Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Updated Patch Notes and Clarification on BH Changes
There seems to be alot of people missing the bigger picture here. This is more of a step towards getting rid of AFK grinding then anything. Think logically about it. If the honest padawan, the one whois out with his or her group isn't getting visabilty, then only the ones who are killing feral wookie NPCs (which generate visability) will be on the terms. Not to mention that the afk grinders will be on the terms ALL of the time as they are always online, while the honest won't. If they had combined this change with the elimination of recursive macros it would have been a death blow to afk grinding.
However,here is a tip for all would be Bounty Hunters if you pick up a mark and you don't track him to Kashyyk, its most likely a full template Jedi. I know my padawan is breathing a sigh of relief knowing he can grind at my side with out having to worry about me ratting him out. As for the name thing, I'm sure you are going to get the name with th bio signal, the idea is to stop people from picking a name right off the terms. Bounty Hunters should breath a sigh of relief at this patch.
Message Edited by Dakaar_Halycon on 07-06-2005 05:06 PM
Vlamr wrote:
How long do you have to watch the jedi to give them vis on the terms? Or is there not a time limit at all and they have vis as soon as they perform a jedi action in front of you?
Supposivly they "gain" vis, we have never been shown hard numbers though. As they accumulate more vis, their name appears on the terminals more. (prolly the reason you see some names on the term every other refresh, some just every 50....etc.)
They get it from using any force power, unequiping or equiping a jedi robe or LS, or of course using their LS, within 32m of any player or humanoid npc. (anything that drops credits is considered to give vis)
Again Supposivly if they don't gain any for 3 weeks, their name goes off the terminal.
However stalking a jedi out in the wilderness just to give him vis was considered harassment I believe in the old system.
Message Edited by Maxil on 07-06-2005 03:09 PM
Avirda wrote:
Auro, until Tanks comes back.....
Can you figure out why Cover is /targettable but Cloak isn't?
VERY good question. It shouldn't be.
Auraboron wrote:
From the Patch Notes:
Updated
All mission terminal missions will auto decay from your Datapad after 3 days (Destroy missions, Bounty missions, etc)
Moved Player Bounty Hunting to the Master Bounty Hunter skill Box
Jedi missions are only created for online Jedi, the Jedi may go offline after the mission is created
Jedi missions display Faction instead of Jedi name
Jedi missions all display a payout of a random number between 45000 - 52000 credits on the terminal but may pay a bonus amount based on level and time since the Jedi was last killed
Combat between a bounty hunter and a Jedi for which the bounty hunter has a bounty mission will result in a "bounty hunter TEF". No other TEF (such as factional TEF, for example) is applied. The "bounty hunter TEF" will prevent both the bounty hunter and Jedi from entering player structures, and will eject the player from a player structure if the TEF is received while the player is in the player structure.
Opposing factional TEF and "bounty hunter TEF" are applied to both combatants as soon as any of the combatants attacks.
Group members no longer add to a Jedi's visibility
Players that are using the ability "force cloaked" will no longer be targetable
Message Edited by Auraboron on 07-06-2005 12:04 PM
These are all good fixes although there's at least one things that needs to be done: ForceCloak should be a masterPowers ability or have a limited duration that could be stacked thus causing a player to regularily stack it or allow it to fail.
As for the payout. If the payout modifiers are based on time since last BH kill ANd/OR the /ShowPvP rating of the Jedi I'm going to be a very nice payout for the next BH who gets me.
I'm glad to see the TEF is fixed. NEver made sense that a jedi could run into a house after a BH attacked them. What would happen if the BH attacked a Jedi's bike while said jedi was in a prirvate structure....this give the TEF thus forcing them from the house?
Re: causing a Jedi to gain vis being harrassment - yes it still is. This is purposefully following one around when he/she wouldn't otherwise be gaining visibility - not watching some tool in Theed.
So yeah, hanging around the feral wooks to watch Jedi grind in the hopes of getting them on terms is harassment and would continue to be.
Dakaar_Halycon wrote:
There seems to be alot of people missing the bigger picture here. This is more of a step towards getting rid of AFK grinding then anything. Think logically about it. If the honest padawan, the one who is out with his or her group isn't getting visabilty, then only the ones who are killing feral wookie NPCs (which generate visability) will be on the terms. Not to mention that the afk grinders will be on the terms ALL of the time as they are always online, while the honest won't. If they had combined this change with the elimination of recursive macros it would have been a death blow to afk grinding.
However, here is a tip for all would be Bounty Hunters if you pick up a mark and you don't track him to Kashyyk, its most likely a full template Jedi. I know my padawan is breathing a sigh of relief knowing he can grind at my side with out having to worry about me ratting him out. As for the name thing, I'm sure you are going to get the name with th bio signal, the idea is to stop people from picking a name right off the terms. Bounty Hunters should breath a sigh of relief at this patch.
Message Edited by Dakaar_Halycon on 07-06-2005 05:06 PM
I will breath a sigh of relief when I found out for sure from a Dev that we will get the name at some point besides when we finally target them.
And exceptionally hard to prove.
DarthKaelan wrote:
Re: causing a Jedi to gain vis being harrassment - yes it still is. This is purposefully following one around when he/she wouldn't otherwise be gaining visibility - not watching some tool in Theed.
So yeah, hanging around the feral wooks to watch Jedi grind in the hopes of getting them on terms is harassment and would continue to be.
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
And exceptionally hard to prove.
DarthKaelan wrote:
Re: causing a Jedi to gain vis being harrassment - yes it still is. This is purposefully following one around when he/she wouldn't otherwise be gaining visibility - not watching some tool in Theed.
So yeah, hanging around the feral wooks to watch Jedi grind in the hopes of getting them on terms is harassment and would continue to be.
Who needs proof? The Jedi screams and the Dev listens
Killa-Kell-Krushin wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
And exceptionally hard to prove.
DarthKaelan wrote:
Re: causing a Jedi to gain vis being harrassment - yes it still is. This is purposefully following one around when he/she wouldn't otherwise be gaining visibility - not watching some tool in Theed.
So yeah, hanging around the feral wooks to watch Jedi grind in the hopes of getting them on terms is harassment and would continue to be.
Who needs proof? The Jedi screams and the Dev listens
Devs don't man the CSR lines too often. It's the CSR you gotta convince. That is a complete crapshoot.
IF you're lucky, they play your opponent.
IF you're really lucky, they play the same profession you do.
IF you're not lucky, they don't play the game at all.
I m a jedi, and don't like the fact that we get :
-no vis in group
-no name in term
-random payout
The 3 at the same time ! Isn't that extreme ? I expect jedi to be nerf more. I will bow to BH that will continue to hunt me, really this is too much change at once without step back experience.
kaashik must be corrected for seeker to work there. It has to be with soextrem changes,