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Thread: The Reason Why People Whine About Jedi...

SmokaFett1
Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:01 pm
#1

yeah do u always cry like this??


and not only that u sure put a lot of thought into your whining this time...does that make it any less whining??


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Message Edited by SmokaFett1 on 07-23-2005 01:48 PM



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mickolakis
Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:01 pm
#2





so what about the bounty hunter exploits ?




Such as?




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SioBabble
Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:05 pm
#3




mickolakis wrote:






so what about the bounty hunter exploits ?




Such as?





Hmmm. Still waiting!




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ShaikeRamjet
Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:08 pm
#4




SioBabble wrote:





mickolakis wrote:






so what about the bounty hunter exploits ?




Such as?





Hmmm. Still waiting!




Yeah, I want to here this too. Another thing that a lot of Jedi don't realize or care about is how Jedi have affected the player economy. A lot of crafters have quit crafting because so many people migrated to Jedi. The sales of weapons and Armor have drastically dropped because these are things that Jedi simply do not need.



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CPA
Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:08 pm
#5




ShaikeRamjet wrote:


Let's see....


First, The Exploits:


  • Jedi have used exploits to over power their sabers by stack crystals and pearls... not once but twice now. BH's double-slicing weapons.

  • Jedi have used an exploit using the /duel command in order to see if a BH has thier mission. BH's using /duel to keep a Jedi from attacking.

  • Jedi have used the exploit of attacking while cloaked. BH's can initiate attack from under cover - Jedi cannot start combat with a BH, ever, unless they have been attacked.

  • Jedi have used an exploit that allowed them to take advantage of a broken TEF system allowing them to run inside house while in combat with the BH. BH's have run from me, usually to come back with one or two other BHs.

  • Jedi have used an exploit of using 2 attacks simultaneously in order to hit twice in a single action.

  • Jedi have exploited the Respec in order to train a bunch of low level boxes so that they could just respec 12 hours later to the high level boxes in order to circumvent the higher XP requirements. ROFL - check out the Jedi forums for the hilarious respec BH tells.

  • Jedi have used the LOS exploit on the Rryyat Trails in order to avoid combat from BH. BH's do the same thing, even seen BH attack in pairs and abandon the fight when one dies by going to the bridge.


    • I know there are more... but you get the point. There is plenty of reason for people to complain and "whine" about Jedi. A lot of the exploits affected more than just BH. Jedi are always finding an exploit and some way to get around the few drawbacks that Jedi have.


    Second, Inconvenience of Jedi:


  • Many people feel that Jedi are too great in number. BH's are way too rare, huh?

  • Many people feel that the Jedi profession has ruined the GCW because of their numbers. May be problematic, but there would be no GCW without Jedi (ie they started it).

  • Many people feel that because of their numbers, Jedi are too powerful. Until pub-20, it was the BHs that were attacking Jedi in gangs, not the other way around.

  • Many people feel that Jedi are an alpha class and do not have a place in a game with 32 other professions unless their power is greatly reduced in order to maintain a balance for ALL professions. Many players have their parents pay their subscription for them, so why should their opinions matter? OK, that was just to be mean, /blush. Seriously though, you complaining about the Jedi from a BH point of view is just as selfish.


    • In general, a LOT of people feel that Jedi have ruined this game. There really is just too many of them. A lot of people don't think it's fair that just because they do not want to be a Jedi, they seem to be punished for it. Many Jedi like to try to point the finger and say these people are just jealous of their power when in actuality... that power is grossly overpowered and should be toned down due to the vast number of Jedi. If Jedi were few, then I agree to their need for great power. But when a server of 1500 subscribers has 750 or more Jedi on it... there is a problem.


    Message Edited by ShaikeRamjet on 07-23-2005 03:49 PM







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    sememon
    Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:10 pm
    #6




    ShaikeRamjet wrote:


    Jedi have exploited the Respec in order to train a bunch of low level boxes so that they could just respec 12 hours later to the high level boxes in order to circumvent the higher XP requirements.








    yup. because jedi were the only profession that have done this?! TBH, the BH profession has more /repsec'ers in it than any other.


