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Thread: New NPC Elite Marks Impossible!! Hardly....

Avirda
Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:13 am
#1

I'm sorry, I normally don't post things like this...however the recent influx of hunters claiming that the new elite level marks are "impossible" is just ridiculous.


I'm a CL80 MBH/MRifles/xxx3 Pistoleer/xx2x Medic and have fought more than my share of elite marks (20k HAM - 33k HAM). I have had no problem dropping these marks in a matter of one to two minutes without having to heal myself until after the fight.


I'm not sure if all of the people saying these marks are "impossible" are just not very good, don't have very good armor/weapons, or are low CL, but please....just stop. They aren't impossible...Maybe they are for you if you are a low CL, but hey, instead of complaining why not just go level up and get the skill you need?


Anyways, I feel better now. I'm not trying to flame anyone, but the statements that these marks are "impossible" is just ignorant. In fact, I wouldn't mind if they were made more difficult if loot tables were adjusted. =)



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Yoshiyuki
Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:17 am
#2


If you a LvL 54 respec then a lvl 84 is impossible



Kystan
Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:19 am
#3

i guess ill say it again ..



if you cant kill a double elite mark ? youre NEVER gonna kill jedi ..



you should respec to sword / doc IMMEDIATELY




teaeffoh
Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:25 am
#4

i agree, these marks are tough but can be deffeated without a problem. Its all a matter of the tactics you use to whipe them out. And about the respecing to BH, thats just stupid...it may be easier and all but you dont gain the true nature of beinga BH until you have done the grind.



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Zedh
Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:34 am
#5


I think the difficulty is just about right.


Too many people useworthless armors and weapons andhaven't discovered food-buffs, end then there is those who have no idea what CL is, so many of those who complain is probably one of those people.





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ThargarOtherland
Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:35 am
#6


In defense of the people saying they are impossible. First, i was one of those people last week, and yes, i was not properly using my skills. I have been a DE for a while and decided to drop the skills and grind a good combat profession. I did not respec, i grinded all of my skills, so that is not it. I did notice one think. In the beginning, when i was a cl70 and pulling the elite marks they were dishing out 600 to 800 damage every hit. I was unable to keep up with them when healing. Now that i am a cl79 i can take out the boss marks with no problem. They are only doing about 250 to 400 damage per hit. I dont know why this has changed, becuase the marks are still 3 cl levels above mine, but they have become easier to take down. Therefore i think this is one of the reasons some have more trouble than others.


A good example, last night i pulled a cl82 boss mark, i am only a cl79. I figured i was done, but took him on anyway. I killed him easily. 2 days ago when i was a cl77 i got a cl80 boss mark and got incapped within 30 seconds on two different attempts. So i got a cl54 doctor to help me by healing me, pulled out the cl30 tanker droid and started attacking again. # NPCs jumped in and started firing. It took all of us 5 minutes to kill the guy. The doctor even got into it when the mark hit him by some chance. I believe it has something to do with the cl level of the player. I have made a few purchases since then, but i couldnt believe that is the reason


Just a thought




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TarsisDenai
Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:36 am
#7






Zedh wrote:


I think the difficulty is just about right.


Too many people useworthless armors and weapons andhaven't discovered food-buffs, end then there is those who have no idea what CL is, so many of those who complain is probably one of those people.





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OkJedi
Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:37 am
#8


I have also been able to take all my marks with ease, well except one 36K mark. The only reason I had trouble becuase I didn't prepare for battle like usual because the mark before was the same level and was cake. I took care of him don't worry, but he was a challenge.


But to reply to your post, there does seem to be a lack of consistency in what a mark can throw at you. Some boss marks only do piddly damage like 21(ouch)and some 7k can do over 300. And I have notice the regen rateis the same. And since I use the same gear all the time, this has nothing to do with your gear being possibly better than theirs, not saying it's not though. Well this could be the issue for some.


Maybe the marks you have hunted really are not the same as the ones these poor people are reffering to? Who knows?


So, not to flame you, but rather to help explain the situation, atleast from my view, not all marks are created equal.

Message Edited by OkJedi on 08-15-2005 10:43 AM

blacktibbar
Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:37 am
#9

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JoBoFedderish
Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:39 am
#10

My wife is currently grinding out MBH and was taking out the BOSS 82s as a CL 72 with no problem. Its all about the foods, armor and weapon. Tactics are also important. It can be done as a lower level just has to be more to it than swopp in and start shooting.


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Zedh
Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:40 am
#11







ThargarOtherland wrote:


In defense of the people saying they are impossible. First, i was one of those people last week, and yes, i was not properly using my skills. I have been a DE for a while and decided to drop the skills and grind a good combat profession. I did not respec, i grinded all of my skills, so that is not it. I did notice one think. In the beginning, when i was a cl70 and pulling the elite marks they were dishing out 600 to 800 damage every hit. I was unable to keep up with them when healing. Now that i am a cl79 i can take out the boss marks with no problem. They are only doing about 250 to 400 damage per hit. I dont know why this has changed, becuase the marks are still 3 cl levels above mine, but they have become easier to take down. Therefore i think this is one of the reasons some have more trouble than others.


A good example, last night i pulled a cl82 boss mark, i am only a cl79. I figured i was done, but took him on anyway. I killed him easily. 2 days ago when i was a cl77 i got a cl80 boss mark and got incapped within 30 seconds on two different attempts. So i got a cl54 doctor to help me by healing me, pulled out the cl30 tanker droid and started attacking again. # NPCs jumped in and started firing. It took all of us 5 minutes to kill the guy. The doctor even got into it when the mark hit him by some chance. I believe it has something to do with the cl level of the player. I have made a few purchases since then, but i couldnt believe that is the reason


Just a thought







There is a damage multiplier depending on the difference in lvl between you and the mark. I think its about 10% extra damage per lvl so its npt strange that lvl 80+ NPC's kicked your ass when you were lvl 70





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WookieOgre
Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:40 am
#12






Kystan wrote:

i guess ill say it again ..



if you cant kill a double elite mark ? youre NEVER gonna kill jedi ..



you should respec to sword / doc IMMEDIATELY










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I now understand why some people think Jedi = Godmode. If they can't even kill in PvE, that answers a lot of questions rofl.


OkJedi
Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:41 am
#13






OkJedi wrote:

And since I use the same gear all the time, this has nothing to do with your gear being possibly better than theirs, not saying it's not though.





Well this might have somthing to do with it?

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