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Miqmac

Sat Jun 25, 2005 6:56 pm

Pretty sure that got your attention, now:

I write this after reading a post here about someone giving up trying to kill an afk jedi. I will preface this by letting everyone know that I am half Jedi. I unlocked pre-9 so my alt is a Jedi. He is full temp Master Def, Master Saber and healer 4040. .. Now my main is Master BH, Master Smuggler pistol 0004. I have played since launch and have earned every skill point that I have. I didBH the long wayjust like 27 other profs. (I did respec to BH. Smuggler recently because the option was there when I came back to the game and because those 2 where my favorite profs toplay.) I left the game only because I got so sick of trying to make up for lost exp on my jedi and was bored of my main (TKM, Shipwright, privateer 4443) wonder now if I would have stayed if I had actually exploited the powers/house thing or the geo caves. Was gone for 7 months (since launch of WOW) and came back only because I saw episode 3 opening day and got the bug. Low and behold when I got back I got a message saying that I had 21 days to switch my skills around. I didnt have to read the forums to see how this would be an easy way to finally finish my jedi. and to top it all off there was a

double experience thing happening. Well It took all of about 10 days to get a full template. (and dont think there arent bh/mr out there the same way).Wanna know how much PVP I have done since then......... NONE. I never played this game to pvp I bougth and played this game because on the cover of the box it said I could be a jedi. I though that was very cool and I went for it. Some people prefer to be BH, Some are BH because they think its the coolest prof in the game ,some people are BH only cause they dont have the time to put in all the effort to be a jedi and are a little envious. Other people are bh cause they are "Big Star Wars fans" and think that there arent supposed to be so many jedi in this time frame.. (guys its a game not a history book if it bothers you that much leave). Some people want nothing to do with either. I play jedi because I want to play jedi.. dont hate me for it.

I digress.....

I built the template because I enjoy pve content and hate pvp. this template is excellent for that purpose. I can handle almost any mob out there. I can not handle other jedi and any prolonged pvp due to lack of force management. But when It comes to forced pvp (1-1 type even 2/3 on 1 sometime) I normally wont fight back and will win through perserverance.

as a master defender master saber and healer 4040 I can run a force aura macro, a force valor macro and a force infusion macro. On the off chance that you manage to hit me its not likely that you can do enough damage and hit me often enough to outdamage my infusion macro. If you are solo you will not kill me if you have a friend you will likely not kill me 3 or more and maybe yes. even if you KD me and EVEN IF I AM AFK. The point is with my template and just those 3 macro's running I regen my force fast enough to keep it at 100%.

BUT DONT PANIC. I by no means have an I win button cause the truth is Its highly unlikely that I can kill you. I can not run those macro's and fight back at the same time this drains my force and once I am out of that I will die. so in fact I have i higher survivability rate if I just step away from the p.c. and watch. You will eventually get frustrated and bored and leave screaming nerf all the way home. But keep in mind not only did I not hurt you I am no threat to you or any other player really. SO LEAVE ME ALONE. and ask yourself why it is you play this game. In fact if you read the deadalus project (recent MMORG survey/study) you will see that over 10% of the people that play do so because they enjoy griefing other players. If you are one of those then get your gank squad and kill me over and over. If you are not a griefer then why exactly do you care what I am doing.?

The other reason I write this is because there is a serious lack of any valuable information on either BH boards or Jedi boards instead it is a list of rants and raves about each other. I came to these boards to learn about the CU changes to both (because I play both) and learned only that BH hate jedi and this causes jedi to hate BH and the cycle goes on.......

cid666

Sat Jun 25, 2005 7:08 pm

#2

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daz007

Sat Jun 25, 2005 7:21 pm

#3

cookie?

Neeo [

Can't do itanymore...

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Dark_World_Thorns

Sat Jun 25, 2005 7:31 pm

#4

KD + Bleed + Fire + Sniper Shot = Dead Jedi. Try AFKing that.

I don't care what your template is.

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Miqmac

Sat Jun 25, 2005 7:42 pm

#5

Ok so I guess we all know that Kalvin is one of the 10% ers. Not gonna argue about it. You try it out on that template and let me know how it went. You did completely miss the point of this thread though.