    For each jedi exploit you've listed. the community could list a BH exploit. its a 2 way thing.

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    ShaikeRamjet
    Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:14 pm
    #7

    Wow... BH can slice weapons? And how does /duel keep a Jedi from attacking? BH attacking first is not an exploit, it is by design. Jedi attacking while still cloaked is an exploit. People respecing to Master BH wasn't an exploit. Jedi using the respec to grind to a full template was without grinding the higher XP, was.


    Most Jedi have BH as their alts, making the increase in BH even more pronounced. There was a GCW before there was Jedi in this game. And I'm not going to respond to the thing about parents paying for their children's subscriptions since I am neither a child or a parent.





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    Mallize
    Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:16 pm
    #8

    SmokaFett1 wrote:

    yeah do u always cry like this??

    and not only that u sure put a lot of thought into your whining this time...does that make it any less whining??

    **edit for typos**

    Message Edited by SmokaFett1 on 07-23-2005 01:48 PM




    Next time you should edit for proper grammar too. 



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    AelricMistrider
    Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:17 pm
    #9

    CPA wrote:

    ShaikeRamjet wrote:

    Let's see....

    First, The Exploits:

  • Jedi have used exploits to over power their sabers by stack crystals and pearls... not once but twice now. BH's double-slicing weapons.
  • Jedi have used an exploit using the /duel command in order to see if a BH has thier mission. BH's using /duel to keep a Jedi from attacking.
  • Jedi have used the exploit of attacking while cloaked. BH's can initiate attack from under cover - Jedi cannot start combat with a BH, ever, unless they have been attacked.
  • Jedi have used an exploit that allowed them to take advantage of a broken TEF system allowing them to run inside house while in combat with the BH. BH's have run from me, usually to come back with one or two other BHs.
  • Jedi have used an exploit of using 2 attacks simultaneously in order to hit twice in a single action.
  • Jedi have exploited the Respec in order to train a bunch of low level boxes so that they could just respec 12 hours later to the high level boxes in order to circumvent the higher XP requirements. ROFL - check out the Jedi forums for the hilarious respec BH tells.
  • Jedi have used the LOS exploit on the Rryyat Trails in order to avoid combat from BH. BH's do the same thing, even seen BH attack in pairs and abandon the fight when one dies by going to the bridge.

    • I know there are more... but you get the point. There is plenty of reason for people to complain and "whine" about Jedi. A lot of the exploits affected more than just BH. Jedi are always finding an exploit and some way to get around the few drawbacks that Jedi have.

    Second, Inconvenience of Jedi:

  • Many people feel that Jedi are too great in number. BH's are way too rare, huh?
  • Many people feel that the Jedi profession has ruined the GCW because of their numbers. May be problematic, but there would be no GCW without Jedi (ie they started it).
  • Many people feel that because of their numbers, Jedi are too powerful. Until pub-20, it was the BHs that were attacking Jedi in gangs, not the other way around.
  • Many people feel that Jedi are an alpha class and do not have a place in a game with 32 other professions unless their power is greatly reduced in order to maintain a balance for ALL professions. Many players have their parents pay their subscription for them, so why should their opinions matter? OK, that was just to be mean, /blush. Seriously though, you complaining about the Jedi from a BH point of view is just as selfish.

    • In general, a LOT of people feel that Jedi have ruined this game. There really is just too many of them. A lot of people don't think it's fair that just because they do not want to be a Jedi, they seem to be punished for it. Many Jedi like to try to point the finger and say these people are just jealous of their power when in actuality... that power is grossly overpowered and should be toned down due to the vast number of Jedi. If Jedi were few, then I agree to their need for great power. But when a server of 1500 subscribers has 750 or more Jedi on it... there is a problem.

    Message Edited by ShaikeRamjet on 07-23-2005 03:49 PM






    Can't believe you brought up double sliced weapons. That was what..over a year ago? As for your other "issues", BH have to do something to overcome the rampant exploiting by several (not all) of your Jedi brethren. Not saying it's the right thing to do, but when you have Force cloakers, house runners, and ride catchers, you tend to come up with work-arounds to combat this.

