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Thread: Ethics.

LauKe
Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:29 pm
#1

Discuss: Do's and donts (All your personal opinions)

Lets refrian from flaming, this is just a post (and something that needs to be organised).



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Zemon
Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:33 pm
#2






LauKe wrote:
Discuss: Do's and donts (All your personal opinions)

Lets refrian from flaming, this is just a post (and something that needs to be organised).





Ethics are personaly defined and thus, very subjectiv. Besides, what has Ethics got to with killing my mark? If I accept the assignment, then I have made the choice to hunt and take a life. My Ethics would only prevent me from endangering bystanders. But, my blaster fire can not hurt ohters (no gorup TEF), so that is null.


Expect to get flamed, as I expect others will have something to say about my post.





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GriffinsMyth
Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:34 pm
#3

Its always relative, relative to the Hunter, to the hunters mood, to the mark, to the marks mood, to the hunters previous mark.


Personally, I dont like shooting chicks, but I hate rebs more, but above all, I like getting paid. So, while I may have some nudgings toward being extra nice, they will easily be outweighed by my greed and/or lust for combat. Basically, I am not above holding your daughter at gunpoint to make you come out into the open unarmed, but if you're a chick, I'll say sorry afterwards.


FullContact
Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:39 pm
#4

BHers have none and apart from being hypocritical with double standards, they have no hope since they feel SWG focuses around them.


Please move on.





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OkthaJ
Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:47 pm
#5

Ethics? Whats that?I dont have anything called Ethics!
Zemon
Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:49 pm
#6






LauKe wrote:
Discuss: Do's and donts (All your personal opinions)

Lets refrian from flaming, this is just a post (and something that needs to be organised).





I have been thinking about your question, because I like a good debate. The results thus far, a debate with myself....


We shall use an example:


Our Jedi is in the middle of a player event that has been organized and advertised far in advance. It is her weading. I take the mission. I track the mark. I arive at the weading. Numerous guest are there, the event is well organized. I can see that much planning and work has gone into this. The vows are being said and it's well written and very emotional.


I know that if I attack, most of the guest will be upset. The bride (my mark) will be most upset. Win or lose, the hate tells and forum flames will not be quenched.


Now, what would you or I do, based on "ethics"


If I was part of the event, I would most likely be upset. If this was well scripted in a movie, I would be most entertained.


I play this game for my personal entertainment. I think the ethics should be left to wether I use an exploit or not, not if I should hunt a Jedi or how I should kill him......



Now, the discussion......





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Umbra_Domini
Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:49 pm
#7

My big ethical thing used to be faction. You just don't kill jedi of the same faction as you.


However, that's all changed recently, since the last 3 rebel Jedi (my BH is Imp)I chased down were grinding away alongside Imp jedi (in the same group), and the Imp jedi were the ones giving me grief.


No more.... faction be damned. Kill em all and let God sort em out.





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Umbra_Domini
Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:55 pm
#8




I have been thinking about your question, because I like a good debate. The results thus far, a debate with myself....


We shall use an example:


Our Jedi is in the middle of a player event that has been organized and advertised far in advance. It is her weading. I take the mission. I track the mark. I arive at the weading. Numerous guest are there, the event is well organized. I can see that much planning and work has gone into this. The vows are being said and it's well written and very emotional.


I know that if I attack, most of the guest will be upset. The bride (my mark) will be most upset. Win or lose, the hate tells and forum flames will not be quenched.


Now, what would you or I do, based on "ethics"


If I was part of the event, I would most likely be upset. If this was well scripted in a movie, I would be most entertained.


I play this game for my personal entertainment. I think the ethics should be left to wether I use an exploit or not, not if I should hunt a Jedi or how I should kill him......



Now, the discussion......








Heh... first, it's a game. Weddings in a game, IMHO, are ludicrous... unless you're playing Barbie and Ken.


Personally, if I happened across my mark in the middle of saying his/her vows, I'd be hard pressed to keep from wetting myself. What a perfect situation!!


I'd wait for the "I do", shout "No, you don't", and proceed to try and make one of them a widow/widower.



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GriffinsMyth
Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:56 pm
#9

Right there, that got me thinking, the wedding thing. Honestly, I dont think I'd go for the kill while she says her vows or whatever, but what are the odds of that happening huh. Ok, we've found one instance were, at most, I'd wait until she cuts the cake.
Eleutherios
Sun Sep 04, 2005 8:18 pm
#10

If I took a payout, I wouldn't DB. That's pretty much the only ethics I have during a hunt.



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hightyebeets
Sun Sep 04, 2005 8:19 pm
#11






Eleutherios wrote:

If I took a payout, I wouldn't DB. That's pretty much the only ethics I have during a hunt.





iadhere tothis strict ethical code as well.




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TonieStark
Sun Sep 04, 2005 8:24 pm
#12

Well I'll define it as such (for me of course) :


If I say I am going to do something I do it. If I tell you I am going to drop the misioin I will. if I give you my word that i won't attack if you come out of your house , I won't.


However I have been sneaky and told a mark's freind I was a noob that needed help so I could get closer to kill the mark. Idid not shoot at a Jedi flying around in his jetpack (did not shoot the pack), giving up surpise and the match but I have killed Jedi that are AFK or low on force. It's a complicated thing in regards to this game but I think it personally boils down to honesty for me. If I take money and tell you I won't DB I won't . If I pretend to be in a grind group so I can kill the Jedi sneakily in the middle of a grind I will. Like I said it's complicated.





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Zemon
Sun Sep 04, 2005 8:41 pm
#13


Are we debating Ethics or Honor?


Ethics
Pronunciation: 'e-thik
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English ethik, from Middle French ethique, from Latin ethice, from Greek EthikE, from Ethikos
1 plural but singular or plural in construction : the discipline dealing with what is good and bad and with moral duty and obligation
2 a : a set of moral principles or values b : a theory or system of moral values ethic> c plural but singular or plural in construction : the principles of conduct governing an individual or a group ethics> d : a guiding philosophy


Honor

Pronunciation: 'ä-n&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old French honor, from Latin honos, honor
1 a : a keen sense of ethical conduct. b : one's word given as a guarantee of performance






If I take a payoff and keep my promise to not attack or DB....


Ethicly, am I wrong for taking the payoff?


Honoraly, am I right for keeping my word?







Honor and integraity: I hold honor above all esle.



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