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Thread: Wow.. you must really have to hate players who play Jedi (My First Jedi Hunt)
I wont be doing it again.
First thing I noticed was nearly every bounty was 221-228k credits. Way out of my league, being new to PvP. So, I keep looking, I find one with one in the mid hundreds, I figure Ill give it a shot. I add them to my friend list... oops, offline. This went on for 3-4 more and then I found one who was online.
I go down to the beach by Kadaara, launch my droid.
"Due to the high number of lifesigns on Kashyyk...."
Double you tee eff. I figure its an AFK grinder on Ryatt trails. And I dont feel like crawling through nine instances, burst running past those darn spiders every time, just so I can get the enjoyment of shooting an AFK player. That just doesnt seem fun to me.
So I keep trying, everyone who was below 200k, was in Kashyyk. I finally get tired of wasting droids so I pick a 225k who is online, I track them down. "Hmm, they are in an Imperial town. Ah well maybe they are just shopping." (I am Imperial and don't want to hunt other Imperials.) So I get there, I track them to where they are specificially. They are in a house, I tell them to come out. They are Imperial. I tell them "Bah, you're Imperial." and drop the mission and leave.
I was pretty fed up at this point, so I found another 225k, who I thought I remembered as a Rebel. I find him sitting with some girl in an unlocked house outside Coronet. He is Imperial. I fight him a bit anyway but of course I was way out of my league, I got incapped, the girl kicked us both out of her house, and I left.
My conclusion after this experience:
1) It's not exciting.
2) It's not profitable.
3) It's tedious and poorly designed.
And, a Bounty Hunter must really REALLY have some Jedi hate to be able to do this for hours a day.
I'll stick to kimogilas!
Dekar_Corvus wrote:
well said, its really makes ya wonder why they hate us so much. the only thing that makes us different, is we had to play and grind alot longer then anyone else, to get our skills.....we cant get full templated in an hour or two like all other professions...
Now that is one of the reasons.
I hate them mainlyfor the reason they hate us. After all we're the only profession ingame who get harassed for doing our job.
Sure it might be frustrating from time to time, and I know this job isn't for everyone but thats just part of the job. And the hate tells you get are priceless. 
NKD-SWG wrote:
My conclusion after this experience:
1) It's not exciting.
2) It's not profitable.
3) It's tedious and poorly designed.
you wont hunt imps
you wont hunt on kashyykk(most noob jedi are there anyways)
Dekar_Corvus wrote:
well said, its really makes ya wonder why they hate us so much. the only thing that makes us different, is we had to play and grind alot longer then anyone else, to get our skills.....we cant get full templated in an hour or two like all other professions...
please, thats one of the reasons WHY we hunt you. Most of you jedi's think you are all high and might and act as if you're Star War GODS. I have been a jedi with one of my accounts and I think it's actually quite boring. OOHH, look mom, I can kill stuff with my glowstick. As a BH I can kill pretty much anything in PvE that a Jedi can, and atleast I have other options in this game to keep it fun. I was bored with my jedi within 2 weeks. So can I act like my sh*t don't stink too?
actually, jedi do grind more then you, its a numerical fact.
to get MBH - WAS ALOT HARDER BEFORE, but is easy now.( keep in mind its ben reduced, u used to require two masteries to get it)
you need xxx4 marksmen and 4xxx scout
then you have rifle/carb/pistol XP for the rest of BH. This can be done in an hour or 2. get a group hunt on dant.the only hard part is INVESTIGATION. this will likely take you a day or so of hard grinding. but can be done. i did when i had to hologrind my jedi.
tada, your now a mbh. now u go out and hunt till u finish ur ranged temp, should not take long in a hunt group.
lets start over and try to be a jedi....
First off, this was also harder before.
previous, ol school jedi had to grind like a mofo.
with a minimum of 4+ complete masteries. and i doubt hardly anyone unlocked after 4. on average it was about 12-15 masteries. i myself grinded 26 INCLUDING MBH the old method that needed two masteries just to get!
