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Thread: **.:Elite Double Gold Boss Marks: There are different types:.** (a clarification)
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DanielDirem
Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:42 pm
#1
Ok, I'm tired of people posting things that look similar to the example I'll post below:
"your just a NOOB, I beat my Boss Mark in 5 minutes... EASY... your JUST A NOOB AND SUCK... etc etc etc... maybe you should learn... get skills NOOB..." blah blah blah.. whatever.
The fact is, post like these just have no intelligence behind them, so I thought I might clarify different types of Boss Marks I have encountered and seen posted about on this forum.
Boss Type 1- Increased AI skills, medium regen rate (not as slow as ours but not as fast as the bugged bosses), damage output is higher due to the increased AI skills.
Boss Type 2- Increased AI skills, fast regen rate (one of the two types of bugged boss marks), damage output is almost non-exsistant even though they are using the new skills given to them.
Boss Type 3- Increased AI skills, fast regen rate (second of the two bugged boss marks), damage output is higher then the first type using AI skills.
These are the three that I have encountered and seen posted about on the forums, I'm sure there are variations of all three because its more of a random thing. I'm just tired of Bounty Hunters coming on here talking about their encounter with BT3 and others telling them they are stupid because they just beat BT1 it just took thinking.
Note: These are the only types I have seen so far but am doing more missions tonight to see if there are other variations, I ask that you dont flame this but rather respond with intelligent input so I can change a few things around. Again, this is only what I have observed.
Lord-R
Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:57 pm
#3
/agree
for myfirst double gold boss i ran across I assumed that it was the one everyone was complaing about when i took it out uner 2mins. but then after thinking that theres no way there are so many people complaing that this could be right i kept grabbing more missons.
then i ran into what i would think is a mixture of Type 2 and 3
the other guy that made a video seems to have ran into your Type 3 and not only that but his damage output seemed to be bugged. (the players not the mark) . none of his hitsseemed to beregistoring. you could see +critical+ over the marks head but his ham didn't move nor did you see a fly text showing damage.
shakakon
Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:01 pm
#5
AGREE, bout time people start to think and look beyond the "black/white" of npcs. Thanx for the clarification.
robpro
Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:08 pm
#7
Now can you give us the ODDS of getting each type. I still bet the odds are in fovor of the bounty hunter winning 99% of the time. I know the babies whant better odds than that. If its not 100% I win because i only do bh missions because im a loot **edit** they dont want it.
DanielDirem wrote:
Ok, I'm tired of people posting things that look similar to the example I'll post below:
"your just a NOOB, I beat my Boss Mark in 5 minutes... EASY... your JUST A NOOB AND SUCK... etc etc etc... maybe you should learn... get skills NOOB..." blah blah blah.. whatever.
The fact is, post like these just have no intelligence behind them, so I thought I might clarify different types of Boss Marks I have encountered and seen posted about on this forum.
Boss Type 1- Increased AI skills, medium regen rate (not as slow as ours but not as fast as the bugged bosses), damage output is higher due to the increased AI skills.
Boss Type 2- Increased AI skills, fast regen rate (one of the two types of bugged boss marks), damage output is almost non-exsistant even though they are using the new skills given to them.
Boss Type 3- Increased AI skills, fast regen rate (second of the two bugged boss marks), damage output is higher then the first type using AI skills.
These are the three that I have encountered and seen posted about on the forums, I'm sure there are variations of all three because its more of a random thing. I'm just tired of Bounty Hunters coming on here talking about their encounter with BT3 and others telling them they are stupid because they just beat BT1 it just took thinking.
Note: These are the only types I have seen so far but am doing more missions tonight to see if there are other variations, I ask that you dont flame this but rather respond with intelligent input so I can change a few things around. Again, this is only what I have observed.
Bradleyius
Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:10 pm
#8
McRibs wrote:
my eyes burn!
No crap dude, blue doesn't mix well with black. I'm sueing you if I have a seizure
DanielDirem
Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:13 pm
#9
There should not be a mark that is unbeatable, that just doesnt make any sense. If all marks were like type 1 that took a while to beat and without paying attention you could lose to no one would be complaining.
Having marks like type 3, that you cannot beat, doesnt make sense.
BriaChiiry
Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:44 pm
#10
/agree 100%
Some other things i've noticed you might like to try! On the super duper ones stay at your max range and try and KD him as you get Icapped. On all these missons when the mark was at super regen and dishing out damage like crazy when i KDed him and he Icapped me he didnt corpse me. Instead timer goes off and i heal up and go in again and now he does 10pts of damage per shot. Tested a few times and so far it hasnt failed.
Some other rants though. Besides the fact that they regen health like crazy and action like crazy. The same mark also used specials from all over on me. Starts ranged and uses some carbs specials. closed to melee and uses some swords on me. Back to range used pistol specials this time around! Then rifle snared me! When he closed to melee again now hes a pikemen! I think if the AI was limited to certain skills like we are then we could fight them better by knowing which specials we are going to see, when they can do them all it kinda makes it tough but what the heck we dont have unlimited SP!!!!
Another thing why can they DB at 65m? They took out the rifles ranged DB and you would think the NPCs would be limited to that as well. They should have to close distance to DB us since they are now making fighting some of these marks more like PVP! Although i do love the new AI its not just mindless button pushing! I just think there should be some adjustments!
/rant off
/flame on
lbfoofoo
Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:49 pm
#11
I was about to ask if the boss marks were a bug or something. Glad someone is seeing "normal" boss marks still. Hopefully the uper uber ones are just bugged and will ger patched soon. i've said it before, I don't mind the npc's using specials, i rather like the challengebut making the npc invincible is stupid.
salvestrom
Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:56 pm
#12
The majority of my double gold bosses don't even have 30k ham. Usually they just have 17-19k ham. As you posted some hit for near nothing (assumed bug), some hit around 200ish. The toughest double gold I've ecountered was 30k ham and poured out damage, 500-600dmg hits. This was the day before publish 24.
Yojimbo115
Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:33 pm
#13
Now can you give us the ODDS of getting each type. I still bet the odds are in fovor of the bounty hunter winning 99% of the time. I know the babies whant better odds than that. If its not 100% I win because i only do bh missions because im a loot **edit** they dont want it.
I've been using my 2 days off to test just that Cron. I have hunted almost nonstop to test this for the BH's of SHadowfire.
Yes, there is an initial shock due to the change in AI and damage output by the marks. After that steeles, there is the realization that these guys are one helluva lot harder than they used to be/should be.
I have, through tactics and sharp thinking been able to take most of the marks I have encountered. This doesn't mean that the BH's that haven't are bad players or "noobs", it just that I use a different tactic than they do.
As for calling them "babies", I think it's disrespectful as hell brother. These may be people that find their enjoyment in SWG from hunting NPC marks, whether it's because they simply like to roleplay a BH and write about NPC mark hunts, or because they dislike PvP. Whatever the case, and depending on their fighting style; the content that they enjoy has become "tainted" by new system changes. Don't make yourself look bad by assuming that ALL NPC hunters are loot whores.
This isn't a flame, just a bit of a different perspective on what I think might be a bit of a narrow view of the statements being made in the regard to NPC hunters.
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