Narcoleptic_LTD

Sat Jun 25, 2005 8:18 pm

#6

Miqmac wrote:
Ok so I guess we all know that Kalvin is one of the 10% ers. Not gonna argue about it. You try it out on that template and let me know how it went. You did completely miss the point of this thread though.

not sure if he is, or isn't... but saying "you can't kill me even if I'm afk" is pretty much issuing a challenge to folks, and if they think they can do it and are cocky about it, they'll tell ya =)

I'd take your mission simply because you admit you can't really PvP well with your template, and won't fight back. If I could kill ya, it'd be an easy buck. I'm not actively hunting jedi, but if I start... it's for one simple reason... credits. Plenty of other ways to make those in the game too, so we'll see where I end up.

On the flip side, nice work on that template. Sounds like you thought it out well, and aren't exploiting anything to become "invincible." It's like saying "Um... No thanks bh" w/o dropping a house, or finding some LoS exploit that everyone (on both sides) keeps whining about. No one likes to be told 'No' ... I'd be laughing my ass off if it happened to myself, or if I saw someone else trying to kill you... and you just stood there afk not going down.

Question though...aremost of your defenses more avoidance/block? or mitigations?

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Jewlee Andrews
Master Bounty Hunter
Freelance Ace
- Ahazi

Miqmac

Sat Jun 25, 2005 8:28 pm

#7

You're right. I suppose it is a challenging statement. Suppose I should expect that kind or response. I hope most people get past that the minute they read the first line of the post.. the one about getting your attention as that is the only reason for the title of the thread. Perhaps I should change it.

Miqmac

Sat Jun 25, 2005 8:50 pm

#8

Miqmac wrote:
Ok so I guess we all know that Kalvin is one of the 10% ers. Not gonna argue about it. You try it out on that template and let me know how it went. You did completely miss the point of this thread though.

not sure if he is, or isn't... but saying "you can't kill me even if I'm afk" is pretty much issuing a challenge to folks, and if they think they can do it and are cocky about it, they'll tell ya =)

I'd take your mission simply because you admit you can't really PvP well with your template, and won't fight back. If I could kill ya, it'd be an easy buck. I'm not actively hunting jedi, but if I start... it's for one simple reason... credits. Plenty of other ways to make those in the game too, so we'll see where I end up.

On the flip side, nice work on that template. Sounds like you thought it out well, and aren't exploiting anything to become "invincible." It's like saying "Um... No thanks bh" w/o dropping a house, or finding some LoS exploit that everyone (on both sides) keeps whining about. No one likes to be told 'No' ... I'd be laughing my ass off if it happened to myself, or if I saw someone else trying to kill you... and you just stood there afk not going down.

Question though...aremost of your defenses more avoidance/block? or mitigations?

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I promise I will not run. I mean really. Why?.. It adds some excitement. But to clarify. I didnt mean say i couldnt PVP well with that template what I mean to say isI dont like to PVP. Because of that I will be the first to admit I suck at it. I handle content well (formerly with my melee stacker main char but now with my jedi).

as far as your question... "are most of your defenses more avoidance/block? or mitigations?" funny. the answer is yes.

I have my fs skills all in defense and melee combat. so my defenses are @255 both (dontknow exact I am at work right now but they are between 230-270). and with MLS My saber block is nice and high. that is without the macro's. +70 innate jedi armor (about 7k armor give or take).

force aura adds 500 defense to each effectively putting me at 750+ ranged and melee def.

Valor gives me another +25 LS block (and we all know how well LS block works.. funny as hell when I run accross a patrol of ST. bolts flying everywhere).

so the extremely high defense makes it real hard to get hit and if I am hit it reduces a good amount of the damage. (defense does both evasion and mitigation). Of course the def only comes into play if you get past my saber block. And then if you get past the block and the defense whatever is left gets mitigated even more by my inate jedi armor.force infusion 2 heals me every 4 seconds for 250 damage. It is not often that I get hit for more than that. Takes just a whole lot of luck on the attacker. The best part is that all those defenses work when standing and when knocked down. Dot's are annoying and sometimes I can outheal them with infusion and sometimes not. I can regen force slowly with these macros but not enough to go offensive. If the dots get to be to much I do have that 1500point heal for cost really. and If I just want you to quit sooner I will throw a sap on you just to increase the frustration and likely hood that you go away. If you dont go and you kill me... Oh well it happens you wont hear me screaming and crying. In fact I will most likely congratulate you and ask you for advice (being that I do like to play bh as well).

anyhow I am planing on being online after midnight (eastern) and will gladly stand there with you to let you try out whatever tactics you want.. they may or may not be effective but thats cool either way.

