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Thread: AFK grinding fact.

Dodece
Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:12 am
#1

I see alot of posts on AFK grinding and I just thought might aswell lay down the smack about it. I know this will come as a shock to everyone but here it goes.


AFK combat macroing is an exploit its also against eula though be it poorly enforced. There are only a couple afk macros that are legitimate and combat isnt one of them. Here are the two that the devs said they were okay with, and yes they said at one point afk spamming macros were being looked at to be blocked.


Sampleing macro artisans can do a sampleing macro because there is really no point to make someone sit and watch as they get 5 units of something at a time.


Entertainer macros likewise no point to make someone sit and watch for hours on end.


AFK combat macros are exploits for the following reasons its intended for a player to actually be at the keyboard to fight. This is part of why a level system is in place in the game now. So that people cannot get fantastic xp killing weak stuff that presents no real danger. You want further proof go to the temple of the blueleaf on yavin anyone who macroed in there a ways back knows you used to be able to just stand on a overhang or on the ramp and blast away safely for hours now the creatures warp up to you to fight. Next on the list is players doing it for easy cred and low level loot like the afk guys who killed meatlumps for hours on end. The net result was and is that lowlevel garbage now gives next to nothing in the way of loot not sure if they have loot anymore and merely pocket change.


Just kind of tired of its kinda cheap arguments and your my content. This is not the main point afk combat macros are exploits they are useing game mechanics for unintended purposes. The devs have been working pretty hard to make this much harder. Breaking ranged roosts. Devalueing weak spawns, and the implmentations of content for entertainers and artisans that give good xp for active play.
SYNBAD
Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:24 am
#2

Yea, show me the post from the devs that says any of what you just said.


Proof please!!



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Va-Mei
Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:25 am
#3

Unfortunatly, AFK play is not against the eula, and is not considered an explot by SOE. The Entertainers
have been fighting that fight, and loosing badlyfor 2 years now. Players have been fighting to have the macro-tainers, buff-bots, loot-bots, scout-bots, SL-bots, Combat-bots & AFK grinder removed from the game for a good long time now. We've claimed thay they made our professions invalid, made it impossible to get acccess to content, violated anti-spam rules, all to no avail. SOE has said time and again that AFK play is against the spirit of the game and they're close to removing it, but it's still here and they've done little or nothing to stop it. Once in a while they'll spawn a nasty near an afk group, but that's about it.


Get mad about it if you like, but it's been here for a long time, and I seriously doubt that's going to change any time soon.
GlargTheKelfn
Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:25 am
#4



SYNBAD wrote:
Yea, show me the post from the devs that says any of what you just said.
Proof please!!




in game, ctrl-h, known issues. read it.

go look the dev posts if you want to see it in red.




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\ 324, -3627 - Outside Coronet /
\ -Servants of Hastur Outlet- /

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Fallak
Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:36 am
#5

I dont see any more reason to sit and watch 5 units of sample material than to sit and kill a silly creatures over and over. Grinding sucks ATK & AFK in this game. All profession leveling should be done via quests like the Jedi Village quests and trials.



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GlargTheKelfn
Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:45 am
#6

from the holocron in game:
Is AFK macroing OK?
Yes it is. Beware though, not all areas of the galaxie are as safe as they seem.

straight from in game. i would say that is the afk grinding fact of the day.

anyone looking for it, go in game, hit ctrl-h, frequently asked questions, then under gameplay.




\ Shuggoth's Sugar Shack of Loot /
\ 324, -3627 - Outside Coronet /
\ -Servants of Hastur Outlet- /

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RIP All of the above 07.13.03 - 03.20.06
Killed by poor gameplay and developer mismanagment

miodac
Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:47 am
#7

Ok ill bite ill give you a simple example of why AFK playing sucks. I will change the names to protect the parties involved.


Bob the Armoursmith runs out Woolamander bones and not being in a guild has to ask around his mates to get someone to collect some of them. He finally finds someone to make the drive over to the woolamander temple which as those who go there will know is quite some drive over annoying terrain.