Once they ya got jedi, you needed MEGA XP just to advance. our tier 4 box is 1.6 million jedi XP...WHICH CAME AT A RATE THAT COMBAT XP USED TO COME AT.
now, its alot different then the old ways.
to be jedi now, you gotta run around and do theme parks, visit places ext...not really hard, but annoying. if u try hard enough, maybe an hour or two tops. maybe less if u get guild help, but give or take an hour if ya try.
then, you gotta make sure ur glowy, when ur glowy, u wait 1-3 DAYS to get first visit, then 1-3 days for sith,
once in the village, you gotta do boring tedious missions to unlock 1-6 branches. HOWEVER, you can only do two, per phase ( so if its not the tree you want, u gotta wait more)
assuming you unlock a tree you want, u then gotta grind CRAZY amount of XP.
200k tier 1, 400k tier 2, 800 tier 3 1.6 mil tier 4......oh but wait, this is not regular grind, its FS XP!
the only way to get FS XP is trading it in at the village, at a rate of 30 regular weapon XP for 1 FS XP, or 3:1 combat. this will take AGES TO DO! even for master grinders... ( obviously there is tricks, like using nades to capitolize on combat XP, but still takes a long time)
Should someone be cleaver, and hard working enough to get the XP, he needs, he now has to wait till the next ppase to come. and repeat the process for 6 brances. this will take a MINIMUM of a few months, since its 3-4 weeks per phase.
alas the 6 branches are done......phew, that sucked. now we get to wait more....we need the ol man to come again, takes 1-3 days. then u need a TOUGH group to help kill mellechai. he is uber tough, and has purple gaurds. assuming u get good help and dont die, u get a WP to the FS shrine.....
tada your......almost a jedi.
you still have the trials....in order to get saber and robes, you still need to pass 16 quest. while not hard, they are time consuming. mostly impart cause they dont spawn, and you gotta restart the whole quest over again if it screws up. if ur lucky, 1-2 hours you can do them. sometimes longer dpending on how bugged they are that day.
ok now what....you got ur saber, and robes, but it cost you a good portion of your social life, on top of that, u had to drop some of ur uber ranged skills to make room for the FS skills, and novice jedi skills. Now you get to swing ur saber, that does crap damage, since pearls dont spawn decent crystals. for the most part, u do this alone, since VIS will get ya killed. in all honesty, grouping with other jedi is worth the vis in order to get XP faster, but all it takes is one disgruntled BH who is to lazy to grind jedi, or hates them so much to kill you and cost you all that you have worked for.
how hard is it for me to grind jedi, after all i just spent 5 months grinding FS just to be one?
well, its long ( 2x Xp helps alot) but on average u get 1100XP for a lvl 82 mob. and , just like FS skills, its takes a much larger amount of XP per skill, 200k tier 1, 400k tier 2, 800k tier 3, and 1.6 tier 4 ---- the only difference, is now u dont have uber ranged skills, and you fear for your life from people who hate you for very little actual reason.
ok so now that we took a brief look at how to become each, i'd say jedi INDEED grind more then anyone else, and have worked VERY hard for there skills, which , due to the whining of noobs to lazy to be one themselves, have been nerfed to the ground.
like i mentioned in another post, a BH/mSmuggler can wtfpwn a jedi without taking a hit. full temped or not. ranged arms, so u can hit him from 80m away, and concussion/stoppingshot for the win.....if they cloak, which they may try to do, send a droid to them....cant cloak with pets or droid nearby... that my friends is more overpowered then any jedi....
