Bounty Hunter Archive

Removing Names: I can see HUGE problems with this regarding Kashyyk. As it stands now, we can atleast scout the Webweaver, and pick out the Jedi who are not running to the LoS bridge. Since Kashyyk has become the Jedi Factory, this is going to be the biggest issue regarding name removal.

Removing Payouts: Not very realistic to the BH Profession.

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Tamianx wrote:

My take this is a fantastic move on the following conditions:

1- Faction is displayed

2- Name is given -AFTER- mission is accepted

I think to further prevent 'griefing' they should implement the following:

3- Only show those missions where the Jedi is on-line

4- 3 Day cool-down on taking missions if more then X missions are discarded while the Jedi is online. This would prevent the BH from accepting and discarding missions over and over to find the person the want to focus on.

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I love the new changes, but I see how a BH would be frustrated after tracking down 4 of his good friends in a row.

And I liked this guys ideas for additional changes EXCEPT:

2- Name is given -AFTER- mission is accepted (this just passes the buck, it doesn't resolve the issues)


If you could see these items at the terminal I think the BH would be happy:

online status

faction

guild name (this would help the BH that have friends on both sides)

kotea/wave

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Warryyr wrote:

You didn't push any buttons, sorry Charlie. Try to work up someone else. I'm just trying to keep things FOCUSED in this thread, since Aura said specifically the Devs would be reading it.

Thank you for once again posting your feedback, now I fail to see (once again) why you feel inclined to post in here if you have nothing new to contribute. Just to claim a "one up" on me, that you pushed my "buttons?" Grow up, already.

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Message Edited by SomeUser on 07-05-2005 04:04 PM

So currently, since there doesnt seem to be any fix for Kashyyyk, I'm against name removal.

Edit : I forgot something very important : if names are actually being removed, there need to be a way for us to know online/offline status of the jedi. Not all of us want to have to spend hours before finding a mark who's on.

About removing mission payout : this makes no sense, both from a gameplay and from a roleplay point of view.

Gameplay : who in this game will do a mission or craft something if he doesnt know how much(money for crafters, or experience for grinders,sinceexperience is more important to them than money)he will get from it ? Would a crafter spend the same time making a product he will sell 20k if he had in mind he could sell it 100k ? If mission payout are not displayed anymore, there needs to be a same price for all missions. Moreover, mission payout is the only clue we have to control (partially) the difficulty of our content.

Roleplay : who in the world would accept a job without knowing how much he will get paid for it ?!

Message Edited by Neekocha on 07-05-2005 11:08 PM

Really bad idea. First of all if this is all about griefing, then I would like to see an official detailed explanation of what griefing is (black and white). Second, code the system based on the previous mentioned definition so you can't grief WITHOUT taking the names off the terminal.

As has been mentioned here, this create many more problems than it fixes. Jedi really has gone from a dangerous journey to nothing more than a nusiance time sink.

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Ternque01 wrote:

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Issik wrote:
I'm Done with BH the day this goes live.



I've hunted hundreds of Jedi, only to see it make zero dents in their leveling. The BH system was supposed to be to slow down a jedi's progress, but not anymore. I've been a BH for over a year, and now I'm done.

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Oh come on Khyras. I have screenshots of you letting LFD guild Jedi kill and rez you over and over again so they can gain FRS points. There were twenty or so MBH's lined up inside of a guildhall in the town of Meggido.

I'm not trying to make you a mortal enemy of me, but come on!

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I was never MBH pre-cu.
And besides, those jedi were completed template, so I wouldn't have been hindering their leveling.
Also, they're imperial. I don't hinder imps unless they mess with the guild.
And it was -LFD-, not LFD jedi.

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Epak wrote:

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Tamianx wrote:

My take this is a fantastic move on the following conditions:

1- Faction is displayed

2- Name is given -AFTER- mission is accepted

I think to further prevent 'griefing' they should implement the following:

3- Only show those missions where the Jedi is on-line

4- 3 Day cool-down on taking missions if more then X missions are discarded while the Jedi is online. This would prevent the BH from accepting and discarding missions over and over to find the person the want to focus on.

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I love the new changes, but I see how a BH would be frustrated after tracking down 4 of his good friends in a row.

