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Thread: Can Anybody Tank Jedi?

Chaind2f8
Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:46 pm
#14






Samurai_XD wrote:

if you get some ab slices and hit them harder and faster then they are hitting you i say that could be taning them because they will be healing and not attack so much, so it all depends





Very rarely will you ever be able to outdamage a Jedi - at least not a full template one. With Force Aura alone they gain +500 defense and this will either cause you to miss an insane amount of times or will push your weapons to their minimum damage. In the meantime you'll be getting hit for 4-600 damage consistently and quickly.



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dazzla
Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:19 am
#15






Chaind2f8 wrote:

Very rarely will you ever be able to outdamage a Jedi - at least not a full template one. With Force Aura alone they gain +500 defense and this will either cause you to miss an insane amount of times or will push your weapons to their minimum damage. In the meantime you'll be getting hit for 4-600 damage consistently and quickly.






Been trying out bh / swordie and it can tank v. nicely indeed.
Pug
Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:44 am
#16


Last night I finished grinding Combat Medic 4xxx.


Here is my full template:


  • Master Bounty Hunter

  • Master Pistoleer

  • Combat Medic 4xxx

  • Medic x41x

  • Heightened Senses 1xxx (extra +5 Healing Efficiency for my last remaining skill point)

Here is my equipment:


  • Fully ADK'd suit of 8100+ energy resist Tantel Armor

  • +25 tapes for Pistol Speed, General Ranged Speed, Pistol Accuracy, General Ranged Accuracy, Pistol Defense, Ranged Defense and Melee Defense (which we now know isn't what we thought it was cuz we don't wield Melee Weapons)

  • BE clothing totalling +25 Healing Efficiency

  • ADK'd double-capped Featherweight FWG5 with +65 accuracy PuP'd to 46 SAC

  • 110 medical combat probot droid with 25 self-heal rating

  • Health Buff Crystal and Mind Buff Crystal

  • Foods that add +180 to Health, Action and Mind for 50 minutes, Booster Blue, Pikatta Pie and Deu Pyro. I have plenty of stomach space left, so I'll be adding more to it over time.

Last night I stood toe-to-toe with a fully template Jedi. I think he was a Master Powers because he would put me in Stasis (ARGH!) and channel Force. I'm not sure what the rest of his template was. We had a fantastic fight. I kept Duelist Stance up and kept him Intimidated, Blinded, Stunned and Dizzy as much as possible. I was never in any danger. I wore him down and wore him down and wore him down. Eventually he fled, escaped off-planet and was able to wear off his TEF and log off in his private structure.


I'm officially pleased with my template. Standing still during combat allows me to watch my HAM and my buffs and my mark's HAM and debuffs much better.


Your mileage may vary.



May the Force be with you.

Pug
Bounty Hunter
Vendor in Valley of Shadows, Talus
/way -4307 2627
Pug
Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:51 am
#17






Pug wrote:


Last night I finished grinding Combat Medic 4xxx.


Here is my full template:


  • Master Bounty Hunter

  • Master Pistoleer

  • Combat Medic 4xxx

  • Medic x41x

  • Heightened Senses 1xxx (extra +5 Healing Efficiency for my last remaining skill point)

Here is my equipment:


  • Fully ADK'd suit of 8100+ energy resist Tantel Armor

  • +25 tapes for Pistol Speed, General Ranged Speed, Pistol Accuracy, General Ranged Accuracy, Pistol Defense, Ranged Defense and Melee Defense (which we now know isn't what we thought it was cuz we don't wield Melee Weapons)

  • BE clothing totalling +25 Healing Efficiency

  • ADK'd double-capped Featherweight FWG5 with +65 accuracy PuP'd to 46 SAC

  • 110 medical combat probot droid with 25 self-heal rating

  • Health Buff Crystal and Mind Buff Crystal

  • Foods that add +180 to Health, Action and Mind for 50 minutes, Booster Blue, Pikatta Pie and Deu Pyro. I have plenty of stomach space left, so I'll be adding more to it over time.

Last night I stood toe-to-toe with a fully template Jedi. I think he was a Master Powers because he would put me in Stasis (ARGH!) and channel Force. I'm not sure what the rest of his template was. We had a fantastic fight. I kept Duelist Stance up and kept him Intimidated, Blinded, Stunned and Dizzy as much as possible. I was never in any danger. I wore him down and wore him down and wore him down. Eventually he fled, escaped off-planet and was able to wear off his TEF and log off in his private structure.


I'm officially pleased with my template. Standing still during combat allows me to watch my HAM and my buffs and my mark's HAM and debuffs much better.


Your mileage may vary.






Forgot to mention things I need to do/change:



  • I didn't have Doctor buffs. I wanted to see how I'd do without them, but I will always get them in the future.

  • My weapon isn't sliced yet. I'm thining a full Critical Strike slice and then a Speed slice.

  • My stomach fills with drinks (Deu Pyro) during the fight, but I have plenty of space for food. I need to buy some other buffing foods.

