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Thread: SWG = the new Jedi Knight game?

Ashuger
Sun Sep 11, 2005 9:57 am
#92

OMG, its our daily "too many jedi" thread. Spare us, please. We know, they won't change it, STOP WHINING!




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Mengster_dk wrote:


Text Jedi to 36723 (FORCE)
The_Marksman
Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:04 am
#93






Ashuger wrote:
OMG, its our daily "too many jedi" thread. Spare us, please. We know, they won't change it, STOP WHINING!






You know what....i dont give a damn about jedi, but i do want to be able to play a normal prof properly, so Jedi stop nerfing them will you!! or else!



DrElectman
Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:44 am
#94

i play this game so i could hunt like a true BH



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QuiJonOz
Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:51 am
#95






iosskman wrote:

How many times do people have to make this same post!? People play starwars to be jedi, if i wanted to be a commando id go play Ghost Recon if i wanted to be a pistoleer or rifleman ill go play a first person shooter but nope i wanna play jedi so ill buy a star wars game rofl.


/deletethread




About as many times as there are posts in the Jedi forums asking to get rid of XP loss and BH missions.




No decay + uber loot = /spit on crafters

Fix the economy and give crafters their $$$ worth... give us real revamp.

Remember... to Cancel you have to go to Register Expansion in the Launchpad.

QuiJonOz
Sun Sep 11, 2005 11:04 am
#96




Exactly what you said. People will leave and reguardless as to how much you, I or anyone else hates jedi this is an SWG community. To anger or say that they should be perma deathed is just suicide at this point in time as SOE needs every single account they can spare to keep this rock afloat for a little longer.







Undoubtedly some would leave, but I wonder how many would rant and yell on the forums before re-speccing to the PvP FotM? Because I think the problem with Jedi and the reason why there are so many is that it is an alpha class, so it attracts alpha PvP players who behave like anything but what Jedi should be.


Make Jedi less attractive to these players and most of them would re-spec to something like MBH/MCM (or whatever the non-Jedi FotM is currently). Sure, some would unsubscribe, but a lot more playerswould probablycome back.


The way to do it:

1) Warn the community (in game and out).

2) Give Jedi a chance to respec out (let them keep the second slot)

3) Remove Jedi from the GCW

4) Reinstitute saber-tef in NPC city limits (exception - if under a BH tef, this prevents saber-tef)

5) If killed while under saber-tef, respawn at a force shrine on Dathomir

7) Enable Guardian and Sith factions (or whatever you want to call Light and Dark side) with only Jedi able to be part of the factions. An FRS that only counts JvJ PvP.

8) Convert a couple of little used POIs for use as goals in JvJ combat.



No decay + uber loot = /spit on crafters

Fix the economy and give crafters their $$$ worth... give us real revamp.

Remember... to Cancel you have to go to Register Expansion in the Launchpad.

HeadRoll
Sun Sep 11, 2005 11:20 am
#97






QuiJonOz wrote:

The way to do it:

1) Warn the community (in game and out).

2) Give Jedi a chance to respec out (let them keep the second slot)

3) Remove Jedi from the GCW

4) Reinstitute saber-tef in NPC city limits (exception - if under a BH tef, this prevents saber-tef)

5) If killed while under saber-tef, respawn at a force shrine on Dathomir

7) Enable Guardian and Sith factions (or whatever you want to call Light and Dark side) with only Jedi able to be part of the factions. An FRS that only counts JvJ PvP.

8) Convert a couple of little used POIs for use as goals in JvJ combat.





