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Thread: Why do YOU hunt Jedi?
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Ziocyte
Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:32 pm
#1
A simple question that I am very curious to see answered by the BH community...
First off let me say that I am a Master Bounty Hunter and have been so the better part of a year.
A few months ago when the droids started working and what-not, I started taking player Jedi missions... I have a list in my bio of all the bounties I've collected, but lately I am starting to wonder why I ever did player bounties at all.
Recenly a very good friend of mine, and the person who got me involved with SWG in the first place unlocked his Jedi. This made me think. I thought about all of the Player Jedi that I have hunted and it really put into perspective how pointless and just plain mean taking player bounties is.
The way I see it there are really only 2 reasons that someone would want to hunt a Jedi.
1) They are a hardcore Roleplayer and are simply playing the role of a ruthless Bounty Hunter. (However this, at least on my server, is not very likely seeing how almost nobody roleplays in any form)
2) They are a pure griefer, and take pleasure in physically causing unrest in other peoples lifes and gaming experience.
I flat out stopped hunting Jedi for this reason alone... It's not going to "control" the population in any way to hunt Jedi and cause xp loss. People who play Bounty Hunter under this guise are fooling them selves because anyone who is playing a Jedi went to the extreme lengths to reach that goal... Simply put, I am not going to participate in this act any more because it involves another players personal time, wich is something I have no right to intrude on in such a large fashion. There are a lot of good people out there playing Jedi just to have fun, and the grind is already bad enough for them that they don't need some random BH comming to add hour apon hour to that grind.
Ziocyte
Message Edited by Ziocyte on 09-12-2004 02:39 PM
Polished
Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:37 pm
#2
Bit of a narrow viewpoint.
I don't fall into either category but hunt Jedi cause my heart beats damn fast, my hands shake and the euphoria upon killing them makes me smile. I would never grief a Jediand have had a lot of good chats with them after the battles over.Don't forget they go into Jedi with their eyes wide open. they know the risks and no one holds a gun to their head making them play a Jedi.
Dark_World_Thorns
Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:47 pm
#4
I haven't hunted a jedi yet, but i know why i would if i did.
I hunt jedi to keep their numbers down, that smy number one reson, my number two is that i want revenge. Revenge for how ALL Jedi raped the continuity, treat fellow players, and ruined the game with their "Hologrinding" and more recently flooded the boards with millions of "How do i become a Jedi in less than 4 months?" "OMFG I JUST GOT MY OLD MAN OMOMG!!!1!11" and "We need (insert force power) to be more powerful/effective!"
Jedi are powerful, but they abuse their power. I have never met a Jedi that feels like he/she got more than they deserved for the hologrind, its always "Well i worked hard for my uberness so there!" this is the one and only case where i think 90% of the stereotypes about Jedi are true.
Do i hate Jedi? A little
Do i enjoy watching them suffer? No
Do i have "Saber Envy"? No
I'm just a guy who is sickened at what "Jedi" did to this once great game.
I hunt jedi to keep their numbers down, that smy number one reson, my number two is that i want revenge. Revenge for how ALL Jedi raped the continuity, treat fellow players, and ruined the game with their "Hologrinding" and more recently flooded the boards with millions of "How do i become a Jedi in less than 4 months?" "OMFG I JUST GOT MY OLD MAN OMOMG!!!1!11" and "We need (insert force power) to be more powerful/effective!"
Jedi are powerful, but they abuse their power. I have never met a Jedi that feels like he/she got more than they deserved for the hologrind, its always "Well i worked hard for my uberness so there!" this is the one and only case where i think 90% of the stereotypes about Jedi are true.
Do i hate Jedi? A little
Do i enjoy watching them suffer? No
Do i have "Saber Envy"? No
I'm just a guy who is sickened at what "Jedi" did to this once great game.
katya7
Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:49 pm
#5
Polished wrote:Bit of a narrow viewpoint.I don't fall into either category but hunt Jedi cause my heart beats damn fast, my hands shake and the euphoria upon killing them makes me smile. I would never grief a Jedi and have had a lot of good chats with them after the battles over. Don't forget they go into Jedi with their eyes wide open. they know the risks and no one holds a gun to their head making them play a Jedi.