And I liked this guys ideas for additional changes EXCEPT:

2- Name is given -AFTER- mission is accepted (this just passes the buck, it doesn't resolve the issues)


If you could see these items at the terminal I think the BH would be happy:

online status

faction

guild name (this would help the BH that have friends on both sides)

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I totally agree with you that on/offline status and faction have to be part of the change. I would argue that BH should only be able to take the oppiste faction, with those that wish to take both to be required to be neutral. That might save some of the banter of 'wth he was same faction as I' that has been occuring.

This is a terrible idea.

Bounty hunters can no longer hunt who they want. If I see a jedi exhibitionist showing off in coronet I want to be able to look for that mission and go for it.

If A jedi is spotted out hunting and I hear about it I want to be able to stand a chance at finding that specific mission.

You could in essence be hunting your own Alt. Or a friend/guildmate or faction comrade. Thats ridiculous.

It makes no sense for Bounty hunters to go running all willy nilly around the galaxy not knowing who they are after.

One key thing to remember is that if a bounty hunter targets a specific jedi for death on more than one occasion there is usually a reason.. Such as the last time the BH came after the jedi they recieved hate tells. In fact there are so many jedi to choose from that unless one gives me a good reason to come back a second time I almost never hunt the same jedi twice.

This patch will have a negative impact on the jedi players that earn respect of hunters. I know plenty that have become my friends after a hunt.

Jedi that work hard to be respected in the community will suffer from random BH attacks that they normally would not recieve.

Multiple BH's will not be able to team up to take down the high level Jedi if there is no way to identify them on the terminals.

This is all bad. Utterly retarded.

If griefing is the issue then remove XP loss from BH missions. It doesnt do anything to slow them down anyways. Id rather be able to play like BH then a mindless waypoint chasing drone.

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Tamianx wrote:

My take this is a fantastic move on the following conditions:

1- Faction is displayed

2- Name is given -AFTER- mission is accepted

I think to further prevent 'griefing' they should implement the following:

3- Only show those missions where the Jedi is on-line

4- 3 Day cool-down on taking missions if more then X missions are discarded while the Jedi is online. This would prevent the BH from accepting and discarding missions over and over to find the person the want to focus on.

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That would be the only way I can see this working. With no faction, I'm likely to be banned from every Imperial shop on my server as an Imperial myself. If I take the time to hunt a mark I know nothing about, I'm going to attack regardless of their faction, level, what they're doing at the time, etc...

Not knowing the level of the jedi is shameful to me. I refuse to hunt low level paddy's now, but would definitely do it if I didn't know their level before I drove up on them.

Can you imagine getting a mission for a nameless jedi, going to the spynet, wasting a probe droid, only to find out they're not online? I'd probably stop playing at all if that happened.

Last part is a good idea too. Personally, I never hunt the same jedi twice in one day... more like one week as there are so many to choose from now.

Great idea - prevents bh'rs from griefing selective jedi. Adds a bit of mystery to the game as well - you won't know who you are hunting.

I can see it now...

A Bounty Hunter approaches his spynet informant...

Bounty Hunter: I need the Bio Signature for this Jedi.

Spynet Informant: Who?

Bounty Hunter:No not Who, he'son Kashyyyk, I just came back from there and couldn't find him. I need the Bio-Sig for ths one now.

Spynet Informant: Who is it?

Bounty Hunter: Doh, I already told you that Who is on Kashyyyk.

Spynet Informant: Dammit! You need the Bio-Signature for which then?

Bounty Hunter: No, no, no. Which is in Space, so I can't get him there or Who which ison Kashyyyk...

Spynet Informant:Who whichis on Kashyyyk? What?

Bounty Hunter: Noooooooooooo! What is my wife... I can't go for her! Just give me this damn Bio-Sig and I'll let ya live!

Spynet Informat: For who???!!

(Blaster fire is heard and the smell of burnt Spynet Informant floats over the beach chairs of Kadaara)

Message Edited by Knightcrest on 07-05-2005 04:35 PM

I can see it now too:

BH gets random mission

BH goes to spynet guy

BH launches a droid

BH waits

BH waits

BH get message "Target is not online"

BH gets random mission

BH goes to spynet guy

BH launches a droid

BH waits

BH waits

BH get message "Target is not online"