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Thread: SamousNemo: Please clarify Is it supposed to 1 BH vs 1 Jedi or not ?
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Frag99
Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:50 pm
#1
Hiya Samous,
My guildmates and I love to hunt Jedi in groups. With some of these master defender templates its a heck of a fight with even 3 of us. I see alot of these Jedi claiming the devs intend for it to be 1 on 1 against Jedi and that we are EXPLOITING if we have more then one BH when we attack. Is this true? I am convinced that its not for the following reasons:
1. There are still 5 BH missions available on all Jedi...(I think there are 5)the best we have done is managed to get 3 on 1 by just pulling missions and throwing droids until we all got the same guy. Funny part is he was master defender and used water and everything else to get back to the starport and escape.....it was fun fight for sure 
2. Depending on template Jedi are > 1.5 times stronger then any BH template...even with Alpha Strike thats not a fair fight head on...of couse I am a big proponent of SNEAKY when hunting alone Its not a fair fight so more then 1 BH is the way to go.
Its not a fair fight so more then 1 BH is the way to go.3. It would have been incredibly easy to limit the missions to one BH. Its far simpler to code put the mission on the board take it off first time somebody picks it up, then trying to keep track of 5 people holding the mission and trying to pull it simultaneously. Since they didn't take the easy route, must mean they intend to allow up to 5 BH's to attack a single Jedi.
BTW we have been cooking up ideas on how to group BHs since the anonymous term thing came out. Some claim there is a way to get the same mission with multiple Bounty Hunters, my guild mates and I have tried everything....we are convinced there is no magic method that can be performed at the terminal. The only method isslinging droids over and over. If anyone knows one PM me . One decent idea is for one of us to create a chat channel and add trusted BHs to it. Then as we identify our targets we can compare namesand thenteam up where possible. This can be done now as anyone can create a private chat channel..we'll give it a shot and see how well it works. Its a good RP plan, a true global Bounty Hunter network.
. One decent idea is for one of us to create a chat channel and add trusted BHs to it. Then as we identify our targets we can compare namesand thenteam up where possible. This can be done now as anyone can create a private chat channel..we'll give it a shot and see how well it works. Its a good RP plan, a true global Bounty Hunter network.so....Samous if the devs intend it to be 1 vs 1 BH to Jedi why are there still multiple missions for a Jedi on the boards?
Looking forward to your answer!
Maalevolence
Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:55 pm
#2
jedi are 1.5 times stronger then one elite profession. if you are a double elite you are stronger then a jedi in techincal terms, i know that a tkm/msword/4000doc can take almost any jedi in a good fight if they know what they are doing. I've seen some bh's take out defenders in seconds, this game is 75% player skill. if you dont know what you are doing you wil lget beat
DanielDirem
Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:56 pm
#3
It wasn't intended to make it impossible for Bounty Hunters to group, just difficult and not really worth the time.
I'll tell you what SOE is doing, they are looking at the game they have built after 2 years and realizing that the introduction of Jedi, while kinda of a nice thing to aim for, has destroyed many aspect of the game, namely the GCW (aka Faction PvP). SOE needs to work on the FRS system, which is completely busted so that the Jedi will have more content among themselves and once that is fixed I think Bounty Hunters ability to hunt them will also be fixed, once we start seeing Guardians and maybe even MASTERS on server then will the day of 3 man BH teams come back.
Don't hold your breathe though its not coming for a year or so is my bet, last time I heard FRS was completely dead.
Maalevolence
Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:58 pm
#4
FRS is dead, only thing we got left is the Force progression titles which allow use to have those master and guardian titles, in council view you got those after achieving a high enough rank to be considered a guardian or master. but that wasnt your title on the council but you overall title to all jedi
skyfiiire
Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:27 am
#5
As far as the FRS being completely dead...I currently play on Test Center, and the FRS is active there still, even with Publish 24 active.
Wilkies
Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:49 am
#7
Hey ill tell you a little tale from yesterday. I went after a jedi in theed on the bloodfin server, he was overt and group with another guy who i didnt know at the time was a Master Squad Leader. I noticed some thing popping up on my bar a couple times. After i got killed i went back to my spatial and that MSL was doin his thing agianst me, u know rally, volley fire ect. ect. I asked a csr about this and they told me the game is working as intended. That same jedi also reported me for exploiting cause i picked his mission 3 times in one hour, I wouldnt of picked his missions if we had names on the terms, but no.....its a luck of the pick. Oh and there wasnt alot of imp jedi online then either, but they claim imp jedi was every where. Well jedi **edit** about 2 or 3 on 1, now they can have a sl grouped with them to help them. I dont care, just wished i knew about it sooner.