Exactly the same reason here. I do not grief and I am not a hardcore roleplayer. My nerves build up each time I go hunting, and that is what I love. It's intense and a bit of a "rush" so to say, trying to outwit your opponent, figuring out where he'll be going, waiting till he's most vulnerable, then attacking and if you succeed, the feeling is great. I am not a jedi hater and it's nothing personal, it's just simply the thrill of it all. Win or lose, it's great fun.
The chase is the best part for me
galvatronicus
Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:52 pm
#6
The thrill of hunting someone that has the limitations that comes with our player made templates (dont have to worry about getting strafeshotted NYAX style). The unpredictability of combat. The low likelyhood of TEF'ers. The possibility of overcoming someone more powerful than myself and the feeling of achievment that comes with victory.
The part of jedi hunting I struggle with is AFK jedi. Why the hell do they go AFK? Part of you doesnt want to kill such a hapless target, yet at the sametime you are fully aware of the fact they would not hesitate to kill and DB you were the tables turned. Anyway, this is the only time I feel like I am griefing, but I have to carry through on principle alone. Were I ever to pursue jedi (which I wont) I would not go AFK, I just dont understand why they do it....
The part of jedi hunting I struggle with is AFK jedi. Why the hell do they go AFK? Part of you doesnt want to kill such a hapless target, yet at the sametime you are fully aware of the fact they would not hesitate to kill and DB you were the tables turned. Anyway, this is the only time I feel like I am griefing, but I have to carry through on principle alone. Were I ever to pursue jedi (which I wont) I would not go AFK, I just dont understand why they do it....
Ziocyte
Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:02 pm
#7
Dark_World_Thorns wrote:
I haven't hunted a jedi yet, but i know why i would if i did.
I hunt jedi to keep their numbers down, that smy number one reson, my number two is that i want revenge. Revenge for how ALL Jedi raped the continuity, treat fellow players, and ruined the game with their "Hologrinding" and more recently flooded the boards with millions of "How do i become a Jedi in less than 4 months?" "OMFG I JUST GOT MY OLD MAN OMOMG!!!1!11" and "We need (insert force power) to be more powerful/effective!"
Jedi are powerful, but they abuse their power. I have never met a Jedi that feels like he/she got more than they deserved for the hologrind, its always "Well i worked hard for my uberness so there!" this is the one and only case where i think 90% of the stereotypes about Jedi are true.
Do i hate Jedi? A little
Do i enjoy watching them suffer? No
Do i have "Saber Envy"? No
I'm just a guy who is sickened at what "Jedi" did to this once great game.
First off, you say "ALL Jedi" wich is a HUGE generalization... there are plenty of Jedi that stick to their own little corner of the galaxie that you probably don't even know exsist. Some of these Jedi, however, do end up on the BH terminal for reasons partially out of their control.
Second, no amount of Bounty Hunters are gonna keep the Jedi poplulation down. To a Jedi a Bounty Hunter is simply a speed bump on the way through their journey. I have never met a Jedi who quit the game because they couldn't handle the Bounty Hunters lol. And even if they did quit is that what you want? To completely suck the fun out of someones gaming experience to the point that they would quit after months and months of dedication?
All of your examples are just generalizations and cookie cutter things that you hear ranted on the forums w/o any specific examples. How is it that Jedi abuse there power? Sure there are a few bad seeds, but that can be said for any profession. In reality they are very cordial with the rest of the player base, considering they are the fall guy for just about every problem in the game according to these message boards.
Also, if you want to read some "OMGZOR we suck we needbetter powers" check a few months back on the BH boards... It wasfor a timeTHEprimire board for whining, complaining, and genral hatred of everything in the game.
