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ktanner3
Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:08 pm
#79
VegasDroopy wrote:
I agree, but this publish hasnt came out yet. Yes, thet are testing it on the TC. Who's to say they wont fix it before making it live. They have done this a few times. All I am saying is quit the whining. Wait until the publish comes out, test it, and then come back here and provide feedback.
ktanner3 wrote:
VegasDroopy wrote:
Look guys, I know everyone is concerned about pub 20 and us not being able to do our jobs. I know you guys are concerned about the first strike and not knowing who our jedi is.... There is one thing you guys are forgetting. BH'S DO NOT JUST RUN IN AND ATTACK WITHOUT KNOWING WHO YOUR MARK IS. Right? So whats the big deal? So you grab a mission, then you go out to where he is... find out who he is... and then leave.... go and hangout somewhere and wait for the oppurtune time to strike. It seems like the only ones are complaining are the ones that dont hunt correctly. This isnt a game where you just run in and shoot. Our profession is based on investigating our mark. I look at this new patch in 2 ways; 1) We are going to become better hunters, because this will force to get to know our mark, and 2) The combat upgrade still isnt finished. They still have more things to implement.
You guys are looking at one publish.... how do you know what is to come in the next few publishes? I also cant believe all the BH whiners we have. Come on guys! We are bounty hunters! Stop the whining! It is our job to learn to adapt to change. I have been an old school BH since December of 03... I was there when you had to master marksman and scout and the jedi you hunted had armor on. We have had alot of change, and there will continue to be more change until the devs complete the combat upgrade.
I am looking for to this publish and the future pulishes as well. The way I look at it is when the going gets tough, the tough get tougher... /flex
Message Edited by VegasDroopy on 07-10-2005 03:49 PM
Last time I checked this is the bounty hunter forums. If there is an issue that has to do with our profession this is where it is discussed.The reason publish 20 has gotten the most talk is because again it seems like one tailored towards the concerns of the jedi. What POSSIBLE reason is there for no mention of the name we are hunting nor pay except to make life easier for jedi? Gank Squads? You could easily give us name of mark after droids have been launched. Don't tell me this makes you a better hunter either. Only someone with a jedi account would say that. If we regulary met our mark in a crowded cantina this would be no big deal but our contact happens in the middle of nowhere in the jungle while the jedi is grinding. "Let me see, some unkown person has been standing there for a while , I wonder if he is after me?" This is also being forced on us with still no droids working on kashyyk,the bridge exploit still operational,,jedi being able /dual and find out if I have his mission etc....Some of us are good hunters and pvperswithout any force sensitivity so don't tell us not to complain when our profession is getting gimped.
How do I knowwhat's coming in future publishes? More things to make the path of a jedi easier and more professions being rendered useless.
There is feedback being provided, by TANKS himself and it has been very informative. There has been a few things fixed on this that I am glad for. Biggest one being the NPC's. If it goes like planned, our npc terminals will work just like every other terminal. Level dificulty will match when the mark is found. No mark that suddenly appears 30 levels higher (sucks for lower level hunter learning the profession) or mark 40 to 50 levels lower than seen.I personally like to take breaks from the garbage that goes on in the bh/jedisystem and just hunt a mark that dies and doesn't come back to haunt me in tells,pms,or this board.Hell,if it works too good I'll just hunt npc's and let jedi have their own fun and now they will be completely removed from my game since the GCW is dead now.I also notice that the house exploit is supposedly fixed, which is only fair. If a battle has been engaged, no one should be able to plop a house down and hide. Tanks also said that a mark that was down as 49k earned hime 250k so who knows if that means working as intended or still needs fixing. But Tanks has also reafirmed our fears about the no names thing, which I still think is B.S. and has only been put in place to make the jedi happy. Why is it that we can know the names of the npc's we are hunting but not the jedi ? No real bounty hunter in his right mind would take a mission without knowing the name of the individual he/she is hunting or not know how much he is getting paid for the job. I can see it now. ....
It's the old west , and a bounty hunter has taken a mission from the government to take out this criminal who has been able to fool the authorities. Bounty hunter doesn't know the outlaw's identity or how much he is getting once the job is done, but hey, he's a bounty hunter and does all this for the thrill of the hunt not the almighty dollar(yeah right).A law has been passed that tells him that it's only fairfor the criminalthat he not know the identity becausea fair fight is important and that posse's riding up and shooting the criminal is just plain wrong.So all wanted posters show an empty face withno name and says" ???? Wanted dead or alive for ????."Thru bits and pieces he findsa band of criminals in the woods.Hedoesn't knowwhich one is his mark and his hunting dog for some reason doesn't work in that enviroment so hestands therewondering which one it is. Turns out his mark was the guy in the middle named jesse james who promptly shoots him dead.
Corvett
Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:14 am
#80
PPL have to realize there is a price to everything. I know this is a hard concept for most. Bh asked for Jedi to be nerfed and they were nerfed and nerfed HARD. Saberblock, Min cost on heals, Heal delay, TEF no matter what...ect I can go on. The thing is you have to remember the price for that is your names are random picked now to prevent griefing. Jedi can EASILY be taken by 1 person now, which is what you all asked for, but in return you can't just get ppl together and go grief you nearest Noobie or full template Jedi. Bh's get all the luxeries with no risk and with that comes a price.
CaixCatab
Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:17 am
#81
For the record, the removal of group TEF was a top five Jedi issue.
Corvett wrote:
TEF no matter what...