  • I didn't use a Duelist Stance macro. I'm gonna start using it again.

  • Practice, practice, practice!




May the Force be with you.

Pug
Bounty Hunter
Vendor in Valley of Shadows, Talus
/way -4307 2627
mindspat
Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:12 pm
#18






Pug wrote:





Pug wrote:


Last night I finished grinding Combat Medic 4xxx.


Here is my full template:


  • Master Bounty Hunter

  • Master Pistoleer

  • Combat Medic 4xxx

  • Medic x41x

  • Heightened Senses 1xxx (extra +5 Healing Efficiency for my last remaining skill point)

Here is my equipment:


  • Fully ADK'd suit of 8100+ energy resist Tantel Armor

  • +25 tapes for Pistol Speed, General Ranged Speed, Pistol Accuracy, General Ranged Accuracy, Pistol Defense, Ranged Defense and Melee Defense (which we now know isn't what we thought it was cuz we don't wield Melee Weapons)

  • BE clothing totalling +25 Healing Efficiency

  • ADK'd double-capped Featherweight FWG5 with +65 accuracy PuP'd to 46 SAC

  • 110 medical combat probot droid with 25 self-heal rating

  • Health Buff Crystal and Mind Buff Crystal

  • Foods that add +180 to Health, Action and Mind for 50 minutes, Booster Blue, Pikatta Pie and Deu Pyro. I have plenty of stomach space left, so I'll be adding more to it over time.

Last night I stood toe-to-toe with a fully template Jedi. I think he was a Master Powers because he would put me in Stasis (ARGH!) and channel Force. I'm not sure what the rest of his template was. We had a fantastic fight. I kept Duelist Stance up and kept him Intimidated, Blinded, Stunned and Dizzy as much as possible. I was never in any danger. I wore him down and wore him down and wore him down. Eventually he fled, escaped off-planet and was able to wear off his TEF and log off in his private structure.


I'm officially pleased with my template. Standing still during combat allows me to watch my HAM and my buffs and my mark's HAM and debuffs much better.


Your mileage may vary.






Forgot to mention things I need to do/change:



  • I didn't have Doctor buffs. I wanted to see how I'd do without them, but I will always get them in the future.

  • My weapon isn't sliced yet. I'm thining a full Critical Strike slice and then a Speed slice.

  • My stomach fills with drinks (Deu Pyro) during the fight, but I have plenty of space for food. I need to buy some other buffing foods.

  • I didn't use a Duelist Stance macro. I'm gonna start using it again.

  • Practice, practice, practice!





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magneto2
Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:00 pm
#19

ive never had a BH tank me and kill me, they always kite...if they try and tank me they r dead in 30 seconds everytime


and i have hardly any defender






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memnoku_xiaolong
Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:20 pm
#20

lmao datgangsta you are full of **edit**. im mbh mcarbs cm 4000 with healing eficiency shirt andf medig 0410 and i cant toe to toe with a jedi using biel and stims to. i got 7k100 nrg rsst armour with a plus 12 accuracy aa i use an adkd proton carb with adecent dpsbase which is useless against a psg im forced to use a nyms with slice and damage pup with brings it to 560 dps and i cant outdamage or out heal a jedi



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lspiderl
Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:59 pm
#21

well im m pistols MBH and sl 0404 u get an insane increase in defs that way


or u could cahnge it up and get sl 0440 and then just make sure ur a group leader INSANE defs man ima ranged tank lol





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Chaind2f8
Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:51 pm
#22





Forgot to mention things I need to do/change:



  • I didn't have Doctor buffs. I wanted to see how I'd do without them, but I will always get them in the future.

  • My weapon isn't sliced yet. I'm thining a full Critical Strike slice and then a Speed slice.

  • My stomach fills with drinks (Deu Pyro) during the fight, but I have plenty of space for food. I need to buy some other buffing foods.

  • I didn't use a Duelist Stance macro. I'm gonna start using it again.

  • Practice, practice, practice!






Just a little heads up for you - you won't be able to do any further slicing if you go full critical. If you go full critical or speed you'll use all the availabe customization. If going full damage, however, you could also get a level 1 critical and speed slice.



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dyby
Sat Oct 01, 2005 1:48 am
#23

I do it alot of the time.


I am a mbh/mr/ cm 4000


I found get healing eff stuff and then some bacta x(note the x is the type)enhancers. oh maybe a droid for alittle distracking






Bah stupid nge, but what you gonig to do about it. well i am back and looking to kill some rebs.

-efapos
ScoutTrooperLT
Sat Oct 01, 2005 2:13 am
#24

When I was MRM, MBH, Pistol 0/0/0/4, I died to jedi a fair amount of the time. Reason? You can't just rely on armor and stimpacks to keep your health up.


I respecced to MRM, MBH, CM 4/0/0/0, Medic 0/4/1/0.


Since then, I have never lost to a jedi. Plenty of draws, but no losses as of yet. The reason is healing.


