Bounty Hunter Archive

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Tucheck wrote:
I need to change a few things I think....I thought about it, and I never really said what I wanted to say.

I don't see anything wrong with Claok itself...as an ability. The problem I think I have it the ease of which it can be used. It's not very hard for an unsuspecting Jedi (the perfect BH target) to perform a KD and get 20m out to cloak, then wait for the TEF to expire, call in a Doc for buffs (all the while standing cloaked around other people), then if the BH is still there, rinse and repeat. It's the ultimate "time out" I'm not ready to fight for Jedi....not the "wow, that was a narrow escape".

Someone just tell me how using Cloak like this is any different then the broken house TEFs we JUST recieved a fix for and I'll re-think my opinion.

Both could not be attacked when less then 25m away (I stand at the door..lol), both could get buffed, both can regen force. And it's not even a Master ability.....now tell me how they are different, please.

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How is it different? In short, cloak costs force. Sitting in a house doesn't. The more people around, the more it costs.

First off, lets throw away the doc buff and meditate thing alltogether. You can't get buffed by a doc while cloaked other than with bugs, and you can't meditate after you've cloaked other than with bugs. And lets set the bugs aside for a moment and just talk about how these things are intended to work.

Lets look at it this way. You take a mission. Its your typical, average, everyday starport duelin Jedi. You motor out to the starport, lookin inconspicuous cause there are so many other people around. You sit there and watch your mark duel, biding your time, thinking about how you're gonna play this. You watch him duel, make note of his skills. You never see him cloak or use things like lightning or choke, so you don't know he's a cloaker.

He is in the middle of a duel, so you decide now is your moment, and open up on him with a KD. He somehow manages to get up, get healed, and realize he's gettin shot at by you in time to get a move on. You assume he's running so you chase and kite, but really, he's just looking for some breathing room to cloak in. He manages to make it to a clear spot and you see the dreaded +CLOAK+ go up over his head, and your radar clears. Poo.

You make a judgement call. You now no longer have the element of surprise (your "alpha strike" didn't get the job done). Some BHs will simply give up on such missions, and go get new ones, or else, they'll simply leave and come back a few hours (or even a day) later when they can once again enjoy the element of surprise. But not you, and not now. Suprise or no surprise, you're gonna kill this guy and you're gonna do it right now. He wants to hide from you using the force? Well, that'll work on you, but not on your tracking droids. we'll see how long he can keep that up. You stand right next to him, and send some tells to your buddies asking them to come out to you.

In the meantime, your cloaker has gotten bold. He's uncloaked a few times, hit you a bit, then KD'd you or rooted you and ran out to 25m to re-cloak. Its an annoyance more than anything. He's not killing you in these little outbursts, but you can't kill him, either. Even tho you realize now that he's a cloaked, you still haven't managed to root or snare or KD or daze or bleed (or whatever crowd control skill you have) to prevent him from doing this.

3-4 mins later, a couple of your buddies show up. You tell them to stay near you, and you start following your WP, and your cloaker is now losing force at a staggering rate. Using /channelForce to try and put his force back is ultimately useless. It would only delay the innevitable empty force bar for a few seconds, and it would mean that he'd have a 1000pt health pool when he did finally have to decloak. He now has only two real choices. He can try to run and hope his force bar holds up for the 2.5mins needed to erase the TEF and enter a house (with 3 player characters and their vehicles around, not likely), or else he can just uncloak and have it out with you now. You tell your buddies to put him on follow so that even if he KDs you, he stays within their range and can't recloak.

Thats it. This is pretty much a horrible set of circumstances and luck for you, and yet it still worked out fine. Why do I say that?

1) You were unable to gain a preparation advantage on your mark, since you didn't know he had cloak and thus couldn't prepare for it.
2) Your alpha strike failed to incap him.
3) Even after you realized he was a cloaker, you were unable to keep him from decloaking/recloaking at will.

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Tanks wrote:

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Rukahs wrote:

I'm a Lvl 74 Bh and Went after my mark , all was going good till his force runs out , so he cloaks mid battle and meditats right in front of me regens and his doc friend rebuffs him ,

Unless it is broken recently you can not meditate while cloaked.

then he uncloaks and we go at it again same thing he runs off cloaks and regens mid battle , and then does it a third time this battle lasted about 45 mins cause he was a wuss and would run off cloak and heal,

First Off BH TEF Should be no cloaking durning the fight , if they cant get in a house why be able to cloak

Second Off The Doc healing him causehis tef ran off cause he was cloaked so long

Cloak is a skill. Are you saying people should not be able to use their skills while in combat?

Yes I died cause i couldnt run off and hide , and yes lvl 74 vs 80 i should have died

What do you true bh think

I think people should stop complaining about Cloak. .

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TANKS FTW!!

QFE a very good question.....TANKS??

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rYsyn wrote:

.... But the ability of a Jedi to cloak and receive buffs without being attacked is a valid issue.

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This is the only valid argument in this whole thread. When there is a bug or a design problem with an ability we should try to get that fixed, not try to nerf the ability to hell and back.

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You'll never make a Jedi with that mentality Tanks

You all act like every single jedi has cloaking..... That is simply not true.