Slayer-Titan
Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:20 am
#82
ktanner3 wrote:
VegasDroopy wrote:
Look guys, I know everyone is concerned about pub 20 and us not being able to do our jobs. I know you guys are concerned about the first strike and not knowing who our jedi is.... There is one thing you guys are forgetting. BH'S DO NOT JUST RUN IN AND ATTACK WITHOUT KNOWING WHO YOUR MARK IS. Right? So whats the big deal? So you grab a mission, then you go out to where he is... find out who he is... and then leave.... go and hangout somewhere and wait for the oppurtune time to strike. It seems like the only ones are complaining are the ones that dont hunt correctly. This isnt a game where you just run in and shoot. Our profession is based on investigating our mark. I look at this new patch in 2 ways; 1) We are going to become better hunters, because this will force to get to know our mark, and 2) The combat upgrade still isnt finished. They still have more things to implement.
You guys are looking at one publish.... how do you know what is to come in the next few publishes? I also cant believe all the BH whiners we have. Come on guys! We are bounty hunters! Stop the whining! It is our job to learn to adapt to change. I have been an old school BH since December of 03... I was there when you had to master marksman and scout and the jedi you hunted had armor on. We have had alot of change, and there will continue to be more change until the devs complete the combat upgrade.
I am looking for to this publish and the future pulishes as well. The way I look at it is when the going gets tough, the tough get tougher... /flex
Message Edited by VegasDroopy on 07-10-2005 03:49 PM
Last time I checked this is the bounty hunter forums. If there is an issue that has to do with our profession this is where it is discussed.The reason publish 20 has gotten the most talk is because again it seems like one tailored towards the concerns of the jedi. What POSSIBLE reason is there for no mention of the name we are hunting nor pay except to make life easier for jedi? Gank Squads? You could easily give us name of mark after droids have been launched. Don't tell me this makes you a better hunter either. Only someone with a jedi account would say that. If we regulary met our mark in a crowded cantina this would be no big deal but our contact happens in the middle of nowhere in the jungle while the jedi is grinding. "Let me see, some unkown person has been standing there for a while , I wonder if he is after me?" This is also being forced on us with still no droids working on kashyyk,the bridge exploit still operational,,jedi being able /dual and find out if I have his mission etc....Some of us are good hunters and pvperswithout any force sensitivity so don't tell us not to complain when our profession is getting gimped.
How do I knowwhat's coming in future publishes? More things to make the path of a jedi easier and more professions being rendered useless.
dang....thats harsh
Corvett
Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:14 am
#83
CaixCatab wrote:
For the record, the removal of group TEF was a top five Jedi issue.
Corvett wrote:
TEF no matter what...
What I meant is that a jedi gets a TEF when you engage whether he fights back or not and is booted out of any structure forceing a battle. That is quit abit of power to put on someone in itself.
CaixCatab
Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:16 am
#84
Which is implemented as a fix to counter the jedi taking advantage of the lack of a proper TEF by engaging and then returning to their house.
Corvett wrote:
What I meant is that a jedi gets a TEF when you engage whether he fights back or not and is booted out of any structure forceing a battle. That is quit abit of power to put on someone in itself.
CaixCatab
Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:21 am
#85
We always want bug fixes. We can hardly be blamed for getting more than we asked for? Especially not when it might have ended up this way since it was easier to code.
Corvett wrote:
It was implemeted because thats what the Bh's wanted though.
Borta-of-Scylla
Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:07 am
#86
VegasDroopy wrote:
Look guys, I know everyone is concerned about pub 20 and us not being able to do our jobs. I know you guys are concerned about the first strike and not knowing who our jedi is.... There is one thing you guys are forgetting. BH'S DO NOT JUST RUN IN AND ATTACK WITHOUT KNOWING WHO YOUR MARK IS. Right? So whats the big deal? So you grab a mission, then you go out to where he is... find out who he is... and then leave.... go and hangout somewhere and wait for the oppurtune time to strike. It seems like the only ones are complaining are the ones that dont hunt correctly. This isnt a game where you just run in and shoot. Our profession is based on investigating our mark. I look at this new patch in 2 ways; 1) We are going to become better hunters, because this will force to get to know our mark, and 2) The combat upgrade still isnt finished. They still have more things to implement.
You guys are looking at one publish.... how do you know what is to come in the next few publishes? I also cant believe all the BH whiners we have. Come on guys! We are bounty hunters! Stop the whining! It is our job to learn to adapt to change. I have been an old school BH since December of 03... I was there when you had to master marksman and scout and the jedi you hunted had armor on. We have had alot of change, and there will continue to be more change until the devs complete the combat upgrade.
I am looking for to this publish and the future pulishes as well. The way I look at it is when the going gets tough, the tough get tougher... /flex
Message Edited by VegasDroopy on 07-10-2005 03:49 PM
But dont you think it odd that your mark may know who you're after before you do?
NolaraTie
Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:17 am
#87
I completely agree with you vegas. Even though I have only been a BH since the combat upgrade ( I actually DID grind the whole template, not respeced ) I like the idea of hunting down my mark, learning thier every move, and calculating them. The money is great, but the fact that I can succeed by using my head, and instincts is far more rewarding than any credit payout. As far as the issue of people now having to be master BH to hunt Jedi, I agree with that as well. This means that only those dedicated to the profession will be doing it, and that actuall work will have to go into a BH template. There are alot of aspects of publish 20 that I have heard, and read about that suggest that this might be alot of fun. There will of coarse be downsides to whatever goes live, but as many times before we must strive to overcome those downsides, and play our profession to the max. It's all about fun, and GAMES here. Lets have fun with our game huh?
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