IGN is Mi'qmac and currently on coronet

Tanks

Sat Jun 25, 2005 8:59 pm

#9

Miqmac wrote:

.....But keep in mind not only did I not hurt you I am no threat to you or any other player really. SO LEAVE ME ALONE. and ask yourself why it is you play this game. In fact if you read the deadalus project (recent MMORG survey/study) you will see that over 10% of the people that play do so because they enjoy griefing other players. If you are one of those then get your gank squad and kill me over and over. If you are not a griefer then why exactly do you care what I am doing.?

Well, if a BH pulls your mission from the terminals he will try to kill you. It has nothing to do with griefing. Of course, you seem to equate BH bounties with griefing.

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OhBuggah

Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:12 pm

#10

Miqmac wrote:

as a master defender master saber and healer 4040 I can run a force aura macro, a force valor macro and a force infusion macro. On the off chance that you manage to hit me its not likely that you can do enough damage and hit me often enough to outdamage my infusion macro. If you are solo you will not kill me if you have a friend you will likely not kill me 3 or more and maybe yes. even if you KD me and EVEN IF I AM AFK. The point is with my template and just those 3 macro's running I regen my force fast enough to keep it at 100%.

LOL. Don't try that in front of me AFK.

Fire DoT, Poison DoT, Bleed DoT, Non-CH Pet Attack (every bit helps), Deuterium Pyro, Sniper Shot, KD, Advance Crit, Head Shot, ... Rinse/Repeat.

That macro you have there is not invulnerable, especially if I'm sippin' on Pyro. I've killed many arrogant AFK Jedi with your template like this.

Narcoleptic_LTD

Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:14 pm

#11

Miqmac wrote:

Miqmac wrote:
Ok so I guess we all know that Kalvin is one of the 10% ers. Not gonna argue about it. You try it out on that template and let me know how it went. You did completely miss the point of this thread though.

not sure if he is, or isn't... but saying "you can't kill me even if I'm afk" is pretty much issuing a challenge to folks, and if they think they can do it and are cocky about it, they'll tell ya =)

I'd take your mission simply because you admit you can't really PvP well with your template, and won't fight back. If I could kill ya, it'd be an easy buck. I'm not actively hunting jedi, but if I start... it's for one simple reason... credits. Plenty of other ways to make those in the game too, so we'll see where I end up.

On the flip side, nice work on that template. Sounds like you thought it out well, and aren't exploiting anything to become "invincible." It's like saying "Um... No thanks bh" w/o dropping a house, or finding some LoS exploit that everyone (on both sides) keeps whining about. No one likes to be told 'No' ... I'd be laughing my ass off if it happened to myself, or if I saw someone else trying to kill you... and you just stood there afk not going down.

Question though...aremost of your defenses more avoidance/block? or mitigations?

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I promise I will not run. I mean really. Why?.. It adds some excitement. But to clarify. I didnt mean say i couldnt PVP well with that template what I mean to say isI dont like to PVP. Because of that I will be the first to admit I suck at it. I handle content well (formerly with my melee stacker main char but now with my jedi).

as far as your question... "are most of your defenses more avoidance/block? or mitigations?" funny. the answer is yes.

I have my fs skills all in defense and melee combat. so my defenses are @255 both (dontknow exact I am at work right now but they are between 230-270). and with MLS My saber block is nice and high. that is without the macro's. +70 innate jedi armor (about 7k armor give or take).

force aura adds 500 defense to each effectively putting me at 750+ ranged and melee def.

