Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Duel exploit still ruining it.
Isn't it a general rule that if a thread contains details of how to perform an exploit it gets deleted?
So if duel/end duel is an exploit why is this thread still here?
And no, I've never used it. I consider it lame.
Whacked wrote:
neelong wrote:
Whacked wrote:
neelong wrote:
Perhaps your definition of exploit is skewed. Using a "kn own" bug for your advantage when you know its a "bug" is guess what? Its called "Exploit", and it is a bannable offense in my opinion of you /duel on a known BH knowing that if they have your mission they will turn red. Now I know that /duel is used in the game for people to "duel" each other but 90% of the time there is some type of correspondence between the two players before the /duel is even issued. Like " hey man you want to duel?" other guy is like "yea I am leetfully uberz yo lolz k /dule kthnxbye"
Ummm, they dont turn red. 'sides i've only used this once after group was harrassed by several BH. Turned out he was after me and even tho I was unprepared (no buffs) when he finally did start the fight, I sent him to the cloner. Think I posted about that enconter somewhere here. Oh yea, jedi forum under 'stupid BH stories' thread or something like that.
as for /duel: Not really. Occasionally as i'm running thru somewhere I get a random /duel request. Granted the majority of the time its at a starport or player city but it has happened out in the wilds while I was questing or whatnot.
Oh yea, /findFriend is supposed and intended to be used to find a friend, not a Jedi mark. Is that an exploit? after all the BH using /findFriend is not using it for its intended purpose. Can care less either way.
You also say the the guy needs to find a new profession if he gets so close to his mark that they can see him. Have you hunted many Jedi? I seriously doubt it. If you did you would know that you have to be within 80 meters of someone usually for them to become visible on your screen if they are in a hunting group. You may ask why would you want to see them? Well wouldn't it be great to see how much health they had? See how many MOBs were on them....... see what I am saying? Half the time you get don't get a name back from the droid so you don't even know who your mark is until you tab over them.
My main char is not a BH. Let me say this, of the last 11 BH that hunted me I did not do a /duel (like I said before I used it once and consider it cheesy not an exploit). I was not buffed and did not have a macro running. I saw them comming and figured they were after me or another jedi. Of those 11: 1 I ran from (was low on force and previously ate a holocron), 2 I was killed after draining my force twice and the fights lasted pretty long (might have won the second but made a tactical error). as for the remaining 8, I sent them to the cloners. Not too bad considering I took a 14 month break from the game and still learning how to PvP (SWG is the only MMO i've played where i've actually participated in PvP)
Understand its not a recommended game practice and it is a bug and if you use it is an exploit. Look up the definition exploit and apply it here and if you still say he sucks and needs to be a dancer instead, then there really isn't any reasoning with you. I suspect your a Jedi anyway and share the same dogmatic views as the rest of sheep that some how continually pour out of the dathomir village.
Dogmatic views? sheep? you do realize this is a game right?
As for your view, report the jedi using it and see what happens.
Report it and let us know what the reply ticket says.
My guess is that even if a Jedi gets 100 report tickets on them nothing will happen. Not because they are jedi but because the devs don't consider it an exploit, least not a bannable/suspension one.
Oh yea, the glowstick under my board name should clue you in as to what char I play the most
As I previously stated "skewed"
Sooo,...
Report them.
If Jedi using /duel has your panties all in a bunch, report them. If it really is an exploit like you say then action will be taken.
So instead of whining and crying about it, Report it!
Pretty simple really
Message Edited by neelong on 09-07-2005 09:12 AM
freak88 wrote:i just saw ep 2 again.
one thing is true, bh didnt hunt jedi, jedi hunted bh s, and when jedi dueled bh s, the bh s were decapitated in one hit.
i have the mace jango scene on reel mode, its the truth, and it looke like it hurt jango alot.
obi even kicked jango s arse without a saber ROFL. obi gave him the kung fu kick lol. jango was nothing more then a meatbag for jedi to whip up on, and boy did they ever.
when obi went to jango s "apartment" i thought jango was going to wet himself right there.
Cool, let's all go by the movies. Ok so how many Jedi are in this timeline? 4? Ok let's start there.
Nathanielstarr wrote:
Darka-ce wrote:
Nathanielstarr wrote:
Darka-ce wrote:
AD_Maj wrote:
Ok you guys arent hearing me.
Thats good and all but why do the jedi have to see you??
If you HAVE to be so close to a jedi to where they see you, pick up rifles for cover, or better yet invest some points in the cover line.
I try really really hard to not let jedi see me so I have the element of surprise. If you are standing close to them hunting krayts, im pretty damn sure they are gonna examine you and see see " Has mastered the bounty hunter profession. "
Amen brother,
You have to be in visual range for a Jedi to get a /duel on you. If you've been spotted at that range, then sorry sparky, you've already lost the element of suprise. Yes, I can understand the frustration if you are trying to play it cool, blend in (also meaning not wearing your MBH or Combat Medic tag) so you can catch your mark unwares. But it takes more skill than that. I see so many dumb mistakes by BHs. You walk around in RIS or COMP. You carry a scatter pistol or LLC. You actually WEAR YOUR TAG....DUH. You don't make your character non-searchable. Believe me when I tell you all this. If a Jedi has targeted you for a duel, he knew you were a BH to begin with. The trick is to slip in and not have them do this. At least right now, you have some "grading system" to test your sneakiness. Call it a pass/fail. If you can slip up to attack range to a Jedi and he doesn't /duel you, you're doing it properly. If he does... *buzz... you're out, you messed up somewhere.
Stop trying to dumb down the game and smarten your play-style instead.
