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Thread: Let them hunt us

Mythrindir
Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:00 am
#79






Necriscoth wrote:





Mythrindir wrote:
i think this would be a cool idea...other flamers aside, with how well bh currently do against jedi it makes sense for them to be able to try to exterminate us. In the old jedi order would the council have stood for an assassin to be taking out their members? No. They'd send someone to apprehend the hunter. Neither profession would need a nerf because of this.





Yes...in the actual SW world the council would have done this. However, in the SWG game mechanic it wouldn't work. Reason being, the mission would have a payout or some kind of an reward for the completion of the mission, hence it is nothing more than a BH mission. And you can't "capture" at the moment (and probably never will...not with players especially), so you can only kill to complete the mission. That right there solidifies my opinon that if this would come to be, then it will reduce Jedi to being nothing more than glorified BHs with lightsabers.





jedi had no possessions. that probably includes money. maybe (gasp) missions could be ONE of the forms of new FRS. like...you get x amount from normal kills but tracking down and killing a bh that has become a problem for the order grants you 2(number of jedi killed since vis reset)x FRS points.



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Zanholo
Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:49 am
#80

BH that kill countless jedi should be hunted by someone.



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Necriscoth
Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:01 pm
#81






Mythrindir wrote:





Necriscoth wrote:





Mythrindir wrote:
i think this would be a cool idea...other flamers aside, with how well bh currently do against jedi it makes sense for them to be able to try to exterminate us. In the old jedi order would the council have stood for an assassin to be taking out their members? No. They'd send someone to apprehend the hunter. Neither profession would need a nerf because of this.





Yes...in the actual SW world the council would have done this. However, in the SWG game mechanic it wouldn't work. Reason being, the mission would have a payout or some kind of an reward for the completion of the mission, hence it is nothing more than a BH mission. And you can't "capture" at the moment (and probably never will...not with players especially), so you can only kill to complete the mission. That right there solidifies my opinon that if this would come to be, then it will reduce Jedi to being nothing more than glorified BHs with lightsabers.





jedi had no possessions. that probably includes money. maybe (gasp) missions could be ONE of the forms of new FRS. like...you get x amount from normal kills but tracking down and killing a bh that has become a problem for the order grants you 2(number of jedi killed since vis reset)x FRS points.






Your still being rewarded for it. So it still comes back to being a bounty mission. When the FRS comes back, Jedi will probably recieve FRS points for killing the MBH hunting them.



And Jedi did have money back in the days. Even though it was more of "business expenses" given to and controlled by the council


victum
Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:08 pm
#82






Thassk wrote:




what universe are you in? jedi are more powerful toons and get hunted and they call for nerf left and right, you just called for a nerf in your previous post ...and jedi can get the BEST loot cuz its easiest for them to do the hardest dungeons with ( like dwb)




I would just like to say one thing.... WRONG! What universe areYOU in? MBH is by far THE MOST OVER POWERED PROFESSION IN THE GAME. An MBH has the ability to kill level 82 elite mobs at a whim, with a huge chance of getting "uber loot" from the NPC. There really isn't any challenge involved... I have a BH and all I have to do to get the loot is run circles around my NPC while eating some damage mitigation foods and ruby bliel. I havethe standard 1100-1200 damage stims and a prettygood HLR. Jedi (mainly Post-CU Jedi) are so under powered and under privileged it's not even funny.


Sure I'm aPost-CU Jedi but I've been a BH fora little over a year now soI'd like to think my opinions are pretty bias-free.


The truth of the matter isMBH has all the content, all thegood loot, and all the power. An MBH/MCM isable to easily defeat any grinding Jedi, and a good PvP'er can kill anyPost-CU Jedi. Jedi get nothing but nerfs and BHs got a huge present from the Devs with the new NPC missions.


It would be useless to try to prove me wrong but flames are welcome



**Edit: Just add in - I agree with the OP that there should be some more content for Jedi... but I also agree with other posters on the fact that this idea would make Jedi nothing more than BHs soooooo my idea would be to:

#1 Make premium pearls drop again

#2 Fix the speed bug

#3 Give Jedi NPC missions that drop loot like MBH missions, but don't generate any vis.