Great ideas,

Natures-Ranger
Sun Sep 11, 2005 11:28 am
#98





Armengar7 wrote: you say put the old bh days back ok well put the old sabers back my friend make it so a bh with half a clue and a t-21 over 1000 dmg cant run up and just punch the jedi full of holes, please. get some skill then, and only then if u have a problem can u whine.( but keep in mind the old days where meant for 4-5 bh to kill a jedi not 1bhwith a half decent weapon.)but i agree as is jedi are to open about it... i walk around and see every other jedi with their sabers out, i think im one of the very few who never has my saber or robes equiped or title. but they need to fix something about it. idea why not make it so if 5 NPC or PC are within 60m of u with either the robes or saber equiped and imp/reb shuttle lands and about 20 high class mobs just open fire?. it sounds about right for me




Carefull my friend, old Jedi were maybe "powerfull" but they were easier to if you just knew what you were doing, i got to admit it was hard tracking Jedi pre-Pub9 cause of the buggy droids bla, bla... But if you found one, well, they would be either grinding with 80% Composite and a pritty sweet Saber OR dressed normally with no Saber or no Armor equipped that would lead to death in not to many shots even from a avrage weapon, they did not have the terrible 85% block even at Guardian 4444. So no, you dont just run in and "run up and just punch the jedi full of holes" but if you use your mind, good timing, patienceand someluck you would slice troughe a Guardian if you cought him by suprise! Back then it depended on the mitigation they had, insted of buffs and everything mitigated to mind it was often splitt on all three pools.. But then you had the diffrent specials and no weapon switch delay!




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Shamonue
Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:11 pm
#99


iosskman wrote:
How many times do people have to make this same post!? People play starwars to be jedi, if i wanted to be a commando id go play Ghost Recon if i wanted to be a pistoleer or rifleman ill go play a first person shooter but nope i wanna play jedi so ill buy a star wars game rofl.
/deletethread





Well let me throw this back at you. If I wanna play a Jedi, I'll go play - Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2, Jedi Knight 2: Outcast, Jedi Knight 3: Jedi Academy, Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 1, Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords, Star Wars Episode 3: Revenge of the Sith(the game), Star Wars: Jedi Power Battles, Star Wars Episde 1: The Phantom Meance(the game), Star Wars: Obi-Wan. Shall I go on? That's 10 games right there where you go to be a Jedi.
Now name any Star Wars games from the last 15 years that don't let you play as Jedi.
I can only name 2(I'm disregarding the X-Wing Versus TIE Fighter games, and most Star Wars flight sim-type games for sheer fact that Jedi can't logically be put in those).

Star Wars: Battlefront, and Star Wars: Republic Commando.
(Also as a side note, they're even putting playable Jedi in Battlefront 2, so Battlefront's pretty much dismissable as a non-Jedi game as well.)

So I say to you, go play any of those 10+ Jedi games I mentioned, and let us real Star Wars fans(who realize there's more to the movies than Jedi) play our game without the Star Wars novices having to come in and transform it into another Jedi-dominated game.

Message Edited by Shamonue on 09-11-2005 03:14 PM

**EDIT(again)**
It has come to my attention that iosskman's quote was actually sarcastic and he was making fun of the Jedi who scream that if you play Star Wars, you also play Jedi. In which case I apologize to iosskman, and remind everyone else else who misquoted him also.
Irregardless of his joke, to those who support Jedi so much in SWG, my comments remain the same.
To cover the other side of the "no Jedi in SWG" argument, I do have to defer to the Yoda "When gone I am, the last of the Jedi will you be" quote, much as everyone else has. If indeed what Yoda was saying was true, then the Jedi in SWG contradict that easily(not just existing, but in large numbers, to allow room for Yoda over-exagerrating the Jedi rarity). If he was lying when he said that, I have to wonder why someone would so blatantly lie about the truth like that on his deathbed. Granted, yes, the EU does say some Jedi survived. But the number of Jedi that survived, even in the EU were less than 10(ok I'll be very lenient here,less than 20). Not any number remotely approaching the hundreds, even thousands, of Jedi that exist in the timeline as told by SWG. With that fact alone SWG easily contradicts the movies AND EU, regarding Jedi anyways. That needs to be fixed to be made more in line with what previously stated sources have already established, or else SWG will have created a time paradox in the Star Wars unviverse(which is bad).

Message Edited by Shamonue on 09-11-2005 04:30 PM



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wazooka
Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:46 pm
#100

QFE, however SWG is already pretty jedi-dominated lol



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