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Thread: XP loss is a nessesity ( this is coming from a LOW LVL PADDY)

Volleva-Corbantis
Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:45 pm
#1


this is an opinion post, PLEASE KEEP ALL INPUT POSITIVE (you can disagree just dont make this a verbal war)


k, well, i am a paddy, so i still experience BH coming and whopping my ass, and i still have about 5.8 mil XP till my completed temp. oh and as far as BH encouters, im 0/4 ( 3/4 i was taking a wee-wee but i dont blame them, i was only mad cuz i didnt get a chance to fight them and see if i wouldve stood a chance)


so to the opinion...

i think that XP loss is a nessesary part of this game. ive been reading the BH and jedi boards alot, and i noticed alot of people complaining about howwhen a paddy beats a BH he gets nothing, no XP nothing, but when a BH beats a paddy, he gets the bounty and the xp.

the cold truth is that as jedi, we are SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE HARD LIFE. although its true that jedi are no longer the power houses that they used to be, and peeple will say that the grind aint worh it, then leave the grind and the BH encounters to those who want to experience it and are willing to put up with these hardships to become a full-temp jedi cuz that is almost ecry star wars fans dream.


ALTHOUGH i think thatXP loss is nessecary, i think that a padawan deserves some sort of reward for killing his BH (i realize this could lead right back to Fight clubs). I contemplated several different rewards, and a larger XP reward is out of the question, (fight clubs, cheaters) or a money reward (fight clubs again). so i thought that if a paddy defeats their BH they should recieve....


drumroll....


nothing. They get the reward of keeping their own hard earned XP ( which nowadays in my opinion isnt that hard to earn, 1hour of non stop grinding and ull have around anywhere between 200-400k XP) i realize that this is slightly unfair to jedi, (hey im a jedi so dont shoot me down here) but its nessecary cuz, back to my previous point, we are supposed to have the hard life.... thanks to the damn emporer with his order 66


well anyway, i realize that almost evry jedi is screaming traitor at this point


o and im putting this on BH forums 2 so that i can get both opinions.



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Cpl_Fisher
Mon Jul 04, 2005 1:54 am
#2


you get pvp rating



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Jedi244
Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:14 am
#3

Yes but you are forgetting, as jedi we are supposed to be able to pwn Bounty Hunters, or pretty much anyone else. Since that isn't the case, they need to make things easier on Jedi. It would help alleviate the animosity between the two profs.
MrLeStat
Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:15 am
#4






Jedi244 wrote:
Yes but you are forgetting, as jedi we are supposed to be able to pwn Bounty Hunters, or pretty much anyone else. Since that isn't the case, they need to make things easier on Jedi. It would help alleviate the animosity between the two profs.





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DATA-LUX
Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:37 am
#5

Your idea is not too bad but you missed one point... at Jedi you can get negative XP where no other prof can get... if that wasn't there many Jedis will agree with you but not atm




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Cphopp
Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:07 am
#6

been thinking....I wouldn't object to having no negative xp....when you kill a bounty they just drop down to 0...hehe those million+ boxes would sure hurt to lose =0...o and of course a jedi nerf comes along with this =0 being that they're easier to get then lol



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Camelz
Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:28 am
#7

I ttoally agree with the OP, xp loss is an essential game dynamic.


Xp loss is the ONLY difficulty facing a grinding Padi. Without it every Bol grinder in the Galaxy will be a full template Jedi 2 weeks after unlocking.


Jedi is devalued enough as it is without opening the floodgates even more. The problem is that every Padi says "Yes Jedi should be special, and yes it should be hard to get AFTER I GOT MINE"


BTW replying to the post that Jedi should be "Pwning" everyone - my reply is "Not while you are a youngling". When you have a full template and reach knight (if the FRS ever comes back), then fine you can be uber if you want, but while you are the game's equivilant of a 5 year old waving a neon tube then you should sux (and to be honest a lot do).


Why do none of the Padis accept that Jedi is a PvP oriented profession until they fill their template? The ones that suck at PvP will take longer to do the grind than the ones that can actuallyplay their profession, that is by design. That is why you lose xp, the game is saying to you "You are not good enough at PvP to advance any further right now, (in fact you sux so we are taking some xp off you)".