I play both Jedi and Bh, in all honestly, jedi is more fun for RP'ing, but BH will mess them up if played right.
sad part is i spent 2 years grinding my template for jedi, to be nerfed into nothing, and have our only content ( frs ) removed. while the devs make us into another professions content.
oh, and by the way, dont even start with that " you choose a profession that that you knew would be hunted" crap, cause that dont fly with me...
as many jedi grinded this profession before we even knew for sure it was in the game. and even after it was unlocked the first jedi, there was no such thing as player bounties, until a few hotfixes and patches later...so many of us grinded and spent LOTS of time for a profession we knew very little about, only to have our play experience griefed by BH to lazy to do it themelves, and have nothing better to do with there time. And since SOE cant come up with real content for there BH/smugglar players, we get to lose our valuable playtime to bh....
that being said, S-T-F-U.....
Dekar_Corvus wrote:
actually, jedi do grind more then you, its a numerical fact.
to get MBH - WAS ALOT HARDER BEFORE, but is easy now.( keep in mind its ben reduced, u used to require two masteries to get it)
you need xxx4 marksmen and 4xxx scout
then you have rifle/carb/pistol XP for the rest of BH. This can be done in an hour or 2. get a group hunt on dant.the only hard part is INVESTIGATION. this will likely take you a day or so of hard grinding. but can be done. i did when i had to hologrind my jedi.
tada, your now a mbh. now u go out and hunt till u finish ur ranged temp, should not take long in a hunt group.
lets start over and try to be a jedi....
First off, this was also harder before.
previous, ol school jedi had to grind like a mofo.
with a minimum of 4+ complete masteries. and i doubt hardly anyone unlocked after 4. on average it was about 12-15 masteries. i myself grinded 26 INCLUDING MBH the old method that needed two masteries just to get!
Once they ya got jedi, you needed MEGA XP just to advance. our tier 4 box is 1.6 million jedi XP...WHICH CAME AT A RATE THAT COMBAT XP USED TO COME AT.
now, its alot different then the old ways.
to be jedi now, you gotta run around and do theme parks, visit places ext...not really hard, but annoying. if u try hard enough, maybe an hour or two tops. maybe less if u get guild help, but give or take an hour if ya try.
then, you gotta make sure ur glowy, when ur glowy, u wait 1-3 DAYS to get first visit, then 1-3 days for sith,
once in the village, you gotta do boring tedious missions to unlock 1-6 branches. HOWEVER, you can only do two, per phase ( so if its not the tree you want, u gotta wait more)
assuming you unlock a tree you want, u then gotta grind CRAZY amount of XP.
200k tier 1, 400k tier 2, 800 tier 3 1.6 mil tier 4......oh but wait, this is not regular grind, its FS XP!
the only way to get FS XP is trading it in at the village, at a rate of 30 regular weapon XP for 1 FS XP, or 3:1 combat. this will take AGES TO DO! even for master grinders... ( obviously there is tricks, like using nades to capitolize on combat XP, but still takes a long time)
Should someone be cleaver, and hard working enough to get the XP, he needs, he now has to wait till the next ppase to come. and repeat the process for 6 brances. this will take a MINIMUM of a few months, since its 3-4 weeks per phase.
alas the 6 branches are done......phew, that sucked. now we get to wait more....we need the ol man to come again, takes 1-3 days. then u need a TOUGH group to help kill mellechai. he is uber tough, and has purple gaurds. assuming u get good help and dont die, u get a WP to the FS shrine.....
tada your......almost a jedi.
you still have the trials....in order to get saber and robes, you still need to pass 16 quest. while not hard, they are time consuming. mostly impart cause they dont spawn, and you gotta restart the whole quest over again if it screws up. if ur lucky, 1-2 hours you can do them. sometimes longer dpending on how bugged they are that day.
ok now what....you got ur saber, and robes, but it cost you a good portion of your social life, on top of that, u had to drop some of ur uber ranged skills to make room for the FS skills, and novice jedi skills. Now you get to swing ur saber, that does crap damage, since pearls dont spawn decent crystals. for the most part, u do this alone, since VIS will get ya killed. in all honesty, grouping with other jedi is worth the vis in order to get XP faster, but all it takes is one disgruntled BH who is to lazy to grind jedi, or hates them so much to kill you and cost you all that you have worked for.