SamousNemo
Sat Oct 15, 2005 8:47 am
#8
Bounty combat is restricted to any Bounty Hunter with an active mission on a Jedi
No official announcement has been made regarding the use of "luck and determination" bymultiple hunters to get the same bounty
Nooffical distinction has been madebetween "luck and determination" and other methods to grab the same bounty
I really wish I had a more definitive response for this, but I'm still trying to get an answer myself
Frag99
Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:30 am
#9
SamousNemo wrote:
Bounty combat is restricted to any Bounty Hunter with an active mission on a Jedi
No official announcement has been made regarding the use of "luck and determination" bymultiple hunters to get the same bounty
Nooffical distinction has been madebetween "luck and determination" and other methods to grab the same bounty
I really wish I had a more definitive response for this, but I'm still trying to get an answer myself
Great! That sounds like a license to kill. Claims that the Dev's have stated it is to be 1 on 1 must be bogus. Now "other methods" that sounds interesting, like maybe other methods exist to get the same bounty lol Sorry Samous, when you can't be specific it allows for speculation ( I couldn't resist).....talk about Catch-22 huh....
Thanks for the reply!
Algren_Earth-Stormer
Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:37 am
#10
Maalevolence wrote:
jedi are 1.5 times stronger then one elite profession. if you are a double elite you are stronger then a jedi in techincal terms, i know that a tkm/msword/4000doc can take almost any jedi in a good fight if they know what they are doing. I've seen some bh's take out defenders in seconds, this game is 75% player skill. if you dont know what you are doing you wil lget beat
lmao, you are telling me that a full temp jedi is only 1.5 times stronger than a single mastery? Lay off the spice dude.
Frag99
Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:29 am
#11
Algren_Earth-Stormer wrote:
Maalevolence wrote:
jedi are 1.5 times stronger then one elite profession. if you are a double elite you are stronger then a jedi in techincal terms, i know that a tkm/msword/4000doc can take almost any jedi in a good fight if they know what they are doing. I've seen some bh's take out defenders in seconds, this game is 75% player skill. if you dont know what you are doing you wil lget beat
lmao, you are telling me that a full temp jedi is only 1.5 times stronger than a single mastery? Lay off the spice dude.
Yeah he does sound like a self-hating Jedi doesn't it.
SamousNemo
Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:33 am
#12
I understand completely, which is why I'd really like to see an offical comment from the Devs on this. All we can really do is speculate and leave it up to the CSRs to interpret
Frag99 wrote:
Great! That sounds like a license to kill. Claims that the Dev's have stated it is to be 1 on 1 must be bogus. Now "other methods" that sounds interesting, like maybe other methods exist to get the same bounty
Thanks for the reply!
EvilAztec
Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:55 am
#13
Clicky this if you want: http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=bounty_hunter&message.id=441383&view=by_date_ascending&page=1
Keld (a Dev)calling for 1v1 on the correspondent boards according to Tanks
I don't care anymore, as I'm just killing NPC's then sitting around chatting with friends, though your hate tells (from inexperienced hunters, especially the lazy ones who don't remember a time when droids didn't work AT ALL) wear thin. It's like you expect me to fight you. I have almost none now and will have none in the future. With the godly 2min ED snare, *yawn* I'd rather chat with my friends on one pc, and run my bh loot missions on the other (KVM's are great!).
Frag99 wrote:
Hiya Samous,
My guildmates and I love to hunt Jedi in groups. With some of these master defender templates its a heck of a fight with even 3 of us. I see alot of these Jedi claiming the devs intend for it to be 1 on 1 against Jedi and that we are EXPLOITING if we have more then one BH when we attack. Is this true? I am convinced that its not for the following reasons:
1. There are still 5 BH missions available on all Jedi...(I think there are 5)the best we have done is managed to get 3 on 1 by just pulling missions and throwing droids until we all got the same guy. Funny part is he was master defender and used water and everything else to get back to the starport and escape.....it was fun fight for sure
2. Depending on template Jedi are > 1.5 times stronger then any BH template...even with Alpha Strike thats not a fair fight head on...of couse I am a big proponent of SNEAKY when hunting alone
3. It would have been incredibly easy to limit the missions to one BH. Its far simpler to code put the mission on the board take it off first time somebody picks it up, then trying to keep track of 5 people holding the mission and trying to pull it simultaneously. Since they didn't take the easy route, must mean they intend to allow up to 5 BH's to attack a single Jedi.
Lazy does not equal intent. I guess that means if I do something they don't intend it's no longer an exploit. That must mean the cooldown timer bypass was intended. I could go on of course, to the point of logical absurdity, but you hopefully get the idea.
BTW we have been cooking up ideas on how to group BHs since the anonymous term thing came out. Some claim there is a way to get the same mission with multiple Bounty Hunters, my guild mates and I have tried everything....we are convinced there is no magic method that can be performed at the terminal. The only method isslinging droids over and over. If anyone knows one PM me
so....Samous if the devs intend it to be 1 vs 1 BH to Jedi why are there still multiple missions for a Jedi on the boards?
To prevent someone from grabbing their own mission late at night. Just like them you prove people will go to any lengths to get ahead or justify themselves.
Looking forward to your answer!
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