Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Jedi VS BH
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Klink-Darkmoon
Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:58 am
#1
i've been reading the forums all day and all i see are complaints from jedis and bhs.
i'd like to post an opinion here.
the truth of the matter is, at this point and time where the game is created, there was Luke, Obi-Won, Yoda, Vader and the emperor. Now on my shadowfire server, i'm seeing about 1 in every 50 people i see are jedi. i don't like this. i personally didn't buy the game to be a jedi and i don't think the game was made for jedi. i think it is unfair that the jedi get the attention that they do and the other professions do not. jedi havn't been around as long as the other professions and it is unfair that they get a revamp before a profession that really needs it, for example bount hunter.
most of the jedi posts i have seen complain about PvP and about bounty hunters camping bodys ect. well..... i think its only fair. since jedi are so strong, they get xp really quickly. once a person has unlocked their jedi character, it is easy to become a high level jedi. most of the people that have unlocked them by now are power gamers anyway. bounty hunters should be able to do whatever they can to control jedi. with so many high level out there, its almost impossible for a bh to take them. a medium level jedi can totally own a master bh. and once they are able to get saber blocks its pretty much all over for any kind of ranged attack.
for those of you with jedi characters, congrats. but don't complain so much. be gratefull you are even aloud to have a jedi.
please fix bh. lowering the skill reqs was a good start but balance us in combat please
Charan
Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:04 am
#2
Klink-Darkmoon wrote:
Now on my shadowfire server, i'm seeing about 1 in every 50 people i see are jedi. i don't like this.
We don't care. We worked MUCH harder than you just to GET to our class. We didn't make the design choice to put Jedi in the game. The devs did. So please, get out of the forum we belong in (and you don't) and if you have problems mail em to the devs. We're pretty much sick of your constant whining.
Vorbis
Bria
earlmarinus
Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:12 am
#3
Charan wrote:
Klink-Darkmoon wrote:
Now on my shadowfire server, i'm seeing about 1 in every 50 people i see are jedi. i don't like this.
We don't care. We worked MUCH harder than you just to GET to our class. We didn't make the design choice to put Jedi in the game. The devs did. So please, get out of the forum we belong in (and you don't) and if you have problems mail em to the devs. We're pretty much sick of your constant whining.
Vorbis
Bria
Your right you work harder to get your Jedi but I also been patient in game to have alot of my problems fixed with my profession since I been MBH the first month in the game. I do agree that Jedi needed a revamp but where the hell do you get off saying you worked harder for a revamp. We all put our money into the game and time so technically speaking by me being patient I have worked as hard as you.
PhilleousFogg
Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:17 am
#4
i personally didn't buy the game to be a jedi and i don't think the game was made for jedi
Hello?
This game is called Star Wars Galaxies.
Last timeI checked Star Wars was a film about Jedi.
BH? who? if they removed them from the Star Wars story you are left with what?
.. That would be the same Star Wars story.
since jedi are so strong, they get xp really quickly
Are you for real?
It takes at most 2 weeks for a casual gamer to master any profession, except.. wait for it... you got it... Jedi.
Please tell me what you think quick is, personally i think 3 months is quick for jedi, and thats not to master, just to get to knight trials.
please fix bh. lowering the skill reqs was a good start but balance us in combat please
Now I know they gave you your own forum, shoo!
Charan
Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:19 am
#5
And no sane, resonable Jedi will say you guys don't deserve your own revamp. The reality of this is that WE (Jedi) don't control the Develpment Cycle. We have in no way personally moved any revamps around to suit our needs. The devs make these decisions, and we get to catch the grief for it. Literally in some cases. Read that again, in no way did i say we worked harder so deserve a revamp. I said we worked harder to GET to our class, that the DEVS put in the game. We are following the rules the devs laid out in their vision for this game. Gosh I'm sorry you guys don't like it,but whining at us, to us, about us,or in our forum isn't gonna help you a bit.
Ice-Cold
Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:18 am
#6
PhilleousFogg wrote:
i personally didn't buy the game to be a jedi and i don't think the game was made for jedi
Hello?
This game is called Star Wars Galaxies.
Last timeI checked Star Wars was a film about Jedi.
BH? who? if they removed them from the Star Wars story you are left with what?
.. That would be the same Star Wars story.
since jedi are so strong, they get xp really quickly
Okay, first of all, this IS Star Wars Galaxies, it is not the films, where do you see an Artisan in the films?
The Star Wars story wasnt about Jedi, it was about the Galactic Civil War, and the fight for peace throughout the galaxy, sure we saw Jedi, but in the old republic, they where the fighters of peace, but there also the reason for the fall of the republic.
Then we see what people do to survive in the GCW, theres Smugglers, BH's, and many other classes, but where was Jedi after darth vader and the emperor whiped them out, there where only a few left, and those few where in hiding. Jedi do make the star wars story work, along with all other professions,but the fact that half the galaxy is Jedi is kinda NOT at all the star wars story, how ever you see it.
