Brawler Archive

I don't know who to thank for this wonderful idea, but the removal of Vibroknucklers from the Brawling Line has totally underpowered starting Unarmed. I'm an expert Unarmed and Ikopis which con blue to me are now giving me a run for my money due to my piss-poor damage. And, this is wearing armor and my health completely maxed out.

Something about this situation is VERY WRONG. With any other expert level skill (ranged, brawler, whatever)I can kill Ikopis in two hits. The Brawler correspondant needs to inform the devs of this serious issue ASAP (especially since he was the one who suggested making it so everyone couldn't use Vibroknucks in the first place)!

I have only 10k unarmed exp to go to get Master, at which point I can thankfully never use this lame unarmed skill again, but even so that 10k is going to be painful. It's hard not to be mad when you're suddenly having trouble killing Ikopis... I guess Unarmed has now become the most difficult line to level up in the whole game...why?

Im glad someone said this. As such, the brawler proffession uses the most ham to do any attack gets the most damage and does a triffling amount in return without the vibra.

I suppose the fact that this class has precious little in the way of weapons at all is perhaps the reason it is being gimped.. IE it doesnt drive the economy if it doesnt require the constant upgrading of player made equipment.

You dev's need to play this class to novice in TK . At the same level of compitance, almost any marksman, or weaponed class has a marked advantage in combat. For an unincumbered class relying on speed and reflexes we hit very slowly, do very little damage relative to even a pistol wielder. I'm sure everyone has issues with their class, but the basic name of the game with unarmed brawlers is unarmed damage brought about with extreme training and speed.

Teague

I spent 4500 on a better pair of vibros 2 days agao now I need TKA, a skill I have no want for, to use them? What is this? First I discover lower destroy mission payouts, anyoing new UI colors (forme that is) and now vibro knucklers needing TKA novice to certify for them! I used them to easlily remove lairs (isnce using guns ended up with the lair at full HP all the time and me swarmed by a millio creatures) but now without vibro knucklers I have no use for the unarmed section and wish I could remove it if it wasn't for the fact its a commando pre-req! Who do I thanks for this anwyays?

Boy are those polearm users gimped by the loss of VK. We know those Unarmed people before VKs were cheating, there is no way they could have become TKA unless they cheated.

For those of us who started out without VK, we dont think it is much of a gimp. Sure VK are nice but we did without them. We also walked to school in the snow, uphill both ways.

This is so painfull !!!

I'm just trying to get up to my smuggler pre-reqs and now I'm going to be risking my life to take on Blues that I could easily cap at a distance w/1 to 2 shots from my pistol !!!!

It would not be an issue if ANY unarmed weapons existing besides the knucks !

Ok, I just posted this in another thread, but here we go again.

I am currently a retired TK Master due to today's nerfs, but I can help you master unarmed without VK. I myself got a full two boxes into TK before I even bought my first set of VKs.

Ok, I didn't discover this until AFTER I did that the hard way, but I am willing to help you folks who need unarmed master for smuggler or for commando. I cannot stress enough that if you need unarmed master to become tera kasi yourself, QUIT NOW.

Ok, that said (hehe), make use of your bleed attacks - pistol is especially good as it goes after the health pool. BLEED the mob with your pulling shot, and immediately switch to bare hands. No damage has yet been done by gun, so as long as you hit the **edit** thing ONCE beforeit dies, you get 100% melee unarmed experience.

I am posting this as an aid to you folks who need unarmed master to move into your chosen profession. This may have been changed, but bleeds worked this way until today. Your mileage may vary. Respond to the thread with your results if you want to help others. Maybe SOE addressed this, maybe not.

I repeat though, don't go to tera kasi - use a gun. TK simply isn't worth it.

If you want to be just another marksman or pistoleer then do go the ranged weapon route. Personally I love being a TKA. With VK and only Intermediate Balance and Intermediate Power I can take on individual yellow /con creatures and five or more white /con creatures. The only reason I dont take on Red is a red /con creature may bea bit more powerful or incredibly more powerful since red covers a wider range of creatures.

VK are nice but not needed. If you like being different and find that Unarmed appeals keep it up and decide on your own.

But Leanna, isn't that the point? You enjoy that luxury because you got TKA before the VKs were removed from basic brawl.

It is one thing to add content to the game. I would think that is something we all could agree with. But to take something away? Why don't we take laser weaponsaway from Marksmen just to make it that much tougher? We got it already, right? Why should we care if it makes it tougher for others? Because your actions are affecting a lot of people who obviously disagree.

I hope the Devs reverse this awful decision. If TKs want their own special weapon GIVE THEM A NEW ONE. Dont take away one.

Luckily I got was able to achieve Master Unarmed Specialist this past weekend before this "Mega Patch" was put in place. I still think it is a mistake that they removed the VibroKnucklers from Brawlers and moved the certification to Novice Tera Kasi Artist. I believe that the cerification should be at least moved over to Expert Unarmed Speciliation.

Lenna's theory seems sound and I will tryit to reach Novice Tera Kasi. The only reason I am going to do this is because I have a few points left over and I thought it would be nice to have it, but if I can not use my VK's then I dont know if I will persue that.

Please Devs take a good look at the decision you have made, because that decision might just hurt the Brawler and Tera Kasi profession. Please move the certification to Expert Bralwer.

Vermin
Lowca
Novice Smuggler