Only you jedi are saying this crap....Master Force Weilder...figures. Master Exploit Weilder
And when did you respec your BH friend? Skippy, I've been MBH since Pub 6. Killed more than my share of Jedi who, had 85% saber block, had buffs, dealt "Saber damage" which I had zero resists against, could run and hide in their house DURING the fight, could have a posee' escort them around AND attack me, could have other Jedi heal and transfer force to them during a fight, so yeah...uh..been there done that. Come to me when you can say the same.
As for Master Exploit Wielder? Interesting, had your azz handed to you lately by a Master Powers have you? Otherwise, step off and move along.
I was killing jedi when you had to fight all their friends while the jedi themselves pulled a feign death and you only got 15k a pop...and you went to the other side....freaking traitorYou couldn't hack it when publish 20 hit I'm guessing.I'm one of the most known hunters on my server....Jedi that go BH and want to hunt jedi come to me to find out how....but yeah I'm going to complain about an exploit being used against us that isn't getting fixed. So go back to your own forum and go whine about your pearl drops!
Skippy,
I am still a BH on my main. I have been a BH since Jedi were grinding with holos. If you had read my post instead of my SIG, you'd have seen that it was an attempt to educate the newer BHs who are crying about the /duel "exploit". The message I was trying to convey is that if you have a Jedi /duel(ing) you, you've made a mistake in your approach. You have either not been stealthy enough, or worse yet, are carrying a BH weapon, or wearing a BH (and now a CM) tag or do not have your character as anonymous in the searches.
So my friend, stop perpetuating the hate and absorb the content and context of my original post. BHs now have it FAR FAR easier than ever and it has made the newer crop, lazy and subsequently instead of playing smarter, they do the same thing that the new Jedi do, they cry nerf.
If you are as "well-known" as you claim, then it greatly surprises me that you somehow, disagree with my message earlier. Perhaps since you are as tenured as you claim, you should also, be trying to teach the newer BHs how to hunt. Rather sad that "a freaking traitor" must do it for you. Finally, as to your point about going back to my own forums, skippy, if you take the time to search my past posts, you will see how I have championed many a BH cause. I have more than earned my right to post on the BHs forums. Teach the new BHs or do not, the choice is yours. I, on the other hand am more than happy to pass along what I know, to the newer crop.
Message Edited by Darka-ce on 09-07-2005 03:51 AM
OhBuggah wrote:
Your logic only works if the Jedi is standing around alone in the wilderness. In practical use most of the time there will be 10-15 standing around Theed. What should really happen is all of them should be concerned that one amongst them might be attacked when a bounty hunter shows up. As it is now, they all do /duel exploit and then the one who the BH has the mission will be the only one getting battle ready while the other continue to go abouts their business acting like monkeys with sabers dueling each other. It should be that when a BH shows up ALL the Jedi will fear him, not just the one who has his mission.
Darka-ce wrote:
Amen brother,
You have to be in visual range for a Jedi to get a /duel on you. If you've been spotted at that range, then sorry sparky, you've already lost the element of suprise. Yes, I can understand the frustration if you are trying to play it cool, blend in (also meaning not wearing your MBH or Combat Medic tag) so you can catch your mark unwares. But it takes more skill than that. I see so many dumb mistakes by BHs. You walk around in RIS or COMP. You carry a scatter pistol or LLC. You actually WEAR YOUR TAG....DUH. You don't make your character non-searchable. Believe me when I tell you all this. If a Jedi has targeted you for a duel, he knew you were a BH to begin with. The trick is to slip in and not have them do this. At least right now, you have some "grading system" to test your sneakiness. Call it a pass/fail. If you can slip up to attack range to a Jedi and he doesn't /duel you, you're doing it properly. If he does... *buzz... you're out, you messed up somewhere.
Stop trying to dumb down the game and smarten your play-style instead.
Sir,
As a BH, I never hunted a Jedi in a city. For too many reasons that I won't list here. A BH should stalk his prey. Find out where he lives, where he grinds, whom he hangs with. Strike when vulnerable and alone. NOT in a large city in a group of other Jedi. If you must hit a Jedi in a group, catch them grinding and hang back until half of the lair has been agroed. Strike then, while his force is low and he is not prepared for PvP (usually has hot key set on screen for grinding.
Whacked wrote:
Nathanielstarr wrote:
yeah suspicious is fine but /duel answers the question definitively. We can't have that. I am a known bh because I am good at killing jedi (hit 75 kills today) but a jedi should not be able to know for sure if I am or am not after them. Jedi travel in packs and all they have to do is duel you to see which one it is and then you get the jedi that you are after saying "lets just go then".
To the guy that said if it were against jedi it would be fixed already...you are right. Look how long it took the jedi tef bug that allowed jedi to run into their house to be fixed and that was a horrible bug.
Or that decent pearls havent dropped since the CU and prpbably wont be fixed until after expansion.
For the OP:
Get over it.
There is a difference between a bug and a exploit. Exploits will get you banned, suspended or a warning. Doing a /duel will not get you any of those. Its a BUG. Oh yea, and no Dev said its a exploit. They said its a problem and will be looked into.
BUT the real problem is, you need to get better Jedi hunting tactics or stick to NPC Marks. If Jedi has the time to cursor over your dot on radar, do a /target then a /examine, the jig is up already.
Dont treat Jedi bounties like NPC bounties and you'll see better results.
Heres an idea .... Give the MBH a "stealth field" that sort of works like the Jedi Cloak but only when the MBH is within say 60m of their mark and breaks if he gets within say 25m or opens fire of his/her mark. That way the MBH cant be targeted and /duel'ed and he/she will always get his "first strike" in.