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Thread: Why do BH's think Jedi are supposed to stand there and die?
I have been reading threads crying for: stasis nerfs, cloak nerfs (you won that one), force run nerfs, and pretty much every other ability we use to stay alive is supposed to be nerfed. Let me ask you this - if you can paralyze and apply 5 or so debuffs, why aren't we allowed to kd/stasis and regen force? Jedi missions are supposed to be difficult, that's why only MBH's can take them (another thing i've seen people crying about).
*puts flame blanket on*
the day jedi don't have a foolproof way of escape (in this case cloak or FR...but it might as well be any exploit...As they DO love exploiting) a lot of them will quit.
most jedi are just a bunch a whiney little brats who do not realise what class they are playing...who refuse to live with the consequences of their OWN CHOICE to play this class
I seriously think a lot of jedi only have 4-5 buttons in their hotbar....
-single target attack
-spin attack
-cloak/FR3
-FR2
-Channel
and BH don't think jedi should stand there and die......but they also don't think you should be forcerunning 2 hours straight
most jedi than run or cloak by default are just to ignorant to realise they'd win a lot of the BH encounters because there's loads of BH that suck as much as they do (the jedi alt BH's maybe?).....and with equally bad players the jedi will usually win...
BloodMonk wrote:the day jedi don't have a foolproof way of escape (in this case cloak or FR...but it might as well be any exploit...As they DO love exploiting) a lot of them will quit.
most jedi are just a bunch a whiney little brats who do not realise what class they are playing...who refuse to live with the consequences of their OWN CHOICE to play this class
I seriously think a lot of jedi only have 4-5 buttons in their hotbar....
-single target attack
-spin attack
-cloak/FR3
-FR2
-Channel
and BH don't think jedi should stand there and die......but they also don't think you should be forcerunning 2 hours straight
most jedi than run or cloak by default are just to ignorant to realise they'd win a lot of the BH encounters because there's loads of BH that suck as much as they do (the jedi alt BH's maybe?).....and with equally bad players the jedi will usually win...
Cloak and FR is not an exploit. And to be honest, most exploiting I've seen has been fromt he BHers trying to kill me. I've had ONE BH use 3 exploits to try and kill me and still fail, lol.
Also, Jedi are not required to fight, I don't always feel up to it or am busy with something, so I am not going fight all the time. I do have a schedule.
Message Edited by Orthell on 09-25-2005 08:35 AM
So yes, i will strike when a jedi is incapped or afk, even if there loading in on occassion.
I wont exploit and i expect the same of a jedi. I also welcome the possibility of them running, because i will sit outside there house for as long as it takes.
If a jedi just stood there and let me kill him, i'd be ticked.
Personally i think thats how one should hunt, but hey thats me. I think the biggest problems are these 9 year old kids who assume the jedi will insult them so they start it.
Me, trash talk is for idiots. I just say "Good fight" either way, if i kill them /nod.
If you treat a jedi well you can make friends... So people ought to learn respect and relaxation...
Wow... I ranted quite a bit there
yeah, i agree with this guy, jedi suck and should die all the time
BloodMonk wrote:
most jedi are just a bunch a whiney little brats who do not realise what class they are playing...who refuse to live with the consequences of their OWN CHOICE to play this class
most jedi are just a bunch a whiney little brats who do not realise what class they are playing...who refuse to live with the consequences of their OWN CHOICE to play this class"""
This is the bull i am talking about, your generalizations breed hate for both sides and show really how imature you are!
A. Its a game, so there is no need to be rude.
B. How do you know there aren't cool and laid back jedi, in my 'career' i have met so many amazing players who are some of the kindest and best people for my server.
Honestly, when it comes down to it, no-one is going to help out neophytes like you.
Grow up
Message Edited by Checito on 09-25-2005 08:39 AM
Also when i'm on the BH forums its like, auto target for the whiners
Sorry dude...