Message Edited by victum on 10-05-2005 09:15 PM



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victum
Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:15 pm
#83






therealrosh wrote:

i would be nice if all these little respec bh's would go back to their dancer/id/crafter prof's that they were before the cu......but dont tell them that, they have alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll been bh since launch + 3, and have alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll ground inves pre-mounts....rofl.


its funny as he11 to hear these crybabies whine about ebay jedi, sure theres a few kicking around. and sure there were a few afk grinders on the ryatt trails, total % of the jedi pop that did this, likely less than 10%. how many of these nancy-boys respec'ed to bh? 90? 95? more?? how many went mbh/mcm as soon as it was clear that was the FOTM? 99%? more? How many are nothing but griefers who get wood when they can cost xp to someone grinding with no viable way to defend themselves? 99%? more? so how many of their oppinions matter? 1%? less?


As far as Jedi hunting BH's, i think that is a poor idea, they are the only prof that cries more than jedi, and i dont want all that gehy looking bh armor rusting out from the inside. might spoil their attitude. i say rather let them hunt smugglers, put smugglers on the terms and you will quickly see how overpowered MBH can get. then when everyone is mbh/mcm, OR msmug/mcm maybe they will redirect someof that hate that has built up against us back at the devs for creating the single most retarded griefing system known to the MMORPG world.








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shakakon
Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:32 pm
#84

*ignites saber readying for the bh massacre to begin* let the heads of my enemies roll muahahah


im all for hutning you dudes, i like payback, i want payback, i NEED payback!!





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Elisar
Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:39 pm
#85






NoviceRangerFlurry wrote:





HeadRoll wrote:






blue-phoenix wrote:


but there is also lost of player that even if they are jedi they have no interest in pvp and are just RP,





Are you talking about thesame players who either bought their Jebay account, grinded at the Ryatt trails AFK for months on end while they slept, whogathered in spin groups, or burned upendless cratesof grenades on a lair sure didn't seem to be very much into ROLEPLAYING THEN. WHY ARE THEY SO CONCERNED ABOUT ROLEPLAYING NOW?


HINT: a true roleplayer don't need a jedi toon to do so. Quit using that same lame a$$ excuse






Message Edited by HeadRoll on 10-05-2005 05:39 AM





OH I never brought My Toon on EBAY and never been in a spin grop till I went to help some newbies grind and wookies world whats that?


But it would be nice to be able to play the game for a few hours and get stuff done and not have to put up with the attacks every x mins or so! And yes a nice quest that got you no vis would be nice, but can't have that as you want to hunt Jedi also would have to wait 3 weeks or more for VIS to drop!


Although I don't think it does at the moment and so once you got VIS your stuck with it!






you get a BH every x minutes..?! I'm so jealous. I havent seen a BH in weeks... And i havent seen one of any skill in at least 2 months... alas... some guys have all the luck.




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Xoreshear
Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:21 am
#86



There aren't enough Jedi gank squads in PvP.


The advantage to BH is choosing the time and manner of attack. Yeah, let's give that to full temp Jedi.


Thank you for the laugh. Why do you think hardly anyone(regular profs)is Special Forces in PvP? I guess that is where this idea came from since Jedi vs Jedi is pretty much all you have in PvP. Run out of regular profs to gank?

Message Edited by Xoreshear on 10-06-2005 04:35 AM



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Phillopian
Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:25 am
#87






DeeckTator wrote:


I think a successful jedi kill should generate visabillity, Jedi could then get our missions on a Shrine.... heres Why


Jedi can be hunted coz they have more pros than other professions, earlier the only profession that would'nt quit or respec/regrind from getting hunted was Jedi... However now we have all the content, all the good loot and all the money (simplified)


They BHs that hunt jedi want PvP, why not force it on them too? most players have a BH now, coz thats were all the cool loot is... ppl complain about the game not being star warsy enogh coz 40% of the population wasn't Jedi in the movies, well there are 40% Bhs now too, but that wasn't the case in the movies.