    And nobody said a BH is supposed to be honorable in what he does.




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    Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:20 pm
    #10

    Mallize wrote:

    SmokaFett1 wrote:

    yeah do u always cry like this??

    and not only that u sure put a lot of thought into your whining this time...does that make it any less whining??

    **edit for typos**

    Message Edited by SmokaFett1 on 07-23-2005 01:48 PM




    Next time you should edit for proper grammar too.



    Also, "u" should be you.



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    CPA
    Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:20 pm
    #11
    I'm sorry for bringing up relevant counterpoints. And FYI, if there is a profession that should be known for exploiting or given a license to, it should be Smuggler not BH.



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    Dlek_Krego
    Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:22 pm
    #12

    CPA wrote:

    ShaikeRamjet wrote:

    Let's see....

    First, The Exploits:

  • Jedi have used exploits to over power their sabers by stack crystals and pearls... not once but twice now. BH's double-slicing weapons.
  • Jedi have used an exploit using the /duel command in order to see if a BH has thier mission. BH's using /duel to keep a Jedi from attacking.
  • Jedi have used the exploit of attacking while cloaked. BH's can initiate attack from under cover - Jedi cannot start combat with a BH, ever, unless they have been attacked.
  • Jedi have used an exploit that allowed them to take advantage of a broken TEF system allowing them to run inside house while in combat with the BH. BH's have run from me, usually to come back with one or two other BHs.
  • Jedi have used an exploit of using 2 attacks simultaneously in order to hit twice in a single action.
  • Jedi have exploited the Respec in order to train a bunch of low level boxes so that they could just respec 12 hours later to the high level boxes in order to circumvent the higher XP requirements. ROFL - check out the Jedi forums for the hilarious respec BH tells.
  • Jedi have used the LOS exploit on the Rryyat Trails in order to avoid combat from BH. BH's do the same thing, even seen BH attack in pairs and abandon the fight when one dies by going to the bridge.

    • I know there are more... but you get the point. There is plenty of reason for people to complain and "whine" about Jedi. A lot of the exploits affected more than just BH. Jedi are always finding an exploit and some way to get around the few drawbacks that Jedi have.

    Second, Inconvenience of Jedi:

  • Many people feel that Jedi are too great in number. BH's are way too rare, huh?
  • Many people feel that the Jedi profession has ruined the GCW because of their numbers. May be problematic, but there would be no GCW without Jedi (ie they started it).
  • Many people feel that because of their numbers, Jedi are too powerful. Until pub-20, it was the BHs that were attacking Jedi in gangs, not the other way around.
  • Many people feel that Jedi are an alpha class and do not have a place in a game with 32 other professions unless their power is greatly reduced in order to maintain a balance for ALL professions. Many players have their parents pay their subscription for them, so why should their opinions matter? OK, that was just to be mean, /blush. Seriously though, you complaining about the Jedi from a BH point of view is just as selfish.

    • In general, a LOT of people feel that Jedi have ruined this game. There really is just too many of them. A lot of people don't think it's fair that just because they do not want to be a Jedi, they seem to be punished for it. Many Jedi like to try to point the finger and say these people are just jealous of their power when in actuality... that power is grossly overpowered and should be toned down due to the vast number of Jedi. If Jedi were few, then I agree to their need for great power. But when a server of 1500 subscribers has 750 or more Jedi on it... there is a problem.

    Message Edited by ShaikeRamjet on 07-23-2005 03:49 PM






    Don't foret that little thing about slapping Stormie NPC's to get incapped so they can stand up and use LD as that first strike.

    Oh yeah, I forgot. BH's don't exploit...they just use "good tactics."





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    Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:23 pm
    #13

    CPA wrote:
    I'm sorry for bringing up relevant counterpoints. And FYI, if there is a profession that should be known for exploiting or given a license to, it should be Smuggler not BH.




    Your reasoning for this comment is?



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