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look at this:
bh and jedi begin fight,blah blah ,then jedi is ___________(out of mind, low of health,etc. fill what you like), shhhhh +Cloak+ , and my opponent full of dots, staying in front of me and wait for regen/dropping dots,channel, or just opening drink in RL.......
i has about 47 min long fight yesterday,and my mark and i cant kill each other.
This skill is broken,its ruins game mechanics,and need to be fixed/nerfed (call it as you like)
1.increase entering cloak range (33-60m)
2.make longer cooldown
3.move it to master box
4.give bh ability to break cloak (with looong cooldown)
PS
and a last one
after fight begins and jedi goes cloaked,jedi have our "Alpha strike" ability
Unfortunately i have basic english,but i hope you catch my idea.

it's not a i win button, it's a get away button

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Virtuell wrote:

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Aeschyl wrote:

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master_nick wrote:
it's not a i win button, it's a get away button

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not when they use it for the first-strike ability

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You just want to take away an edge another profession has.

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/Agree

Nerfs - lightsabre - healer - defender -now whats left oh yer cloak too many jedi escaping is a big problem.

No disrespect to the poster, but

YAWN!

If it was an I WIN button, you'd be dead. You didnt die so he didnt win. Neither did you. Not all fights must have a victor. Live with it.

Actualy, lots of disrespect.

Message Edited by Calel_Haven on 09-07-2005 01:27 AM

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Calel_Haven wrote:

No disrespect to the poster, but

YAWN!

If it was an I WIN button, you'd be dead. You didnt die so he didnt win. Neither did you. Not all fights must have a victor. Live with it.

Actualy, lots of disrespect.

Message Edited by Calel_Haven on 09-07-2005 01:27 AM

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if i can't kill my opponent, then he(or she) win.
and another one - it's not only my problem, it's common.
PS
about "YAWN"
Farstar right?

Message Edited by Gillik on 09-07-2005 02:09 AM

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DarthFuse wrote:

if i can't kill my opponent, then he(or she) win.
and another one - it's not only my problem, it's common.
PS
about "YAWN"
Farstar right?

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Actually if he or she can't kill you either no one wins......If you can't take on the mission drop it and move on. This is one skill that few jedi have. Your problem is you can't stand not being god like in game. Now to prove my point let's go over you "ideas" to balance your cloak problem.

1.increase entering cloak range (33-60m)
2.make longer cooldown
3.move it to master box
4.give bh ability to break cloak (with looong cooldown)

Now you may noticed some things underlined because those are the key points in you "ideas". Notice people how every one of these

points give WadD111 the advantage. First increase range =he is most likely a riflemen giving him the option to spam kd shot to

prevent cloaking , also lairs and wild spawns are all over the place pending on where the jedi is. Either in city or in the feild

something is almost always within those ranges....how ironic he wants the range to be that far. Second Longer cool down , cloak

already recieved one....now he wants it longer so if he does happen to break cloak the person has no hope to re-apply it. Third Move

it to masters box.....ahhh the most general idea. Whats wrong with this idea? Nothing except for the fact that it makes for no

orignality in templates. Wadd more or less ran into someone that could use Force armor/Aura/ and cloak.....and this indierctly lowers

the chance for him to hunt a powers jedi...ironic again. Lastly give BH the ability to break cloak. well well well so you wanna hotkey

a cloak break ability ....i dont even need to make a valid point to tell anyone how stupid that would be. Thats like asking for a real life "I

WIN" button.....not gonna happen pal. These fixes are defiantly benifical here are the stats

1.increase entering cloak range (33-60m) Wadd 100% / Opponent 0%
2.make longer cooldown Wadd 100%/ Opponent 0 notice the pattern yet?
3.move it to master box Wadd 100% / Opponent oh what a surprise ZERO!
4.give bh ability to break cloak (with looong cooldown) This waste of words doesn't even deserve a review of stats...

You make real bounty hunters look bad......

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you dont understand me. "Balance" means:every action must have countermeasure.
Please tell me, in a bh-jedi aspect what countermeasure have cloak ability?
and a last one about "This is one skill that few jedi have" - it just about time.

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WaDD111 wrote:

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Calel_Haven wrote:

No disrespect to the poster, but

YAWN!

If it was an I WIN button, you'd be dead. You didnt die so he didnt win. Neither did you. Not all fights must have a victor. Live with it.

Actualy, lots of disrespect.

Message Edited by Calel_Haven on 09-07-200501:27 AM

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if i can't kill my opponent, then he(or she) win.
and another one - it's not only my problem, it's common.
PS
about "YAWN"
Farstar right?

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WaDD111 wrote:

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DarthFuse wrote:

if i can't kill my opponent, then he(or she) win.
and another one - it's not only my problem, it's common.
PS
about "YAWN"
Farstar right?

