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Thread: Another Boring BH Jedi control idea

DTQ
Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:00 am
#92






alyris wrote:

They put this in the game, and you might as well look for another game, because this one wouldn't be around much after that. BH's already have everything to gain, and nothing to loose. I've spent 30 mil or so on my sabers, and they aren't even that good. They put this in the game, I'd be gone in a heartbeat. But, I have nothing to worry about, SOE isn't that stupid.



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What have you spent that 30 mil on? crystals and pearls, according to this idea dropping again so not 30 mil to replace any more.





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Fugitron
Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:02 am
#93

BH kills us they take the saber, BH dies they lose all skills (since they can regrind up in week) and all their equipment. I am being sarcastic of course.


A replica saber MAYBE, but not the actual unit. You think you want NO RISK involved in hunting jedi. Why don't we give you a giant laser cannon to instantly kill any jedi with no work? That be fun too? Why don't you start suggesting things that:


A.) Don't stop peoples ability to PLAY the GAME.


B.) Have no risk vs reward. (Please tell me what BHs lose now? and now what BHs would lose if this happened. Now tell me the difference in the loss incurred by a jedi. Get my point yet?)


C.) Why should players be punished for wanting to play their template they spent ALOT of time grinding (I am a Pre-CU jedi). You think its "fun" and "immersive" to hide all the time? No. I want to play a game, I want to PvP and I want to have fun and its people like YOU who seem to think the people who play jedi are the one's responsibile for all the trouble YOU have in the game.


My suggestion..... start suggesting ENHANCEMENTS to the game, not things that will extensively gimp players or force people to act in a certain way (and yes the prospect of losing a weapon that is ADK'd and has 4 pre-cu premium pearls (total saber value roughly 80mil) being lost upon death would severly gimp jedi).


I can deal with a replica saber but what you are suggesting is out of line and out of sight in reality. My thought: Go play the game and have fun and stop whining about other people playing it too.










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DTQ
Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:02 am
#94






delanstarrunner wrote:



Sure, level the playing feild by if a BH loses to a Jedi, then the BHtoon is deleted!



This post /voted for the stupidest post ever. Hang in there you will win.








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DTQ
Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:03 am
#95






Noskaj wrote:
Cool! So if a bh kills us, we're unarmed for a week to a month!

This is not a practical idea.




No because you will have your backup sabre, because pearls are dropping again. You arent unarmed, you lose whatever sabre YOU DECIDED to wave around in public, bearing in mind the jedi now have visibility free grinding zones



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DTQ
Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:10 am
#96






Fugitron wrote:

BH kills us they take the saber, BH dies they lose all skills (since they can regrind up in week) and all their equipment. I am being sarcastic of course.


A replica saber MAYBE, but not the actual unit. You think you want NO RISK involved in hunting jedi. Why don't we give you a giant laser cannon to instantly kill any jedi with no work? That be fun too? Why don't you start suggesting things that:


A.) Don't stop peoples ability to PLAY the GAME.


How EXACTLY does this stop peoples ability to play ANY more than the current xp loss? They can safely gather thier newly dropping flawless pearls before they start getting their glow sticks out in public.


B.) Have no risk vs reward. (Please tell me what BHs lose now? and now what BHs would lose if this happened. Now tell me the difference in the loss incurred by a jedi. Get my point yet?)


No reward? A trophy? PVP rating?Risk? aNOW REPLACEABLE LIGHT SABRE. seems to me fairly balanced compared to what they currently have of XP loss, with NO REWARD, they have even more to do without gaining visibility than at present, andSTILL have the same options of running, and being more powerful as EVERY jedi can now have a pre cu style sabre.


C.) Why should players be punished for wanting to play their template they spent ALOT of time grinding (I am a Pre-CU jedi). You think its "fun" and "immersive" to hide all the time? No. I want to play a game, I want to PvP and I want to have fun and its people like YOU who seem to think the people who play jedi are the one's responsibile for all the trouble YOU have in the game.


Thats what the alt and Jedi paradise is for the option of waving your sabre at theed is still open, just the risk is slightly higher than the zero risk currentylf for full templates. I HAVE NO TROUBLE, Im suggesting a bit of fun to add to the game FOR BOTH sides, you seem a little blinkered and unbalanced may I suggest PVP on jedi acadamy across the net?


