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Thread: Can Anybody Tank Jedi?

Pug
Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:22 pm
#1


I've only ever been Master Bounty Hunter / Master Pistoleer, so I am curious if there are there templates that include Master Bounty Hunter (obviously) that can stand toe-to-toe with a Jedi during combat? Are there any interesting tactics involved?



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Pug
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Pug
Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:02 pm
#2


Do ya'll find that standing still makes it easier to fight? i.e. Can you concentrate more on your HAM bar? Can you make sure you're macros and foods are working easier? Do you feel it makes the Jedi use Force quicker because they're actively using attacks?


I'm looking for decent analysis of these tactics, not just "yes I can".




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Pug
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Nathanielstarr
Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:10 pm
#3

I can sorta tank them as a MPistoleer BH. You have to be able to as a pistoleer, you can't go too far away from them. But you have to use your roots, knockdowns, disarms and intimidates. Keep them intimidated at all times.


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You have to be able to heal so you need more than just stims, but you have to use stims as often as possible to conserve your mind. Use ruby bliel, synthsteak, mando wine and won won and you'll be able to last awhile if you are smart. But yeah they can spam powerhit awfully fast.


Akast
Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:23 pm
#4

also use a med droid makes it easy then



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Darkknight109
Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:05 pm
#5

Are you kidding? Jedi is the easiest combat profession in the game to tank ATM! I have dueled a few people just for the hell of it and I have yet to win in anything but a stalemate. They deal almost no damage to me, but my saber, being a typical post CU Jedi saber, sucks, so I can't deal enough damage to them. End result:


I heal, channel force once or twice maybe...


They heal, not frequently enough to bring their mind bar down


My Defense and theirs means that no one ever dies in these little duels.


I had one person who was able to deal a significant amount of damage to me. Kept me healing constantly. I saw my mind dropping fast, and I was worried for a bit.... then he ran out of action. And that solved that. Want more proof? When the vis patch went live, I dueled three of my Jedi friends to celebrate. Everyone on me, one full template, two a good chunk of the way through. With Master Doc, a bit of defender and a touch of healer, I outlasted all three of them. Their force bars went out, but there was no way I could do any damage to them.


MOST Jedi are easily tankable, unless they have a Pre-CU saber with premium pearls in it.




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Wotanabin
Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:09 pm
#6


Chaind2f8
Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:13 pm
#7

I was doing a pretty good job of tanking Jedi as a MBH/MCM/Pistoleer0004 template. The only time that I really had a problem was when I got hit by a KD recovery bug, the server started lagging badly, or my heal buttons locked up and wouldn't heal me.



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bakawanka
Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:05 am
#8


I've yet to see any BH be able to tank a jedi who has a decent pre-cu saber.





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Digitalalchemyzt
Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:41 am
#9


Its nothing but a HEALWARS game. period. its not a matter of killing a jedi because of this or that. its healwars. dude has 1300 stims. i mean, its healwars. theres not skill in that. none. just seta heal macro. id actually like to see a skill fight.


HeadRoll
Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:35 am
#10






Digitalalchemyzt wrote:


Its nothing but a HEALWARS game. period. its not a matter of killing a jedi because of this or that. its healwars. dude has 1300 stims. i mean, its healwars. theres not skill in that. none. just seta heal macro. id actually like to see a skill fight.





I agree with the battle of heals in the post cu era. But your lack of skill comment. Do you think there was skill pre cu as well? Go ahead, enlighten us.

HeadRoll
Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:42 pm
#11






Pug wrote:


I've only ever been Master Bounty Hunter / Master Pistoleer, so I am curious if there are there templates that include Master Bounty Hunter (obviously) that can stand toe-to-toe with a Jedi during combat? Are there any interesting tactics involved?






Like any armed opponent. it's all about the quality of weapon in their possesion. If I am fighting a master defender yielding a poor quality sabre. i don't bother kiting. I stand there and let him burn his action / force spamming attacks on me. With my med droid I can keep up with heals easy.


You will know right away in the first few hits whether or not to stand and tank, or Kite.....


Nathanielstarr
Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:37 pm
#12






NoStyleGuy wrote:
pre cu PVP = who can throw the best CM mind dot, and land the best mind DOT weapon the fastest.





I don't necessary agree with that and I actually think skill was less needed to win Pre-cu. Yeah MCM is still very powerful in comparison with other professions just like it was pre cu, but they are beatable.


A friend of mine who is an mcm/mbh and I dueled (I'm Mpistols/MBH) and I ended up winning after a good long fight. The weakness with MCM is that their actions use up mind. That's how I beat him in the end is because I wore down his mind faster than I he was able to mine. But his dots hurt like crazy, they certainly did more damage than my pistols did to him (after his armor especially) but by using intimidate, disarm, quickdraw etc I was able to keep the damage off of me enough to do more damage to him.


Yes you have to have healing in your template and that still sucks...but at least it's more feasible to have in your template these days and alot of people can get by with just medic.


Pre-cu it was all about knockdown/dizzy and spamming whatever hit targetted the mind while using stun damage or your uber dot.
Samurai_XD
Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:43 pm
#13

if you get some ab slices and hit them harder and faster then they are hitting you i say that could be taning them because they will be healing and not attack so much, so it all depends



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