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REDLION78
Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:54 am
#1
Well...
Everyone speaks of killing and caping the Jedi population. I for one am for permadeath because I hate the way dozens ofJedi justrun a muck in Major Cities at any given moment. I can't stand MOSTJedi because of this (not all).It is the reason Ibecame aBounty Hunter in the first place.You never see Jediconducting themselves this way in the movies.However, because I need Jedi to kill in order tomake a living, I can't justify getting ridthem completly. So, it has been said many times the following adjustments could improve the game.
Just give Jedi the ability to group withoutgaining visability.If a Jedi chooses to "show off" or duel in a Major City then not onlydo they end up on the terms, ALSO make them attackable by every player, creature, and NPCinstantly for a period of time. This willlet them grind in peace and it should keep them out of the Major Cities for the most part. At the very least I won't have to be subjected to all the "Fight Club" antics that has become a Jedi signature trait. The bottom line is, If they pop-a-glowstick in public (City TEF), they risk XP Debt.
Well...on second thought. Forget whatI just said.TheEmperorwas right.Execute Order 66...bring back permadeath!
WiseBobo
Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:10 am
#2
REDLION78 wrote:
Well...
Everyone speaks of killing and caping the Jedi population. I for one am for permadeath because I hate the way dozens ofJedi justrun a muck in Major Cities at any given moment. I can't stand MOSTJedi because of this (not all).It is the reason Ibecame aBounty Hunter in the first place.You never see Jediconducting themselves this way in the movies.However, because I need Jedi to kill in order tomake a living, I can't justify getting ridthem completly. So, it has been said many times the following adjustments could improve the game.
Just give Jedi the ability to group withoutgaining visability.If a Jedi chooses to "show off" or duel in a Major City then not onlydo they end up on the terms, ALSO make them attackable by every player, creature, and NPCinstantly for a period of time. This willlet them grind in peace and it should keep them out of the Major Cities for the most part. At the very least I won't have to be subjected to all the "Fight Club" antics that has become a Jedi signature trait. The bottom line is, If they pop-a-glowstick in public (City TEF), they risk XP Debt.
Well...on second thought. Forget whatI just said.TheEmperorwas right.Execute Order 66...bring back permadeath!
Removing the visability from grouping is just about one of the worst ideas when it comes to what should be done, however, your second idea is very meritable.
Keep the current visability system and add a 'combatant TEF'.
-Xell-
Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:10 am
#3
You don't make a strong point when your last sentance tells us to forget everything you just said.
hmmBeer
Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:26 am
#6
No one likes the big Jedi duels in the major cities, even the majority of Jedi. In fact, the only Jedi I know that like that sort of thing are the ones participating, and there will be more. Bounty hunters do not control Jedi population or even slow it down, why do people continue to believe this delusion? Jedi population is controlled via the village (and it only slows down population growth). So expect more Jedi, not less. I would venture to guess that the return of perma-death would be nothing short of disasterous.
That said, what about the Jedi you see being good citizens? Healing wounds, helping new players, etc... Are they showing off as well?
antipigeon
Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:34 am
#7
REDLION78 wrote:
Jedi should never be seen or heard in major cities....
i agreee, im a jedi and i agree, it takes out all teh RP parts of this game .
sadly SOE let us do it, i just hope they make factional NPC attack ALL jedi they see, and if the NPC die, they call for reinformets, 100 stormies, and 10 at-st comes rolling up to theed, (reincorments only attack jedi), and if they fail, more reinforments arrive, AT-AT's, and around 200 stormies... AND if those fail, have a star destroyer land outside theed, and pop out a couple of thousands lvl80 stormies (with vader)
wouldnt that be a good game SOE????? it cant be that hard to implement
Message Edited by antipigeon on 06-21-2005 05:37 AM
Insaincat
Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:36 am
#8
There was a simple solution to this but Jedi show boats got it nixed; Saber/Force TEFs. Every Jedi should be instantly attackable by anyone the second they betray themselfs to be Jedi. This would even alow them to continue to group grind, while their group members probly wouldn't attack them.
DajonJamore
Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:59 am
#9
forgive me for posting on your forums but you want permadeath to come back..if it does it will lower the numger of jedi you so love to hunt down...
warrenbassist
Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:05 am
#10
DajonJamore wrote:
forgive me for posting on your forums but you want permadeath to come back..if it does it will lower the numger of jedi you so love to hunt down...
I can't speak for all BH but I believe permadeath sounds good on paper, but if I were to put myself in the shoes of a Jedi. I think it would be a big mistake, considering the state of the game is in today. There aretoo many player Jedi now, you can't possibly force them all into quitting their chosen prof.
OmegaZeuS
Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:11 am
#11
Hmm, don't remove visibility from group hunting, but remove visibility from hunting with other jedi from the same faction, cuz that's silly.
As for the showing off in major cities, if they pop a glowstick a timer should start and then Vader comes in boasting a CL500 tag and with some CL95 super troopers to teach em' a lesson.
As for permadeath: bring it back, but make it permanent only after a large number of kills done only by a BH, not a critter/duel/PvP, BH only permadeath, and not a 3 kill counter, more like 20, maybe more, give the paddys a chance to see glory before taking it all away (Oh, and the Vader smackdowns count for a BH kill)
Oh, and when you get perma-death'd, give them a 1 time respec that allows them to respec all the skillpoints they had in jedi into whatever regular prof they want and let the try the village quests all over again if they want.
Message Edited by OmegaZeuS on 06-21-2005 06:13 AM
VTmoon
Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:31 am
#12
WiseBobo wrote:
REDLION78 wrote:
Well...
Everyone speaks of killing and caping the Jedi population. I for one am for permadeath because I hate the way dozens ofJedi justrun a muck in Major Cities at any given moment. I can't stand MOSTJedi because of this (not all).It is the reason Ibecame aBounty Hunter in the first place.You never see Jediconducting themselves this way in the movies.However, because I need Jedi to kill in order tomake a living, I can't justify getting ridthem completly. So, it has been said many times the following adjustments could improve the game.
Just give Jedi the ability to group withoutgaining visability.If a Jedi chooses to "show off" or duel in a Major City then not onlydo they end up on the terms, ALSO make them attackable by every player, creature, and NPCinstantly for a period of time. This willlet them grind in peace and it should keep them out of the Major Cities for the most part. At the very least I won't have to be subjected to all the "Fight Club" antics that has become a Jedi signature trait. The bottom line is, If they pop-a-glowstick in public (City TEF), they risk XP Debt.
Well...on second thought. Forget whatI just said.TheEmperorwas right.Execute Order 66...bring back permadeath!
Removing the visability from grouping is just about one of the worst ideas when it comes to what should be done, however, your second idea is very meritable.
Keep the current visability system and add a 'combatant TEF'.
yeha seriously, saber Tef would send thme running to the hills were they belong.
pain-bringer
Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:52 am
#13
i have to disagree with this perma-death business. while i do hate all the jedi running around, it wouldn't be fair to kill them off after all the time they spent to get to where they were. you know, the jedi are like the agent smith of SWG, lol. they just keep multiplying and multiplying.
also there are some good jedi characters!
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