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Actually if he or she can't kill you either no one wins......If you can't take on the mission drop it and move on. This is one skill that few jedi have. Your problem is you can't stand not being god like in game. Now to prove my point let's go over you "ideas" to balance your cloak problem.

1.increase entering cloak range (33-60m)
2.make longer cooldown
3.move it to master box
4.give bh ability to break cloak (with looong cooldown)

Now you may noticed some things underlined because those are the key points in you "ideas". Notice people how every one of these

points give WadD111 the advantage. First increase range =he is most likely a riflemen giving him the option to spam kd shot to

prevent cloaking , also lairs and wild spawns are all over the place pending on where the jedi is. Either in city or in the feild

something is almost always within those ranges....how ironic he wants the range to be that far. Second Longer cool down , cloak

already recieved one....now he wants it longer so if he does happen to break cloak the person has no hope to re-apply it. Third Move

it to masters box.....ahhh the most general idea. Whats wrong with this idea? Nothing except for the fact that it makes for no

orignality in templates. Wadd more or less ran into someone that could use Force armor/Aura/ and cloak.....and this indierctly lowers

the chance for him to hunt a powers jedi...ironic again. Lastly give BH the ability to break cloak. well well well so you wanna hotkey

a cloak break ability ....i dont even need to make a valid point to tell anyone how stupid that would be. Thats like asking for a real life "I

WIN" button.....not gonna happen pal. These fixes are defiantly benifical here are the stats

1.increase entering cloak range (33-60m) Wadd 100% / Opponent 0%
2.make longer cooldown Wadd 100%/ Opponent 0 notice the pattern yet?
3.move it to master box Wadd 100% / Opponent oh what a surprise ZERO!
4.give bh ability to break cloak (with looong cooldown) This waste of words doesn't even deserve a review of stats...

You make real bounty hunters look bad......

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you dont understand me. "Balance" means:every action must have countermeasure.
Please tell me, in a bh-jedi aspect what countermeasure have cloak ability?
and a last one about "This is one skill that few jedi have" - it just about time.

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cloaks countermeasure is that if you keep inside 20m the jedi can not cloak. what counter does startleshot have?

Cloak's counter measure:

1. Huge force drain in crowded areas (runs out fast)A smart BH would track his mark and strike insuch a place.

2. Cant cloak in crowded areas. A smart BH would track his mark and strike in such a place.

3. Cant cloak if you stick on them like glue. /snare /root /KD /paralyse all allow you to stay toe to toe with the Jedi.

If you fail to do this, and he escapes, the fight didnt go your way, and you failed as a BH on this mission. You cant and shouldnt win em all. Dont cry, either wait till later when he's in a sticky situation, or go get a new mission. Stop wanting an I Win button yourself, it's very Ironic considering the subject heading. You want an I Win button against cloak.

Being a BH vs Jedi isnt about rushing in and attacking the moment you get a fix on his location, it's about stalking your prey until he's in a valnerable situation, or when you are able to turn the situation to your advantage.

If you want my honest oppintion, if you're coming up against cloakers and they're escaping, you simply need more practice and skill. Hunting Jedi should be a challenge, and that's all cloak makes it. If you can prevent a Jedi from cloaking, you win becuase you know he either cant defend against you well, or he cant do enough damage to beat your heals.

Just becuase you're not skilled doesnt mean you should come here and cry nerf. Your thread title is an Ironic fart and no one is taking you seriously becuase of it.

You got first strike FFS! USE IT! (btw, there is no counter to that!)

Edit: SHould add, in time when you gain more experience, you will get to know the Jedi who have and havent got cloak. Use /note to keep a record. If you pull a mark from the terms and you know he's got cloak, then you have just increased your chance of killing him significantly. Track him till he's in a crowded starport and attack. He wont cloak then, and if he does manage to find a spot to /cloak, he's outskilled you, simple as that.

It's getting very boring and frustrating reading threads from people who cry nerf and have quite frankly not even atempted to get the skills required.

Message Edited by Calel_Haven on 09-07-2005 03:13 AM

If a jedi runs and cloaks , I see that as a victory for a BH, the jedi had to flee to avoid death by your hands, therefore your the better more powerful person. Maybe you dont get the satisfaction of killing him and the 22Xk, but other than that you know this jedi can never kill you in a 1 on 1 becuase he is too weak.

I dont see a reason to nerf it because sooner or later jedi will become too easy to kill and we dont want that. We want a challenge and a cloaker is a challenge. They chose to sacrificemore powerful skills for that ability to be able to cloak so let um use it when they please. change your tactics , follow and stalk your prey , pounce when hes weak, root and destroy him.