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Thread: Jedi BH Mission = IMPOSSIBLE! *nearly* ATT: DEVS/SOE!

JorahnL
Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:33 am
#1

I recently finished my BH template... I am MBH / MPistoleer / CM 4xxx. I would like to think that should be a sound Template... HOWEVER.... I have yet to win against a Jedi that wasn't basically a newly acquired Jedi toon of Low CL.... Now. The problem arises that There's no way to tell what level Jedi you are hunting anymore. If they're even CLOSE to full Template, you might as well abort and try again, cuz it's IMPOSSIBLE to win. I have a good Template and awesome gear on my BH toon. I carry a High-Cap Scatter max sliced for PVP and wear Ubese Recon which is 4k Kinetic / 8k Energy / 6k all other stats. I usually get FULL doc buffs, and have a kickazz combo of Food/drink, etc... I am toast in 1 second against Full Temp Jedi and even those that are close, can pwn me. Something needs to be done to balance things out. I'm not saying take things away from Jedi, but give the BH something more! We're dying here! It's not even close! Plus the /duel exploit/bug is hurting something terrible too. That's my 2-cents worth.... PLEASE, SOE! HELP!.






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klognok
Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:42 am
#2


read the sticky.It has lots of good tips.jedi are not as hard as you make them out to be.It's just a matter of practice.


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whitethunder
Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:43 am
#3

ur amrour is fullly 75% AB sliced?? thats usually the problem

-Drakkahn-
Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:56 am
#4

I agree..stay vigilant. It does sound like you have things in order however tactics are a key part as well. Not saying you dont have the right tactics..just saying in general. As far as the balance goes....I really enjoy it atm. I think that BHs have more than a chance against a jedi almost to the point where I almost feel sorry for those lightsaber weilding folks.





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Mythrindir
Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:59 am
#5

1.) kite. don't just stand there.


2.) ab slice your armour.


3.) keep them away from you when possible. root is your friend with mpistols


4.) have stims and ruby for when you're kd'd.


5.) get a featherweight FWG5. better stats than the scatter pistol. also, make sure its krayt or (preferably) power cell enhanced.


6.) min dmg>all. max damage hardly matters.





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Frostiy
Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:00 am
#6

Maby it's just master pistols? I don't know many of them so I don't know how sucessful it is. Try another proffesion because I can kill some full template jedi.



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Frostiy Twofivetwo
Frostiy
Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:01 am
#7

Also, ubese isn't very good against kinetic defense. Try getting some crafted bh or R.I.S?




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Mythrindir
Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:37 am
#8






Frostiy wrote:
Also, ubese isn't very good against kinetic defense. Try getting some crafted bh or R.I.S?







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Andlo Homan
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blue-phoenix
Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:17 am
#9



Frostiy wrote:
Also, ubese isn't very good against kinetic defense. Try getting some crafted bh or R.I.S?







ROFL!!!!! sorry couldn't help it...



to the OP
but yeah unless your armor is AB sliced you could have the best armor around but you would still go down in no time.. that will be the only way to take down a jedi with a pre-cu saber or a matching post-cu one. Or you could go rifleman and try to go for the 1 hit kills.

to be honest the key to killing jedi is AB slice and decent healing.. all you really need the rest you could probably be using a cdef pistol and just wait for force to go down..



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wildcat84
Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:55 am
#10

If you can't defeat pre-CU knights with this template WITHOUT ARMOR, or even that great of a weapon... I'd consider another profession. Seriously.

You can snare and root to the point where a lightsaber based Jedi should never be able to get close enough to get more than a couple hits in every once in awhile, which your superior Holy Combat Necromancer heals will easily overcome (especially with enahncers, but again, not really required). All you have to do is constantly snare/root (you can keep a snare or a root on almost constantly), make sure the DoT's are applied, and wait for us to heal our force bar out.

It's really very VERY easy. Did I mention that winning with this template is ridiculously easy?

I've switched to something very close to this template myself on my BH alt, with the idea of avenging my Jedi by griefing the opposite faction. Which is what hunting with this template more or less is with the ubersnare.

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Quikgoner
Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:29 am
#11

AB slice isnt necessary, i go around with the lowest AB slice since i got my RIS decay sliced. My template is almost identical to yours except I have master carbines. I have killed quite a few jedi, failing a total of 3 marks (after my dramatic template change to carbines.) My advice would be to make sure you are ahead in healing and that mind is maintained, also keep handy synthysteak and maybe parwan if things get nasty or the jedi starts to bail (its hard to snare/root those with aura/valor) And like someone said above: dont just sit there, KITE! I find its best to use an action PUP but i like speed pups for the defenders as it gives them less time to realise they have to heal.



Sorry for the lack of paragraphing





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acmtalk
Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:32 am
#12






JorahnL wrote:

I recently finished my BH template... I am MBH / MPistoleer / CM 4xxx. I would like to think that should be a sound Template... HOWEVER.... I have yet to win against a Jedi that wasn't basically a newly acquired Jedi toon of Low CL.... Now. The problem arises that There's no way to tell what level Jedi you are hunting anymore. If they're even CLOSE to full Template, you might as well abort and try again, cuz it's IMPOSSIBLE to win. I have a good Template and awesome gear on my BH toon. I carry a High-Cap Scatter max sliced for PVP and wear Ubese Recon which is 4k Kinetic / 8k Energy / 6k all other stats. I usually get FULL doc buffs, and have a kickazz combo of Food/drink, etc... I am toast in 1 second against Full Temp Jedi and even those that are close, can pwn me. Something needs to be done to balance things out. I'm not saying take things away from Jedi, but give the BH something more! We're dying here! It's not even close! Plus the /duel exploit/bug is hurting something terrible too. That's my 2-cents worth.... PLEASE, SOE! HELP!.








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Orthell
Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:42 am
#13



JorahnL wrote:

I recently finished my BH template... I am MBH / MPistoleer / CM 4xxx. I would like to think that should be a sound Template... HOWEVER.... I have yet to win against a Jedi that wasn't basically a newly acquired Jedi toon of Low CL.... Now. The problem arises that There's no way to tell what level Jedi you are hunting anymore. If they're even CLOSE to full Template, you might as well abort and try again, cuz it's IMPOSSIBLE to win. I have a good Template and awesome gear on my BH toon. I carry a High-Cap Scatter max sliced for PVP and wear Ubese Recon which is 4k Kinetic / 8k Energy / 6k all other stats. I usually get FULL doc buffs, and have a kickazz combo of Food/drink, etc... I am toast in 1 second against Full Temp Jedi and even those that are close, can pwn me. Something needs to be done to balance things out. I'm not saying take things away from Jedi, but give the BH something more! We're dying here! It's not even close! Plus the /duel exploit/bug is hurting something terrible too. That's my 2-cents worth.... PLEASE, SOE! HELP!.






The /duel has been fixed btw. Honestly, it's your skills thats killing you. Today, it is too easy for a halfway decent BH to take a Jedi down. I know several BH that RARELY ever loose with the same templates. SOE has already nerfed the heck out of us and made it so we almost just stand there and die for a BH, so no more power or nerfing is needed at this point.

I see alot of replies already mentioning strategies, so I won't bother repeating them. And it's easy to tell if a Jedi is full template or not. MOST will be full template since the group viz changes. If they aren't CL80, then obviously they aren't a full template. But CL80 doesn't always mean full. I carried alot of rifle skills as a CL80 Jedi untill I replaced them with other skills. I sort of miss that, because it was fun when the first BH tried to kite me, and he called me an exploiter for carrying a rifle.







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