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Thread: New pathetic Jedi tactic
You are an idiot as well.
dentorious wrote:
if a jedi runs I count it as a win.
These three sentences effectively ruin any credibility your succeeding arguments need to rely on. Mysteriously,you put this passage at the beginning of your post. This results in peoplerealizing that they can skip your post without reading itright off the bat... very bad strategy. If you had put this at the end of your post instead, your other ideas would have at least been read before they realized you were biased to the point of having nothing to write worth reading. Then you could have ended it with a sentence like "Ha ha ha! Made you waste your time reading my post!"
LordMarr wrote:
If i offered the jedi a fair fight, would the jedi fight fair? They are already much more powerful than you just by game design even without using bugs.If in this "fair fight"if you were winning, half of them will use every illegal means necessary to thrawt you,they will usebugs and 3rd party hacks.
AgentDib wrote:
Nathanielstarr wrote:
I don't think it's right that just because of a flaw in game mechanics they can regen force faster than they use it even with heals and aura, while regening mind because other than that theyare doing nothing at all.
Is doing nothing the best tactic for a Jedi?
You are an idiot. Not because you are ignorant, but because rather than correcting your ignorance you choose to flaunt it in front of the world and complain about your ineptitude.
Oh hey I've killed you before.
He chose his template to be this way. If you don't like it - tough. Its his right to do whatever he can to win and not die. If you can't kill him then move on. This is a LEGITIMATE tactic and honestly not half as pathetic as many of the BH tactics out there. BHs justify being that way as part of being a BH, well doing anything to stay alive is natural .... don't call him pathetic cause you cannot walk over A JEDI. Sorry, get over it. You obviously can kill jedi, so just go kill the ones you can.
Nathanielstarr wrote:
Jedi that start losing are now doing this to me all the time. It's the MLS Defender types (known because of saber throw knockdown and aura). So what they do is they don't attack, they just regen force and mind while standing there and sometimes kneeling. So with aura up you don't do enough damage to completely take them out. They keep healing, their force regens more than they use and their mind doesn't stay down long enough to finish it.
I'm a good Jedi hunter. Jedi have a hard time killing me. I've taken out 95 of them all by myself. I run them out of force and mind because Im good with my roots and knockdowns and intimidate. I actually fight. I move, change up my attacks and put thought into it. So why reward those for the most mindless tactic?
I don't think it's right that just because of a flaw in game mechanics they can regen force faster than they use it even with heals and aura, while regening mind because other than that theyare doing nothing at all.
Is doing nothing the best tactic for a Jedi?
mickolakis wrote:
This isn't a new tactic, it's been around for quite a long time.
Ithink what the OP is complaining about is that with a macro running a Jedi is essentially invulnerable, or at least invulnerable to certain BH templates.
There have been several variations of this post on the Jedi forums along the lines of" I was chatting with guildies, BH turns up, I don't feel like fighting, turn my macro on, BH hits me for all he's worth for 1/2 hour, can't kill me because of macro, BH gets bored and goes away".
There are a large number of intelligent people with a lot of time on their hands who will eventually figure out a way to abuse the system to give themselves an advantage. As we saw with cloak this can unfortunately ledto nerfs. People have been messing around with Jedi macros and have come up with tactic whereby if you don't fight back or use force run you can channel your force in such a way that it never runs out and you cannot be killed.
Even a MCM or MDoc with healing eff clothing and all the right foods cannot heal massive damagecontinuously without running out of mind very quickly.
This isn't necessarily an exploit, just using the mechanics of the game in an unintended way. As usual abuse of these mechanics eventually results in a nerf. The people using this macro will get aura, infusion, valour (or whichever combination is used in this macro) nerfed to the detrement of the Jedi community as a whole.
The OP, judging from his post count, joining date and number of kills is not a n00b,.The chances are he has good armour, a good kinetic weapon, good tactics and knows how to use his template. This is probably the first time he has come up against this particular tactic.
Probably a better title would have been "How do you over come this particular tactic with my template?"
Message Edited by mickolakis on 09-28-2005 09:01 AM
Out of this entire thread, the abovepostis about the only one that doesn'tread like it was posted by a 12yo.
CityHall wrote:
Geodan wrote:
CityHall wrote:
You don't like bounty hunters... we get it.
Your assertion about Bounty Hunter XP loss is blown way out of proportions.
I never said don't defend yourself, but if you are so capable of winning than do it and be done, dont grief just because you have a chip on your shoulder.
There is always staying off the terminals... but then you don't get to jedi mosh pit in theed and ME.
Being able to win and choosing not to fight are two different things.
As for vis, sure a Jedi can stay off the terminals by limiting their entire game experience to just PvE against non-NPCs, but a Jedi shouldn't be penalized if they choose to participate in game content like the Avatar platform, Corevette missions, etc. and then choose not to fight PvP. A Jedi just standing there, not running and using a different tactic for survival, doesn't mean they are "griefing" a BH ... they are just choosing not to fight.
Hey, as long as the mentality isn't "lets screw with the bounty hunter" I'm happy.
Edit: the mentality "lets go ruin a jedi's day is just as bad in my mind... if I were to realy upset somone this much and knew it I would honestly drop the mission.
Message Edited by CityHall on 09-29-2005 10:19 AM
Nathanielstarr wrote:
Jedi that start losing are now doing this to me all the time. It's the MLS Defender types (known because of saber throw knockdown and aura). So what they do is they don't attack, they just regen force and mind while standing there and sometimes kneeling. So with aura up you don't do enough damage to completely take them out. They keep healing, their force regens more than they use and their mind doesn't stay down long enough to finish it.
I'm a good Jedi hunter. Jedi have a hard time killing me. I've taken out 95 of them all by myself. I run them out of force and mind because Im good with my roots and knockdowns and intimidate. I actually fight. I move, change up my attacks and put thought into it. So why reward those for the most mindless tactic?
I don't think it's right that just because of a flaw in game mechanics they can regen force faster than they use it even with heals and aura, while regening mind because other than that theyare doing nothing at all.
Is doing nothing the best tactic for a Jedi?
So you can use duelist stance, armor, roots, knockdowns, and intimidate.. yet jedi can't use aura, valor, and heal? This definitly sounds to me like you want the jedi to just fall at your feet everytime you present yourself with their mission. You asked if doing nothing is the best tactic. In this instance it obviously was since it compelled you to come here and whine about it.
Lear
rscheibler wrote:
It blows my mind that this thread is still cooking along, lol
QFE
Nathanielstarr wrote:
Jedi that start losing are now doing this to me all the time. It's the MLS Defender types (known because of saber throw knockdown and aura). So what they do is they don't attack, they just regen force and mind while standing there and sometimes kneeling. So with aura up you don't do enough damage to completely take them out. They keep healing, their force regens more than they use and their mind doesn't stay down long enough to finish it.
I'm a good Jedi hunter. Jedi have a hard time killing me. I've taken out 95 of them all by myself. I run them out of force and mind because Im good with my roots and knockdowns and intimidate. I actually fight. I move, change up my attacks and put thought into it. So why reward those for the most mindless tactic?
I don't think it's right that just because of a flaw in game mechanics they can regen force faster than they use it even with heals and aura, while regening mind because other than that theyare doing nothing at all.
Is doing nothing the best tactic for a Jedi?
the most annoying thing is when they run away or cloak...meh, cloak is getting nerfed anyways.