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Thread: A new Perma-death Idea (BH vs. Jedi)

Soulcaster
Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:53 am
#1

I originally posted this in the Jedi forum...and got somenegative feed back already.lol.

Let me know what you guys think about this.


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My new idea for BHs vs. Jedi (Perma-death)



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GlargTheKelfn
Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:55 am
#2

allow me to be the 1st to say
/rofl

permadeath hahahahah, seriously, stop it




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AllForOne
Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:56 am
#3

Will never happen



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Soulcaster
Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:02 am
#4

no constructive criticism huh. Just dont like perma death huh?


Guess none of u played Diablo II and new the feeling of playing a hard-core character that was a high level. And how fun it was to play knowing u had the possibility of losing him...and how awesome it was for people to see you with a hardcore character?


It would kind of be like that, with adornments on ur character of all the players that you have killed. Certainly would add some content and fun to the game,





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Sundal
Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:19 am
#5

You must have known that people were not going to like this idea. Were you expecting someone to tell you that you're smart? You're orginal? Creative? Sorry to burst your bubble, but this idea pops up every week. It's not new.


Speaking from a business perspective, and that's what SWG is essentially. You dont want to give your players any cause to leave. Any type of perma-death or item lostdetaches a player from his character. If you dont care about your character you obviously will not pay to play it.


The only way this would work is if you set up an entirely new server that only caters to hardcore players. Which is what Diablo does, but also blizzard doesnt care if you never play diablo again so long as the word spreads and people buy their new games. SOE needs monthly subscriptions.


The question is this... if another server opens up, how many players would join for this reason? I doubt many, but who knows.
Vegitaa
Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:20 am
#6

Permadeath will never return because in the current system my Jedi is my original character not a 2nd character slot.


When permadeath was in-game it was not as bad because your Jedi was your Alt, not your original toon.


No way in hell would the Dev's get away with perma-killing a toon that someone has had since launch. If we were still using our 2nd slot as our Jedi then maybe it could return but I know I've been playing my toon since day 3. If they ever introduced permadeath on that character I would quit the day I see it in the test center patch notes.






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There is no fear, there is power.
There is no death, there is immortality.
There is no weakness, there is the Dark Side. I am the Heart of Darkness.
I know no fear, but rather I instil it in my enemies. I am the destroyer of worlds.
I know the power of the Dark Side. I am the fire of hate.
All the Universe bows before me, I pledge myself to the Darkness.
For I have found true life, in the death of the light.


BadKarma777
Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:37 am
#7


So basically, your proposal is that only full-template Jedi (the most powerful characters in the game 1v1) are the only Jedi that hit the perma-death terms - the fight HAS to be 1v1 asevidenced by only 1 BH being able to get the mission - and then he is suppose to risk his not 1.5x stronger than a regular profession character in a 1v1 duel against an opponent who is the strongest possible character in a 1 on 1 fight only to die permanently when he loses?


That seems balanced to you?


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Message Edited by BadKarma777 on 10-14-2005 09:38 AM



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Naplam
Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:49 am
#8

so many reason why perma-death is not coming back, crashing to desktop while in a fight is reason enough for never having it again.



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BrendanK
Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:13 am
#9

[yoda voice] Permadeath....Gone it is..consumed my S.O.E.... [/yoda voice]

Wish it still was here, but alas, it is gone for good..



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Exposis
Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:17 am
#10

Jedi aint the uber template any more with there ls damage etc. Its been along time since perma death. And this is were perma death will stay buried!



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RingSting_IOM
Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:19 am
#11

lol


When I saw the title of this post in the list I predicted in my mind the probable replies of such a post by the half wits. They were:


It will never happen


and


Stop beating the dead horse



One of them appeared lol, maybe I have the force.





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BrendanK
Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:23 am
#12



RingSting_IOM wrote:

lol

When I saw the title of this post in the list I predicted in my mind the probable replies of such a post by the half wits. They were:

It will never happen

and

Stop beating the dead horse

One of them appeared lol, maybe I have the force.






So we're half wits because we're realists? lol



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Vegitaa
Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:34 am
#13


  1. Stop beating a Dead Horse.

  2. It will never happen.

Happy now? LMAO!


Seriously, I know many of us wouldn't have as much of a problem with it if it didn't mean losing a character I've played for 2 years. Also Jedi are not the 1.5x stronger that people claim. Add in lag, LD kills, and bugs... I'm sorry to say you need to come up with a different solution.


I believe Tanks had a great thread going about a "Blue Glowey" system. Even seemed reasonable. If I remember correctly, once a Jedi gets killed by BH X amount of times instead of Permadeath, they would be Blue Glowey for a few days or weeks (not sure on time limit). As Blue Glowey they would only be able to be seen by other Jedi and could not affect the world in any realistic way. So no checking harvies, piloting ships, killin npc's, etc.. just cruising around able to chat in guildchat and the like.


More like a penalty box than a permadeath. Heck, I'm a Jedi and I'd support that. But take away the millions of credits, 2 pa halls full of stuff, 100+ badges and 2 years worth of gameplay... no way any reasonable person would agree to that. Imagine the shoe on the other foot. You as a MBH go after Jedi, you get killed by your mark 3 times in one week. EVERYTHING in your houses, inventory and bank go poof and you have to start back at CL1. I doubt BH'ers would call for permadeath if it worked on both sides of the issue. Also, if you weren't around back then, Jedi didn't have lots either. Your Main character never changed, he was never carrying a saber or using the force.


So, though I understand your need desire for the permadeath system, I find it interesting that BH'ers would not support it being implemented both directions. It's ok to put everything I've worked at for 2 years in jeopardy but you're not willing to do the same... interesting....





There is no peace, there is anger.
There is no fear, there is power.
There is no death, there is immortality.
There is no weakness, there is the Dark Side. I am the Heart of Darkness.
I know no fear, but rather I instil it in my enemies. I am the destroyer of worlds.
I know the power of the Dark Side. I am the fire of hate.
All the Universe bows before me, I pledge myself to the Darkness.
For I have found true life, in the death of the light.


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