Ziocyte
l_StarFox_l
Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:02 pm
#8
Well one thing's for sure... no one's doing it for the bounty 
LordDixch
Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:30 pm
#9
Recenly a very good friend of mine, and the person who got me involved with SWG in the first place unlocked his Jedi. This made me think. I thought about all of the Player Jedi that I have hunted and it really put into perspective how pointless and just plain mean taking player bounties is.
The way I see it there are really only 2 reasons that someone would want to hunt a Jedi.
1) They are a hardcore Roleplayer and are simply playing the role of a ruthless Bounty Hunter. (However this, at least on my server, is not very likely seeing how almost nobody roleplays in any form)
2) They are a pure griefer, and take pleasure in physically causing unrest in other peoples lifes and gaming experience.
Hehe.... My turn...
There are many reasons that people hunt jedi your complain about overgeneralizations but yet you make the same kind with your first post:
Killing someone is not greifing. Have you ever dueld? taken part in the GCW? then your a greifer? NO. Just cause you like the challenge of fighting its not greifing.
Personaly I hunt jedi for these three reasons:
1: Yes, all jedi have "raped" star wars continuity, just cause they stay in their "little corner of the galaxie" doesnt mean that they havnt broken continuity.
2: I know that soon jedi will be veiying with each other for top spot on the FRS system, If Im a bounty hunter I can interfear with their lvling up and prevent uber jedi from running around
3: its hard.... plain and simple and that makes it more fun than killing mokks on dant
4: Personally other thatn the continuity I stillhate jedi. Light or Dark it doesnt matter
Just casue i kill them doesnt meanI grief either.... PersonallyI dont grief...ever, thoguh if SOE permited it i might grief jedi
And lastly BH whinned months ago and now becasue our prof is so messed up. People still cant seem to reallize that... The jedi whine because ITS HARD!!! to get to be a jedi thats sad.. BH whinne becasue we cant do what we were designede to do HUNT!!!! our droid didnt work our missions were bugged of course were gona complain.
Tanks
Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:34 pm
#10
1) They are a hardcore Roleplayer and are simply playing the role of a ruthless Bounty Hunter. (However this, at least on my server, is not very likely seeing how almost nobody roleplays in any form)
2) They are a pure griefer, and take pleasure in physically causing unrest in other peoples lifes and gaming experience.
Interesting that you give 2 reasons, roleplaying or griefing and then disregard the first one as not being likely. Therefore, by your reasoning all Jedi hunters are griefers!!!
How about, because it is the end game for BHs. It sure is more exciting, thrillingand risky then hunting NPC marks.
I also do not see how it is causing unrest in other peoples lives and gaming experience when people have a choice. Play a Jedi that is a PvP profession or not. I have heard the similar argument from people that were running faction missions and then complain about getting killed by an overt member of the opposite faction because of TEF. Getting hunted by BHs is the risk of the profession. Don't like the risk, don't play the profession.
Irxosskisx
Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:38 pm
#11
Why do I want to hunt Jedi....It's the challange. Going out to beat on NPC's I know I can fight gets boring. And Jedi Bounties give the opertunity to fight against a willing opponet. I say willing because They Take the Jedi knowing that BH's will come after them.
I would prefer it acctually if the Jedi did not loose XP to us.... In my mind this might promote Jedi that acctually fight instead of running or FD'ing till the BH get's bored or friends come....Honestly we don't risk anything.. there is no valid reason that they should ....
Nim_Cross
Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:40 pm
#12
I hunt Jedi for several reasons.
First off, it's the BH's role to hunt Jedi. That's our gift from the devs for being BH's (even though they crap on us so much).
It's been stated by the devs that we are the crowd control for the Jedi population.
I don't greif Jedi. I hunt Jedi for the sole reason of the hunt. I like to RP a Bounty Hunter while I'm hunting Jedi. It's more fun tracking something unpredictable rather than hunting an NPC that just travels in a straight line.
I don't care WHAT you say about BH's ruining Jedi's person time. People who play Jedi MUST accept the fact that their actions reflect on whether or not we hunt them. I know plenty of Jedi who have ground themselves to Knight and have barely been on the boards. That's the way it's suppose to be. Those are the smart Jedi. They grind out in the middle of nowhere.