Cloak and FR is not an exploit.
where did I say that? they are however a foolproof way of escape...you have to be mentally challenged or afk not to get away with either of these skills.....So they are fairly lame skills imo (3 cheers to SOE for introducing filthy rogues into swg)
And to be honest, most exploiting I've seen has been fromt he BHers trying to kill me. I've had ONE BH use 3 exploits to try and kill me and still fail, lol.
-(multi)sliced sabers
-overloaded sabers
-speedhacks
-faction base abuse (not an official exploit, but certainly not working as intended)
-FIGHTCLUBS
no to mention all the player griefing with jedi thugs killstealing all the time (pre-curb)
Also, Jedi are not required to fight, I don't always feel up to it or am busy with something, so I am not going fight all the time. I do have a schedule.
I hear that a lot, yet most jedi saying that prefer 2 hours of forcerun/sitting in a house over a short fight, even if they have nothing to lose (yes jedi have it easy now when it comes to xp loss....But even full template jedi STILL whine about it)
My philosphy is this, i am a hunter and i am not honorable. I will do everything to make sure my mark is dead, and i never give up untill one of us is dead.
3 cheers for you ![]()
i love hearing the same jedi claiming one day that they should be SOOOOO powerfull you should only be able to kill them in a sneaky way....yet start an enourmous whine when a BH actually does it to them....
B. How do you know there aren't cool and laid back jedi, in my 'career' i have met so many amazing players who are some of the kindest and best people for my server.
there are, they're a minorty.....so called alpha classes always attract the worst kind of people, leading to a big % of very unpleasant jedi....
I have loads of jedi which I call friends (or I like em at the very least)......people who act normally to be I treat with respect....90% of the targets I run in to do not in any case fall in to that category, they are just annoying, arrogant potty mouth l33t kiddies, or adults who think and ACT like they are better than everyone (running or cloaking with their glowie stick)
I quit the game for 6 months, within 2 weeks of coming back I had a full set of layered jedi hunting armour, factoin amour, several grinding suits, double capped weapons, food and all I needed...
I got it from both REBELS and IMPERIALS.....so I guess you're way off on "what it comes down to" I justdo not like the majority of the skilless overpampered jedi-whiners...
djeez one of the guys brining me up to speed with the curb even was a rebel jedi (and yes I'm imp)...why....because he likes fighting people like me that don't talk **edit** unless spoken to (which happens on a daily base with these newbs jedi cupcakes)
fact is....most jedi will keep on whining till they single handedly can take down 20 regular players....And most likely untill they can do that they will still only know one way to fight.........cloak or FR.
just face the fact they are mostly acting like little spoiled children...if you don't believe me...check the prof forums.........check the jedi and BH forum....then check smugger/carbineer/SL........HUGE difference in attitude
By the way, I've never met a Jedi I couldn't catch up with by either unequipping my weapon and hitting burst run or jumping on my barc and storing it when I'm about 45 m away then hitting them with my underhand shot. The key thing to remember is that they're probably not running anywhere in particular--they're just running away.
BloodMonk wrote:
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jedibounty hunters are just a bunch a whiney little brats who do not realise what class they are playing...who refuse to live with the consequences of their OWN CHOICE to play this class
Fixed. The consequence is to be hunted, not to be forced to fight.
and BH don't think jedi should stand there and die......but they also don't think you should be forcerunning 2 hours straight
Bounty hunters get the first shot advantage. If a Jedi chooses not to stick around, that's his (or her) choice. I seriously doubt that when you go to Dathomir you fight every rancor that aggroes you. Running is a legitimate option. A "real" Jedi would only fight when he absolutely had to.
most jedi than run or cloak by default are just to ignorant to realise they'd win a lot of the BH encounters because there's loads of BH that suck as much as they do (the jedi alt BH's maybe?).....and with equally bad players the jedi will usually win...
From the sound of your rant, you must be one of those "equally bad players."
Message Edited by KammaRocca on 09-25-2005 09:17 AM