Jedi shouldnt be all powerful:
In the EU, TKA where Jedi Hunters, so really, they should actually beable to last more than 5 seconds with a Jedi. Mandalorians armor was specificaly designed to withstand the blasts from a lightsaber, and where also good enough warriors to defeat the Jedi, and in SWG, it seams to be like any other armor against lightsaber damage. Commandos, such as both the Clone Troopers, and the Mandalorian Shock Troopers, where also strong enough to defeat Jedi, but it seams Jedi have a Hidden move to block flamethrowers. Pistoleers, such as Jango Fett (who was a Master Pistoleer, who decided to kill for money, hence Bounty Hunter) defeated a few Jedi during the Clone Wars.
Anyway you put it, Jedi are just like any other profession, but are mentally stronger than other professions, they see things before it happens, this makes them stronger against attack, but it dont make them undefeatable, and anyone who's spent all there time trying for Jedi are only searching to be the most powerful player there is, are really Sad.
Basically, I dont want to see this game run by Jedi who are supposed to be in hiding, all the Developers seam to care about is Jedi, but during this time line, it seams like a profession that is really not needed.
Message Edited by Ice-Cold on 07-06-2004 07:23 PM
Nails1
Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:31 am
#7
I have to agree with Ice on this one:
/agree
You get people like this jerk who basically said: "I did x and I deserve a Jedi and by the way get out of MY forum" Blah ...blah ... blah...
Thats the kind of Jedi who is truly wrecking the game. So blinded by their insane quest for power that they lose sight of common decency.
Its not called "Jedi" wars. It's called "star wars". The jedi who you think should be all powerful because you worked for months on a terrible design idea to "get your jedi" are terribly sad examples of the great thing they wish to emulate.
Don't you get it? You should not exist.
All the jedi were killed.
So, tell me.. If Jedi were the end all be all in the galaxy, why are they extinct? Because the true power lies somewhere else...you might figure that out someday...
/agree
You get people like this jerk who basically said: "I did x and I deserve a Jedi and by the way get out of MY forum" Blah ...blah ... blah...
Thats the kind of Jedi who is truly wrecking the game. So blinded by their insane quest for power that they lose sight of common decency.
Its not called "Jedi" wars. It's called "star wars". The jedi who you think should be all powerful because you worked for months on a terrible design idea to "get your jedi" are terribly sad examples of the great thing they wish to emulate.
Don't you get it? You should not exist.
All the jedi were killed.
So, tell me.. If Jedi were the end all be all in the galaxy, why are they extinct? Because the true power lies somewhere else...you might figure that out someday...
Message Edited by Nails1 on 07-06-2004 11:33 AM
Charan
Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:34 am
#8
You're arguing game vision to a bunch of guys who have no control over the devs. We bought the game and we play the game. How we go about it isn't your concern. If the devs vision of the game includes Jedi, there will be Jedi. Don't fault us for playing the game the way it was intended. Instead show the devs your disgust, and cancel your account.
Nails1 wrote...
Don't you get it? You should not exist.
All the jedi were killed.
So, tell me.. If Jedi were the end all be all in the galaxy, why are they extinct? Because the true power lies somewhere else...you might figure that out someday...
Fellstaff
Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:37 am
#9
Call a DEV who cares, because the Jedi didn't write the code.
Nails1 wrote:
Thats the kind of Jedi who is truly wrecking the game. So blinded by their insane quest for power that they lose sight of common decency.
Nails1
Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:39 am
#10
Can you point out a "DEV" who cares? I can't seem to locate one...
They are more rare than Jedi...
They are more rare than Jedi...
Nails1
Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:43 am
#11
BTW-
If the DEVS wanted to make Naked butted monkeys who shoot flaming onion rings out of their Arses that slay all within 320m and they couldn't be blocked...
Truthfully, I don't care...
If the DEVS wanted to make Naked butted monkeys who shoot flaming onion rings out of their Arses that slay all within 320m and they couldn't be blocked...
Truthfully, I don't care...
Charan
Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:44 am
#12
haha ok i feel for you there. i've played most classes of the game and yeah getting dev attention to fix anythingis hard. but the devs have to code what marketing tells them is gonna sell. and bh's and jedi sell the game. soon enough bh's will be fixed and we should all be getting on just fine. Bh's hunting us, Us actually hiding, coming out only to pvp for our ranks. Will a single bh ever be measurably more powerful than a knight or master? nobody really knows. but hang in there and in a few months well ALL be alot happier. well hopefully...
nindustrial
Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:44 am
#13
PhilleousFogg wrote:
It takes at most 2 weeks for a casual gamer to master any profession, except.. wait for it... you got it... Jedi.
Please tell me what you think quick is, personally i think 3 months is quick for jedi, and thats not to master, just to get to knight trials.
I'm not disagreeing with anything you're pointing out, necessarily, just wanted to say that the definition of "casual gamer" is pretty loose, and I don't think you can make an assumption that any "casual gamer" can master a profession in two weeks.
I've been playing since a month after launch and have never yet mastered a profession. Yet, I still consider myself a casual gamer.
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