Let the jedi hunt the massive Bh killers, wouldn't you think the Jedi council would take action if a BH kept killing the Jedi????



Give smugglers something really cool, missions, cool lootand so onand make them huntable too, only by BH's though...


from one of my BH mission reward Ca's I got enough money to buy 2 ADK's, sweet, but with no risk BH's are way to good now...

Message Edited by DeeckTator on 10-04-2005 01:06 AM








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Jargal
Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:09 am
#88


No thanks, if I liked to get hunted, I'd go jedi.


This is another of those jedi-alt BH suggetions to make us BHs to hunt jedis less.


The fact is that about 55% of all BHs has jedi characters today, its prolly even more. I think the general player mass is aboput 60% jedis today. To cut down on jedi hunting by BHs hunting BHs would make the jedi population grow even faster.


And it would really ruin the BH prof as it is today. It's totally illogical that BHs would go out and hunt BHs cause theyr good at thier work!?! Or even cause thyer bad at thier work.


I just smell some envy from jedi towards BHs (we got content, money, loot, well-balanced vs jedi)...thats why these silly suggestions are poping up now.



If jedis feel we are killing them too much as it is today - give us something else to hunt aswell instead. Like smugglers, high faction officers, assasins (yeah, give rifleman asssin missions on NPCs).




Message Edited by Jargal on 10-06-2005 04:12 AM



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KOLBROOKIE
Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:27 am
#89

Well i think this is the worst idea ever,bh hunt, no other profession can hunt thats the name of the game, jedi duel, bh hunt

if you want to be hunted go be a jedi simple as that.Also jedi alts are bias and cant give real ideas.i say nerf jedi more and take there alts away.

if jedi cant take the fact they are the hunted why should they post here their bias ideas, get real jedi.and stop your dirty tactics full stop.

Message Edited by KOLBROOKIE on 10-06-2005 12:30 PM



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NoviceRangerFlurry
Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:40 am
#90






Jargal wrote:


No thanks, if I liked to get hunted, I'd go jedi.


This is another of those jedi-alt BH suggetions to make us BHs to hunt jedis less.


The fact is that about 55% of all BHs has jedi characters today, its prolly even more. I think the general player mass is aboput 60% jedis today. To cut down on jedi hunting by BHs hunting BHs would make the jedi population grow even faster.


And it would really ruin the BH prof as it is today. It's totally illogical that BHs would go out and hunt BHs cause theyr good at thier work!?! Or even cause thyer bad at thier work.


I just smell some envy from jedi towards BHs (we got content, money, loot, well-balanced vs jedi)...thats why these silly suggestions are poping up now.



If jedis feel we are killing them too much as it is today - give us something else to hunt aswell instead. Like smugglers, high faction officers, assasins (yeah, give rifleman asssin missions on NPCs).





Message Edited by Jargal on 10-06-2005 04:12 AM





No different that Jedi assassin kill'ed my master, Bounty Hunter Assassin kill'ed my Master...


See easy to do!


As per normal you want it all your own way! give me this, give me that!






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Galacious
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:47 am
#91

Ok... gonna get flamed to hell for this one, but I am gonna agree with the poster. This should be an option, and would gladly take the risk with this(I am a MBH). I think the jedi should of course retain their risk of xp loss, since they will imo have the upper hand. Also just to throw in a twist I think that they should put pvp missions on faction terminals. Those who are not jedi or MBH need to be overt to get missions. The more pvp kills you have against a specific faction, the more "vis" you have. The more times you switch from faction to faction acts the same way. The second part is probly what is gonna get me killed, but I have seen far too many BH's doing this crap and it is close to an exploit imo. Lets be real for a second. After you switch faction a couple times just to kill a member of that faction the word would get out on you, and what recruiter would regrant you access to the perks of being in their party?

OK... I now knowingly open this to the inevitable flaming! /duckandcover



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