And the new wave of "PvE only Jedi", well dont even start me on that one (I will just say to those Jedi - Grind ranger or something you n0000000000bs)


/rant off


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MrDoppa
Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:30 am
#8

Fact is, negative xp doesn't stop many people from eventually reaching full temp anyway. Just frustrates the unlucky. I like the idea of dropping to 0 at the most. Even a little negative ain't such a bad idea. But -10 mil is ridiculous. I dont think the issue of the xp loss is the primary issue. It's just something that adds on top of getting shot in the back of the head. Of course, it's part of being a jedi. But the investment to unlock alone is ridiculous enough to cause many people to want something a little better after the village is over.


A good idea is this. If the jedi is negative, put a timer where he will gain 250k back on his negative xp after 2 weeks. this might help greatly in reducing the amount of jedi seen at anyone time where alot of jedi will prob not even log in and wait out the time period.


just the beginnings of a thought though. a sort of time penelty that will discourage play or something.





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Showdown_UK
Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:45 am
#9

It would be a good idea for them to cap the -xp to 1 or 2 mil 10 mil dept is not right.. how did you get 10mil are you a AFK grinder?????



I agree jedi should get exp dept that is undisputed as it being a MMOG, as I am a jedi ATM. The reason I get killed by #BH too easily is because i don't know what food's and drinks are the best to have or what suits my temp.



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Okiv
Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:11 am
#10

Anyone saying Jedi should be able to pwn BHs has it wrong.


I agree that you should, but the fact that you outnumber us on many servers kind of dilutes the point.



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Announcerharris
Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:01 am
#11






EvaBrurikaen wrote:






Volleva-Corbantis wrote:


this is an opinion post, PLEASE KEEP ALL INPUT POSITIVE (you can disagree just dont make this a verbal war)


k, well, i am a paddy, so i still experience BH coming and whopping my ass, and i still have about 5.8 mil XP till my completed temp. oh and as far as BH encouters, im 0/4 ( 3/4 i was taking a wee-wee but i dont blame them, i was only mad cuz i didnt get a chance to fight them and see if i wouldve stood a chance)


so to the opinion...

i think that XP loss is a nessesary part of this game. ive been reading the BH and jedi boards alot, and i noticed alot of people complaining about howwhen a paddy beats a BH he gets nothing, no XP nothing, but when a BH beats a paddy, he gets the bounty and the xp.

the cold truth is that as jedi, we are SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE HARD LIFE. although its true that jedi are no longer the power houses that they used to be, and peeple will say that the grind aint worh it, then leave the grind and the BH encounters to those who want to experience it and are willing to put up with these hardships to become a full-temp jedi cuz that is almost ecry star wars fans dream.


ALTHOUGH i think thatXP loss is nessecary, i think that a padawan deserves some sort of reward for killing his BH (i realize this could lead right back to Fight clubs). I contemplated several different rewards, and a larger XP reward is out of the question, (fight clubs, cheaters) or a money reward (fight clubs again). so i thought that if a paddy defeats their BH they should recieve....


drumroll....


nothing. They get the reward of keeping their own hard earned XP ( which nowadays in my opinion isnt that hard to earn, 1hour of non stop grinding and ull have around anywhere between 200-400k XP) i realize that this is slightly unfair to jedi, (hey im a jedi so dont shoot me down here) but its nessecary cuz, back to my previous point, we are supposed to have the hard life.... thanks to the damn emporer with his order 66


well anyway, i realize that almost evry jedi is screaming traitor at this point


o and im putting this on BH forums 2 so that i can get both opinions.





When Double XP is gone, and your 10 million XP in the hole, and cannot gain anymore skills till you grind out of the holethen come back and post this thread.


The Jedi/BH issue is one of risk vs reward.

as it stands now Jedi rewards have been reduced while the risk stays the same.


Once things get balanced out then the picture will be more clear.







You are kidding, right? You realize that it is now easier than ever to complete a Jedi template, right?





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EvaBrurikaen
Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:01 am
#12






Announcerharris wrote:




You are kidding, right? You realize that it is now easier than ever to complete a Jedi template, right?






With double XP yes. But it in only around till tomorrow.




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Gillik
Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:33 am
#13






Okiv wrote:

Anyone saying Jedi should be able to pwn BHs has it wrong.


I agree that you should, but the fact that you outnumber us on many servers kind of dilutes the point.





I pwn a lvl 69 bh easily at lvl 76. But all the others were actually experienced enough to kill me. Saying that any noob jedi/bh should easily killa more experiencedjedi/bh is just wrong. It should take skill to take down either. Just my 2 cents on it.






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