8000ish energy resist scout trooper armor, pikatta pie, vegeparsine (probably doesn't work but I have tons of crates in my storage so why not use it anyhow), synthsteak, crispic, mandalorian wine, elshandruu pica thundercloud, booster blue. Then you have the skill tapes. The spray/toss enhancers. The high power stimpacks. There's other defensive precautions I fail to mention, like a stimpack droid and a request macro. Little things add up.


But in any case, from my experience, jedi have never been able to put out enough offensive power to kill me 1on1. If bacta spray is down, I use bacta shot. If that's down, then bacta toss (when you can target yourself). Then you have stimpacks to rely on. My mind rarely reaches below 50% because armor and defenses hold its own.


Including weapon accuracy, tapes, food and all of that stuff, I can get near 400 accuracy and 400 defense. I used to be pistoleer so I still have root. So I can use root, snare, KD.


The jedi that are tough to kill are defenders. I have to kill them right off the bat normally. If it ends up going long, it usually ends up a draw. If you send in a bomb droid to /chase and /detonate about 3 seconds before he reaches the jedi, and use it in conjunction with a sniper shot, then underhand shot and critical shot, the defender can go out pretty clean. In these scenarios I sometimes carry deuterium pyro just for the initial strike to max my accuracy.


But back to the subject.. If you have the right equipment and skills, jedi should not be able to take you down. Against certain jedi you have to play extremely cautiously though and keep your wits about you. Sometimes it comes down to whoever makes a mistake first or loses their cool. That's where experience comes in. You should have it programmed into your mind each action you're going to take so it's second nature and you barely have to think about it. I notice some BHs who are in the best equipment around still can lose to a low rank jedi because they forget what they're supposed to do and allow mistakes and gaps for their opponent to take advantage of. The same goes vice versa.



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http://www.st-epsilon.net
http://foevideos.com/Video/ST%20day.avi
"Rule by the fear of force rather than through force itself." -The Tarkin Doctrine
Hasun
Sat Oct 01, 2005 3:23 am
#25






Pug wrote:





Pug wrote:


Last night I finished grinding Combat Medic 4xxx.


Here is my full template:


  • Master Bounty Hunter

  • Master Pistoleer

  • Combat Medic 4xxx

  • Medic x41x

  • Heightened Senses 1xxx (extra +5 Healing Efficiency for my last remaining skill point)

Here is my equipment:


  • Fully ADK'd suit of 8100+ energy resist Tantel Armor

  • +25 tapes for Pistol Speed, General Ranged Speed, Pistol Accuracy, General Ranged Accuracy, Pistol Defense, Ranged Defense and Melee Defense (which we now know isn't what we thought it was cuz we don't wield Melee Weapons)

  • BE clothing totalling +25 Healing Efficiency

  • ADK'd double-capped Featherweight FWG5 with +65 accuracy PuP'd to 46 SAC

  • 110 medical combat probot droid with 25 self-heal rating

  • Health Buff Crystal and Mind Buff Crystal

  • Foods that add +180 to Health, Action and Mind for 50 minutes, Booster Blue, Pikatta Pie and Deu Pyro. I have plenty of stomach space left, so I'll be adding more to it over time.

Last night I stood toe-to-toe with a fully template Jedi. I think he was a Master Powers because he would put me in Stasis (ARGH!) and channel Force. I'm not sure what the rest of his template was. We had a fantastic fight. I kept Duelist Stance up and kept him Intimidated, Blinded, Stunned and Dizzy as much as possible. I was never in any danger. I wore him down and wore him down and wore him down. Eventually he fled, escaped off-planet and was able to wear off his TEF and log off in his private structure.


I'm officially pleased with my template. Standing still during combat allows me to watch my HAM and my buffs and my mark's HAM and debuffs much better.


Your mileage may vary.






Forgot to mention things I need to do/change:



  • I didn't have Doctor buffs. I wanted to see how I'd do without them, but I will always get them in the future.

  • My weapon isn't sliced yet. I'm thining a full Critical Strike slice and then a Speed slice.

  • My stomach fills with drinks (Deu Pyro) during the fight, but I have plenty of space for food. I need to buy some other buffing foods.

  • I didn't use a Duelist Stance macro. I'm gonna start using it again.

  • Practice, practice, practice!







Do not use a duelist stance macro, Pug, I did and payed for it. It can interfere with your healing and your KD recovery. Just press it when it starts flashing.





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ScoutTrooperLT
Sat Oct 01, 2005 3:43 am
#26

Personally, I never even use macros anymore. The only macro I have is /deathblow and /requeststim every 30.5 seconds. I feel I can do better without the macros. I just have to click on things a split second ahead of time to que it and everything falls into place. Being on 56k dialup and AOL has always screwed my macros up occasionallybecause it sometimesthrows the timing off a bit.



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Former Executive Officer - Detachment Epsilon
http://www.st-epsilon.net
http://foevideos.com/Video/ST%20day.avi
"Rule by the fear of force rather than through force itself." -The Tarkin Doctrine
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