how hard is it for me to grind jedi, after all i just spent 5 months grinding FS just to be one?
well, its long ( 2x Xp helps alot) but on average u get 1100XP for a lvl 82 mob. and , just like FS skills, its takes a much larger amount of XP per skill, 200k tier 1, 400k tier 2, 800k tier 3, and 1.6 tier 4 ---- the only difference, is now u dont have uber ranged skills, and you fear for your life from people who hate you for very little actual reason.
ok so now that we took a brief look at how to become each, i'd say jedi INDEED grind more then anyone else, and have worked VERY hard for there skills, which , due to the whining of noobs to lazy to be one themselves, have been nerfed to the ground.
like i mentioned in another post, a BH/mSmuggler can wtfpwn a jedi without taking a hit. full temped or not. ranged arms, so u can hit him from 80m away, and concussion/stoppingshot for the win.....if they cloak, which they may try to do, send a droid to them....cant cloak with pets or droid nearby... that my friends is more overpowered then any jedi....
I play both Jedi and Bh, in all honestly, jedi is more fun for RP'ing, but BH will mess them up if played right.
sad part is i spent 2 years grinding my template for jedi, to be nerfed into nothing, and have our only content ( frs ) removed. while the devs make us into another professions content.
oh, and by the way, dont even start with that " you choose a profession that that you knew would be hunted" crap, cause that dont fly with me...
as many jedi grinded this profession before we even knew for sure it was in the game. and even after it was unlocked the first jedi, there was no such thing as player bounties, until a few hotfixes and patches later...so many of us grinded and spent LOTS of time for a profession we knew very little about, only to have our play experience griefed by BH to lazy to do it themelves, and have nothing better to do with there time. And since SOE cant come up with real content for there BH/smugglar players, we get to lose our valuable playtime to bh....
that being said, S-T-F-U.....
I could have sworn I heard the world's smallest violin playing in the background while reading that....
Brought a tear to my eye.
Because you choose to submit yourself to such tedious, boring, gameplay does not mean you are any better, or any more commited to the game then any other player. I've been playing for 730 days according to /getvet and because you are a jedi you think you're better then i am? Get a god damn clue you pompous idiot.
If you want to impress me with your "hard work" go become a king crab fisherman.
You jedi are your own worst enemy, blame yourselves. The more of you there are the more power you will lose in order to maintain some kind of semblence of balance in this game. And for your content, the frs, well you can again thank your own kind for getting that taken out. Because of the vast number of jedi exploiters, who exploit to avoid any type of 'hard work' you got your content removed.
You should be encouraging bh's to kill your kind, the fewer jedi there are the more powerful you will be. Instead you want everything served to you on a silver platter because you had to sit around watching tv with your macro running killing wookies and my god that was hard.
Message Edited by Voodoo2484 on 07-03-2005 01:32 PM
glade it made ya cry lmao
that was not my intent though. i love playing both sides...as a bh it is fun to hunt live prey ( since devs cant make decent content)
as a jedi, i love to rp him....as a benevolent knight. always trying to do what he must. the concept of jedi is great, i just wish this game had of utilized it better.
if the game where 10 years down the line more, or even better, taking place in the old republic, it woulda been much better, then they simply coulda made jedi a regular profession, and balanced it equal to all other combat professions.... but meh...just my opinion
as many jedi grinded this profession before we even knew for sure it was in the game. and even after it was unlocked the first jedi, there was no such thing as player bounties, until a few hotfixes and patches later...so many of us grinded and spent LOTS of time for a profession we knew very little about,
So you don't consider stuff like permadeath, saber TEF and the fact that lore-wise a galactic government ofa million worlds wants your hide an indication that jedi might be a bit... "rough"?
As for the "wha wha wha look at all the exp I had to get", want a cookie?