My suggestion..... start suggesting ENHANCEMENTS to the game, not things that will extensively gimp players or force people to act in a certain way (and yes the prospect of losing a weapon that is ADK'd and has 4 pre-cu premium pearls (total saber value roughly 80mil) being lost upon death would severly gimp jedi).


This isnt gimping the negatives are balanced by the positives, but you are focusing on one element in isolation.


I can deal with a replica saber but what you are suggesting is out of line and out of sight in reality. My thought: Go play the game and have fun and stop whining about other people playing it too.











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Katalisha
Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:12 am
#97

Sure, as long as I can loot your 20 mil rifle and 30 mil armor when I wtfmcpwn your noob a55.



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Sinis_Zero
Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:17 am
#98

Okay i wasn't gonna reply. But... Just delete your character man. Your a waste of space in the galaxy. My saber costs about 80mil (all prems. and the market on my server is about 15-20mil for aprem. Plus its adk'd). So if i were to die, i lose 80 mil. And if i killa bh they lose what? 1mil? 2mil tops? Id say yes to this idea. If, Ls were one hit kills on everyone; like it would be if this were a real game (/saberheadhit= instant db) and when i one hit kill bh's i get all their loot, i can use all their loot including their weapons. Put corpse runs back in the game. Also; put perma death onto chars who are non jedi and jedi alike. One death and you can't play the game anymore.



Does that sound fun? It does for me, ill never die hahah. But for you? for some reason i think youll be out of the game after your first mission. You'll need a new keyboard after your first mission, new moniter because i think your gonna have a hissy fit when someone kills you and you lose everything. In closing delete yourcharacter and cancel your account.






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DTQ
Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:34 am
#99






Katalisha wrote:
Sure, as long as I can loot your 20 mil rifle and 30 mil armor when I wtfmcpwn your noob a55.





YEAHU ROOL


ooh thanks free bumps how far is this thread gonna go, all this love for one idea that will never be implemented, and yet the threads on permadeath and sabre TEF get no love.


Never seen so many Jedi in one thread. OUTSIDE OF THE JEDI FORUMS




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sscottsci
Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:34 am
#100

I like your idea, but for the Jedi, so they are not upset, why not let them keep the lightsaber? You can still get a replica as a keepsake, and then a bounty payment from the Empire. I think the General Order #66 should still apply, especially with all the Jedi we see running around, freely using their lightsabers, and other force powers. Any BH should be able to attack them when they show off.


Even the jedi in Episode 1 kept quiet on Tatooine when they were there, and they were not even being hunted yet. Obi-wan did not show look his lightsaber right away either when he saved him from the Sand People. It was only once they were inside and he knew the boy was Luke that he let on he was a Jedi Knight.


I think the free hunting should be available.






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Fugitron
Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:36 am
#101






DTQ wrote:





Fugitron wrote:

BH kills us they take the saber, BH dies they lose all skills (since they can regrind up in week) and all their equipment. I am being sarcastic of course.


A replica saber MAYBE, but not the actual unit. You think you want NO RISK involved in hunting jedi. Why don't we give you a giant laser cannon to instantly kill any jedi with no work? That be fun too? Why don't you start suggesting things that:


A.) Don't stop peoples ability to PLAY the GAME.


How EXACTLY does this stop peoples ability to play ANY more than the current xp loss? They can safely gather thier newly dropping flawless pearls before they start getting their glow sticks out in public.


Ok first off I am basing this off the current system, because as of RIGHT NOW no one knows whether premiums will be dropping soon or at all. Tiggs was not clear on her announcement on timeline or process. As far as your plan is concerned.... how would we loot them? With a base saber with no pearls? How do you expect us to KILL the creatures with our sabers doing 200 max damage!? I like to quest, PvP, PvE and just hang out.... with out my saber I cannot do ANY of those things besides hang out.... and if I only did that I might as well go be a musician. He'd be just as effective.


B.) Have no risk vs reward. (Please tell me what BHs lose now? and now what BHs would lose if this happened. Now tell me the difference in the loss incurred by a jedi. Get my point yet?)


No reward? A trophy? PVP rating?Risk? aNOW REPLACEABLE LIGHT SABRE. seems to me fairly balanced compared to what they currently have of XP loss, with NO REWARD, they have even more to do without gaining visibility than at present, andSTILL have the same options of running, and being more powerful as EVERY jedi can now have a pre cu style sabre.