The only Jedi who have a problem with bounty hunters are the morons who grind down in the Geo Caves (Club Jed). Those are the people who, even though they are killing Humanoid NPC's, they can't figure out why the hell they are on the boards. They are the people who think that Jedi are the best combat profession in the game. They are the one's who think that they should be the most powerful people in the game.
Well, those powergamers that ground out Jedi just so that they can be the most powerful thing in the game have had a rude awakening.
I've killed plenty of Jedi since It's been implamented into the game. There are two kinds of Jedi.
The first kind of Jedi are the ones who accept the fact that what they did got them killed. They are the one's who understand that it's the BH's job to keep the Jedi in line. They understand that they screwed up if they had a BH after them. They are the mature players.
Then there are the power gamer Jedi. These are the people that thought that being Jedi would give them a free pass to kill anyone in the game... Be the most powerful player in combat. They are the ones who freak out whenever you kill them because, yeash, if you kill them, obviously you cheated in some fasion. They are the ones who get pïssed when they get killed because they can't come to grips with the fact that it's our job to hunt them. They don't understand that their own carelessness got them killed. These are the immature Jedi.
Now, Ziocyte, reading your post, I find it hard to believe that you are a bounty hunter. You can say that you are a bounty hunter all you want, but I think you're a Jedi just trolling about these boards, venting your frustration. Obviously you must be example number two of the kind of Jedi I've encountered.
First off, it's the BH's role to hunt Jedi. That's our gift from the devs for being BH's (even though they crap on us so much).
It's been stated by the devs that we are the crowd control for the Jedi population.
I don't greif Jedi. I hunt Jedi for the sole reason of the hunt. I like to RP a Bounty Hunter while I'm hunting Jedi. It's more fun tracking something unpredictable rather than hunting an NPC that just travels in a straight line.
I don't care WHAT you say about BH's ruining Jedi's person time. People who play Jedi MUST accept the fact that their actions reflect on whether or not we hunt them. I know plenty of Jedi who have ground themselves to Knight and have barely been on the boards. That's the way it's suppose to be. Those are the smart Jedi. They grind out in the middle of nowhere.
The only Jedi who have a problem with bounty hunters are the morons who grind down in the Geo Caves (Club Jed). Those are the people who, even though they are killing Humanoid NPC's, they can't figure out why the hell they are on the boards. They are the people who think that Jedi are the best combat profession in the game. They are the one's who think that they should be the most powerful people in the game.
Well, those powergamers that ground out Jedi just so that they can be the most powerful thing in the game have had a rude awakening.
I've killed plenty of Jedi since It's been implamented into the game. There are two kinds of Jedi.
The first kind of Jedi are the ones who accept the fact that what they did got them killed. They are the one's who understand that it's the BH's job to keep the Jedi in line. They understand that they screwed up if they had a BH after them. They are the mature players.
Then there are the power gamer Jedi. These are the people that thought that being Jedi would give them a free pass to kill anyone in the game... Be the most powerful player in combat. They are the ones who freak out whenever you kill them because, yeash, if you kill them, obviously you cheated in some fasion. They are the ones who get pïssed when they get killed because they can't come to grips with the fact that it's our job to hunt them. They don't understand that their own carelessness got them killed. These are the immature Jedi.
Now, Ziocyte, reading your post, I find it hard to believe that you are a bounty hunter. You can say that you are a bounty hunter all you want, but I think you're a Jedi just trolling about these boards, venting your frustration. Obviously you must be example number two of the kind of Jedi I've encountered.
lithic-2000
Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:43 pm
#13
I hunt jedi for the stories. Mabe you guys havent read my posts, but i wrtie the "warrior's demise" stories. Vol. 4 is about to come out so stay tuned, that is if you like them.
Good hunting, respect yor prey, for they are why you hunt.
Good hunting, respect yor prey, for they are why you hunt.
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