Valor gives me another +25 LS block (and we all know how well LS block works.. funny as hell when I run accross a patrol of ST. bolts flying everywhere).

so the extremely high defense makes it real hard to get hit and if I am hit it reduces a good amount of the damage. (defense does both evasion and mitigation). Of course the def only comes into play if you get past my saber block. And then if you get past the block and the defense whatever is left gets mitigated even more by my inate jedi armor.force infusion 2 heals me every 4 seconds for 250 damage. It is not often that I get hit for more than that. Takes just a whole lot of luck on the attacker. The best part is that all those defenses work when standing and when knocked down. Dot's are annoying and sometimes I can outheal them with infusion and sometimes not. I can regen force slowly with these macros but not enough to go offensive. If the dots get to be to much I do have that 1500point heal for cost really. and If I just want you to quit sooner I will throw a sap on you just to increase the frustration and likely hood that you go away. If you dont go and you kill me... Oh well it happens you wont hear me screaming and crying. In fact I will most likely congratulate you and ask you for advice (being that I do like to play bh as well).

anyhow I am planing on being online after midnight (eastern) and will gladly stand there with you to let you try out whatever tactics you want.. they may or may not be effective but thats cool either way.

IGN is Mi'qmac and currently on coronet

well I suck at PvP as well... not to mention my machine sucks so I lag like crazy anyhow. probably won't bother with hunting jedi marks till I finish the new box. the target practice sounds like it'd be fun though =P You may be in coronet, but I'm currently at work.

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Jewlee Andrews
Master Bounty Hunter
Freelance Ace
- Ahazi

Miqmac

Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:44 am

#12

TANKS Wrote:

Miqmac wrote:

.....But keep in mind not only did I not hurt you I am no threat to you or any other player really. SO LEAVE ME ALONE. and ask yourself why it is you play this game. In fact if you read the deadalus project (recent MMORG survey/study) you will see that over 10% of the people that play do so because they enjoy griefing other players. If you are one of those then get your gank squad and kill me over and over. If you are not a griefer then why exactly do you care what I am doing.?

Well, if a BH pulls your mission from the terminals he will try to kill you. It has nothing to do with griefing. Of course, you seem to equate BH bounties with griefing.

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No Tiggs. I do not equate BH bouties with griefing. I know its a very long post and maybe you did not read all of them and thats understandable. I EXPECT BH to take my mission and come after me. Even though the only "showing off" I ever do is to wear my robes and carry my saber in public only so that I am not defensless when attacked. I also said (and as a matter of fact as we speak I am playing it). I have a MBH as my MAIN character. I do not enjoy griefing, its not why I play. Although I normally use my BH for pve (npc) I too will look for a mission on an arrogant jedi mainly cause they give us a bad name.

What I do consider griefing is a group of 5 BH ambushing a jedi who has never done anything to offend anyone other than be out in the middle of no-where with his group playing content and trying to earn some credits. Or when one BH gets your mission begins sending insulting tells (these are the ones that I am convinced are just envious) kills you, spits on you then takes your mission again as soon as he can. Really if he/she were not grieving they would not specifically target the same jedi over and over and if they cant beat that jedi they should call it a day not look for a group of BH with the same mission.

And for everyone else THE TITLE SAYS "YOU CAN'T KILL ME" just to get your attention. If you read past the first statement you will read how much I dont PVP well. This post was in part because someone had posted how they gave up a mark because they could not kill them and they were AFK. If he was on ahazi I may have thought it was just me. I just wanted to explain why I intentionally try to set myself up so that even afk I am a difficult mark to kill (read not opponent because those fight back).

I dont care what you say, jedi initially was not an agreement to PVP. It became that with visibility and bounties but it didnt start that way. I always wanted jedi and never wanted PVP and it was originally set up that way. I wanted (and still do) to play jedi cause I think it looks cool and thats it. I am a wookiee jedi and was before pub 9. That was when jedi could wear armor and wookies could not. If I created it to pvp dont you think I would have been the typical zabrak?

Either way. Just trying trying to voice a little bit of my opinion forum and figured since 50% of the posts say something about jedi I have more of an audience posting here.

I am surprised Tanks that being a correspondent you are not a little more detail oriented. The part about "you seem to equate BH bounties with griefing" is a little ignorant really based on one or two sentences of such a long post. You know who takes small bits of information and turns it around to look like a whine or an argument... flamers. really didnt expect to see the BH correspondent doing such things. embarrasing.

The_Widowmaker

Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:52 am

#13

I like this thread a lot...but I am just here to correct a bit of misinformation.

The original hype behind the game WAY back 2 years ago WAS that Bounty hunters would be able to hunt Jedi. I promise you, player bounties was one of the main reason I bought this game.

I would like to see it that once you are CL80 you can have a PLAYER bounty put on you...but too many ways to exploit that....so no point.

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