Balanced compared to what? Please PvP rating costs nothing all it is a standing. Wooo a trophy for -500k jedi xp and a loss of an 80mil saber.... yea sign me up for one of those... NOT! As mentioned before if we don't have the ability to loot them how can we get them? You do know many things in this game require us to fight NPCs which give Vis. You are suggesting for everyone to only fight creatures to only be grouped when using healing macros defensive buffs (which btw is the SAME as center of being) ... come on man you're being RIDICULOUS.


C.) Why should players be punished for wanting to play their template they spent ALOT of time grinding (I am a Pre-CU jedi). You think its "fun" and "immersive" to hide all the time? No. I want to play a game, I want to PvP and I want to have fun and its people like YOU who seem to think the people who play jedi are the one's responsibile for all the trouble YOU have in the game.


Thats what the alt and Jedi paradise is for the option of waving your sabre at theed is still open, just the risk is slightly higher than the zero risk currentylf for full templates. I HAVE NO TROUBLE, Im suggesting a bit of fun to add to the game FOR BOTH sides, you seem a little blinkered and unbalanced may I suggest PVP on jedi acadamy across the net?


My alt is a crafter, so are alot of jedi alts. In fact many of them make YOUR armor and YOUR weapons so you can hunt us. If you really want me and all the other jedi to stop doing that - we can. Would you really want that to happen though? As far as your jedi paradise...... thats called an enclave and it does nothing. I didn't grind jedi to be quaranteened to a sector of the universe IN A GAME. If I were a jedi in the movies thats a different story but this is not the movies its our OWN ADVENTURE. If I


My suggestion..... start suggesting ENHANCEMENTS to the game, not things that will extensively gimp players or force people to act in a certain way (and yes the prospect of losing a weapon that is ADK'd and has 4 pre-cu premium pearls (total saber value roughly 80mil) being lost upon death would severly gimp jedi).


This isnt gimping the negatives are balanced by the positives, but you are focusing on one element in isolation.


WHAT POSITIVES!? You get a friggin trophy! While we lose 80mil+ and have to spend MORE time and MORE money to get it back... IF WE CAN. Not to mention XP loss. Balanced? heh yea right, you lose nothing if you lose. Doesn't seem balanced at all to me.


I can deal with a replica saber but what you are suggesting is out of line and out of sight in reality. My thought: Go play the game and have fun and stop whining about other people playing it too.












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Narut0
Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:36 am
#102



DTQ wrote:
OK Im gonna get flamed for this one, but heres an idea I've came up with for a new Jedi discouragement \ BH incentive.
First of all get the pearls dropping again, maybe from something on mustafa so dangerous that 8 jedi are required to kill it, and then its not easy.
Second give them different robes with different effects.
Third give them somewhere to hunt out of the way of the rest of the game population where they dont get visibility.
Fourth SABRE LOOT, anyone killing a jedi in PVP, BH or otherwise gets the to loot the jedis sabre - it will of course be "broken" and pearls are unretrievable, so no one can profit, but you get a nice trophy for the effort. MY theory goes that less jedi will be out getting visibility if their glow sticks gonna get conviscated for their actions.
Fifth if the above alone doesnt end duelling at starports, and reduce jedi visibility, bring in starport sabre TEF any Jedi iwith a ignited LS within 300m of a starport is instantly attackable by any bh in the neighbourhood.
I for one would love a collection of Jedi light sabres for display.
I think there would be a lot less full template uber sabres getting visibility.





hows about if a jedi beats a BH we get to take your clothes and you clone starkers stripped of all armor & weapons you you like that you n00b.

that must be the most FU*ked up idea ever concived on these dumbA$$ forums . you BH are such idiots at times.



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acmtalk
Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:36 am
#103

what if we kill the BH? can we loot his BH armor or mandalorian?



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DTQ
Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:36 am
#104

Yeah I will go delete my toon , thanks for the bump ,


If you read the posts you beloved premium and flawless pearls would drop again GIVING ALL JEDI the nice sabres instead of a select few.


Yes your sabre would decrease in value, that happens, I remember the times when many objects which no go for a few k once went for millions before loot tables were changed. and when collectors items now were once rare drops.



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