When Fred Friend finally arrives he finds Ignoamus the novice TKM for PowerGaming-INC guild sitting on the harrower spawn point grinding away and despite multiple tells gets no response (AFK is on)


Sad not to be able to help his friend he notifies him of the problem and heads back home, this procedure is repeated on no less than 3 occasions each time a different member of the same guild is grinding at the self same spot, in the end Fred gives up and Bob can no longer make RIS armour at reasonable prices.






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GlargTheKelfn
Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:50 am
#8



miodac wrote:

Ok ill bite ill give you a simple example of why AFK playing sucks. I will change the names to protect the parties involved.

Bob the Armoursmith runs out Woolamander bones and not being in a guild has to ask around his mates to get someone to collect some of them. He finally finds someone to make the drive over to the woolamander temple which as those who go there will know is quite some drive over annoying terrain.

When Fred Friend finally arrives he finds Ignoamus the novice TKM for PowerGaming-INC guild sitting on the harrower spawn point grinding away and despite multiple tells gets no response (AFK is on)

Sad not to be able to help his friend he notifies him of the problem and heads back home, this procedure is repeated on no less than 3 occasions each time a different member of the same guild is grinding at the self same spot, in the end Fred gives up and Bob can no longer make RIS armour at reasonable prices.






fred and bob need to group and outdamage the other guy. simple really. unless they are jedi, then they can never outdamage anyone unless they have pre cu sabers


seriously, afk killing, which some of you might find distasteful, is legal, allowed and there are ways around any prob with one person hogging the spawn. report it to a csr, let them drop some cl500 sentinals, and then no one uses he spot till server reset.




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\ 324, -3627 - Outside Coronet /
\ -Servants of Hastur Outlet- /

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RIP All of the above 07.13.03 - 03.20.06
Killed by poor gameplay and developer mismanagment

miodac
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:05 am
#9

There is one sanction open to me currently against behaviour I dont like it is called peer pressure.






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BrendanK
Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:35 am
#10

Either way, AFK grinding is back in full force. I took 10 Jedi missions out last night, and every single one of them is on Kashyyk..

Looks like all that b1tching, moaning, and crying over on the Jedi forums actually did something.

Congratulations Jedi, you're back to your cowardly safe haven called Kashyyk. Looks like you guys got your way.....again.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Jedi are the devs bread and butter of this game..So I suppose, who can blame them for complaining..If we as BH's knew that when we were unhappy, throwing a temper tantrum would get us what we want, We'd probably do the same.



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Skribbs
Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:42 am
#11

Didnt read too much above - stopped at the post where someone called the original guy an idiot - anyway straight from 2 CSR's it is ILLEGAL to grind AFK and is apparently going to be more strictly enforced going forward. So do it if you want, i dont care anyway, but just watch out. There. Sorted.







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TheCapn2000
Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:45 am
#12






BrendanK wrote:
Either way, AFK grinding is back in full force. I took 10 Jedi missions out last night, and every single one of them is on Kashyyk..

Looks like all that b1tching, moaning, and crying over on the Jedi forums actually did something.

Congratulations Jedi, you're back to your cowardly safe haven called Kashyyk. Looks like you guys got your way.....again.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Jedi are the devs bread and butter of this game..So I suppose, who can blame them for complaining..If we as BH's knew that when we were unhappy, throwing a temper tantrum would get us what we want, We'd probably do the same.



lets be clear...broadly labeling it as "AFK" grinding is not accurate...some will be afk...but most are ATK...they are just using the macros...




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Dlek_Krego
Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:47 am
#13






Skribbs wrote:

Didnt read too much above - stopped at the post where someone called the original guy an idiot - anyway straight from 2 CSR's it is ILLEGAL to grind AFK and is apparently going to be more strictly enforced going forward. So do it if you want, i dont care anyway, but just watch out. There. Sorted.









how do you call it sorted, when you say some CSR's (wasn't it a CSR who thought "visibility" was a video card issue?) say it's illegal, while the FAQ's in the in-game holocron says it's perfectly fine?



That is not sorted at all...







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