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Thread: Jedi/ bh exploit.. devs please read

Anarchicgorilla
Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:11 pm
#1

A jedi or Bh with root can do the following


kd jedi/bh put on root ... this will cause the defending player to not be able to kd recover thoughout the whole root. /dump stand nothing will override this


This can be over 20 seconds.


I have had 3 jedi today do the kd/root and watch as I cannot recover and the just attak for 20 seconds straight while I get cannot kd recover while kd.


I told the jedi it was sploit... jedi said pistols root can do it too. So it is not a sploit. The way I see this is a very unfair advantage.



If this is not a sploit let me now so I can grind pistols 0004 for a first strike kd/root--- then 20 seconds of free hits (with my droid doing 81 damage after armor)

If it is a sploit... needs to be fixed



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ocili
Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:13 pm
#2

wouldn't work against jedi as they can heal while KD.....



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MasterGettingOnTerms
Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:15 pm
#3

whenever i get kdd and rooted i can always get back up



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Nathanielstarr
Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:19 pm
#4






MasterGettingOnTerms wrote:
whenever i get kdd and rooted i can always get back up





same here. Maybe you are thinking of stasis a jedi ability where you cannot do anything until you are attacked.
Marssk
Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:22 pm
#5






Anarchicgorilla wrote:

(with my droid doing 81 damage after armor)






no... NO! ANYTHING but that!!!



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Anarchicgorilla
Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:23 pm
#6


If jedi can heal... then ok my point was not to sploit but to stop it.



The jedi can KD/ Root..


If you recover before root your fine... if root goes on while KD'd your screwed and cannot kd recover...


This is cause jedi to macro kd/ root/...... i seen it on combat logs... every kd followed by root...





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Anarchicgorilla
Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:27 pm
#7






Marssk wrote:





Anarchicgorilla wrote:

(with my droid doing 81 damage after armor)






no... NO! ANYTHING but that!!!






Hey donot dis the droid lol...


i know 81 dmg is small... however it hits 15 x in 20 seconds.... so in 20 second canot kd recover that would be 1215 dmg just from droid.


yes the droid is not the "strike fear in the hearts" but its ticks are helpful.


This reply was ment to be fun... not flaming



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Algren_Earth-Stormer
Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:32 pm
#8






Anarchicgorilla wrote:


If jedi can heal... then ok my point was not to sploit but to stop it.



The jedi can KD/ Root..


If you recover before root your fine... if root goes on while KD'd your screwed and cannot kd recover...


This is cause jedi to macro kd/ root/...... i seen it on combat logs... every kd followed by root...







Never had this problem myself, and I have often rooted jedi while they were KDd, so I can say I have been on the recieving and giving end of these situations and not seen this bug yet.... so if it is there... it is new.


Just cause a couple jedi have rooted directly after a KD doesn't mean there is a macro running. Only way to know that is if you ask them nicely, and they tell you the truth..... or be a CSR and check his combat logs.



For future reference.... do NOT post exploits on open forums. Instead send a PM to every CSR, Dev, Corospondent you can think of.







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Anarchicgorilla
Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:37 pm
#9








Algren_Earth-Stormer wrote:





Anarchicgorilla wrote:


If jedi can heal... then ok my point was not to sploit but to stop it.



The jedi can KD/ Root..


If you recover before root your fine... if root goes on while KD'd your screwed and cannot kd recover...


This is cause jedi to macro kd/ root/...... i seen it on combat logs... every kd followed by root...







Never had this problem myself, and I have often rooted jedi while they were KDd, so I can say I have been on the recieving and giving end of these situations and not seen this bug yet.... so if it is there... it is new.


Just cause a couple jedi have rooted directly after a KD doesn't mean there is a macro running. Only way to know that is if you ask them nicely, and they tell you the truth..... or be a CSR and check his combat logs.



For future reference.... do NOT post exploits on open forums. Instead send a PM to every CSR, Dev, Corospondent you can think of.









Like I said--- I donot know if BH can do this.... this was the jedi's reply to me saying that since Bh can he wasnot doing an exploit.


It very well may be the BH cannot do this to jedi.


However Jedi can KD/root --- and if root hits before BH recovers it is free 20+ seconds worth of hits.


This to me seems like an exploit


And if devs read this and do something I would not post.... Do you think devs actualy fix stuff when you send them a issue...


It takes the entire community to make any kind of change.





Message Edited by Anarchicgorilla on 08-22-2005 03:39 PM



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Algren_Earth-Stormer
Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:43 pm
#10

okay... gimme 20 min to test and confirm this please.



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StoneRook1
Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:07 pm
#11

Hmm - i've kd/rooted alot and never saw this happen. Also have been kd and rooted - never saw it happen.


Are you sure your action wasn't below 25% when you were knockdown? if it is, you won't get back up. (jedi with root usually has sap- action regen is slowed)



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Anarchicgorilla
Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:14 pm
#12



StoneRook1 wrote:


Hmm - i've kd/rooted alot and never saw this happen. Also have been kd and rooted - never saw it happen.


Are you sure your action wasn't below 25% when you were knockdown? if it is, you won't get back up. (jedi with root usually has sap- action regen is slowed)





yeah i am sure.


The jedi even told me that he/she does it all the time.








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awentwor
Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:42 pm
#13

It's not really an exploit or a bug... as I've done it on both ends. What happens is that a Jedi can use force surpression and then KDa bounty hunter. If the bounty hunter was trying to do anything at the time of the KD (you got click happy), you get the *you cannot do that while kd*. You get that for every button you pressed (they got queued). If you have a default attack specified... it is adding to the stack. I think this is where the bug actually lies. You are pressing your KD recover... but it gets backlogged somehow.


I wouldn't say it's an exploit as every time I've encountered it or seen it... it was the receiver's actions that caused it.




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