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Thread: Jedi/ bh exploit.. devs please read

quitch
Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:52 pm
#14






MasterGettingOnTerms wrote:
whenever i get kdd and rooted i can always get back up





maybe he means stasis/KD?



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Vcardossk
Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:15 pm
#15

lol, you needa pay attention. THere are certian roots that prevent combat actions, kd recovry is a combat action.



Therefore if your hit with one of those roots while kd'd u can't get up. However all of the ones that do this break on attack i'm sure.





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quitch
Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:30 pm
#16

not sure if CM parylize breaks on combat though. doesnt seem to for me



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Anarchicgorilla
Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:52 pm
#17

This is the thing....


The KD? root is not supression.


Suppression and parlaze make no action possible ... but break on damage.



The combo is KD/Root


If clicking like above post said and you get jammmed....


This combo works for entire duraration of the root.... meaning it is a exploit of root.... root does not stop comabat actions



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Anarchicgorilla
Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:00 pm
#18






Vcardossk wrote:

lol, you needa pay attention. THere are certian roots that prevent combat actions, kd recovry is a combat action.



Therefore if your hit with one of those roots while kd'd u can't get up. However all of the ones that do this break on attack i'm sure.








The thing is this combo does not break on damage.... I have seen my combat log go 25 seconds (full health and buff crystal) while the jedi just attaked over and over.



This is with me doing kd recovery... stand.... /dump.... etc over and over.





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zRhyno
Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:09 pm
#19

I saw this happen to me for hte first time last night. It would leave me KD'ed for 20 seconds at a time, and it wouldnt even give me the cannot KDR while KD'ed.






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Sp4nky
Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:52 pm
#20



Anarchicgorilla wrote:

This is the thing....

The KD? root is not supression.

Suppression and parlaze make no action possible ... but break on damage.

The combo is KD/Root
If clicking like above post said and you get jammmed....
This combo works for entire duraration of the root.... meaning it is a exploit of root.... root does not stop comabat actions



You sir...are an idiot. Supression and paralyze have nothing to do with each other. And should not even be used in the same sentence.





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Algren_Earth-Stormer
Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:46 pm
#21

Sp4nky is correct... so let's clear a few things up first.


Force Suppression (just like stopping shot) roots you to the ground but you are able to attack.

Force Stasis (just like paralyze) roots you to the ground and you cannot do much other than heal, and it breaks on damage.


The "exploit" in question is when a Jedi KDs a BH and then roots him, and then is able to kill him while the BH cannot get up.


So, it must be force suppression that is being used......


that being said... sorry it took me more than 20 min to test this.


I tested this..... with a jedi... let him KD me, then suppress me.... we did it twice, both times I was able to get up just fine after he suppressed me (but I was ofcourse rooted).


I was NOT able to duplicate your symptoms.



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Eskie
Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:06 am
#22



quitch wrote:
not sure if CM parylize breaks on combat though. doesnt seem to for me




It does as soon as you take damage, same as Force Stasis. That is why all roots and snares in the Jedi trees inflict one point of damage.
Force Sap and any CM debuffs do not inflict damage however, so they can be applied without the Paralyze / Stasis breaking.



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Duffie
Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:09 am
#23

Only time this has ever happened to me is in places with heavy lag...



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Anarchicgorilla
Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:51 am
#24




yeah.. guess a combat log with 25 seconds of being kd'd with the message cannot kd recover while kd is just coicidence... (with /dump, stand, and every other posted way to recover tried)


Having it happen 2x vs the same jedi... and the jedi even saying he can do it... is more "glitch" hey,


The fact is there is a way a jedi can kd and (whatever root: suppression or stasis, perhaps combo of the two, maybe the order matters too) a bh and make them not be able to recover the entire root... and this does not break on any damage. = a dead duck


If your testing did not work... well then maybe it was the other root or different order... like I said I did not do it, but I know it works... have had it done to me 5 or 6 times


Told the jedi (who was really cool) yeah this happens against same templete everytime getting pattern...


Jedi says... there is a way to make it so you cannot KD recover during our entire root timer.


This was not an ass jedi... this was a jedi being honest about what he can do. However, he thought it was not a sploit though becuase he said BH with root can do it too.




Message Edited by Anarchicgorilla on 08-23-2005 12:03 PM



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mindspat
Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:00 am
#25






Anarchicgorilla wrote:

A jedi or Bh with root can do the following


kd jedi/bh put on root ... this will cause the defending player to not be able to kd recover thoughout the whole root. /dump stand nothing will override this


This can be over 20 seconds.


I have had 3 jedi today do the kd/root and watch as I cannot recover and the just attak for 20 seconds straight while I get cannot kd recover while kd.


I told the jedi it was sploit... jedi said pistols root can do it too. So it is not a sploit. The way I see this is a very unfair advantage.



If this is not a sploit let me now so I can grind pistols 0004 for a first strike kd/root--- then 20 seconds of free hits (with my droid doing 81 damage after armor)

If it is a sploit... needs to be fixed





I've done this to Necrosis. KD followed by Suppression locked him down for a good amount of time. I was not able to repeat it.




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Algren_Earth-Stormer
Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:05 am
#26


Okay... I hope you are making a CS ticket and a bug ticket when this happens.


Additionally, Take a screenie nest time this happens, with all the combat spam.





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