAKN YEAR!

good work corospondant. If their a petition to sack him I'm in.