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Thread: STOP WHINING!
VegasDroopy wrote:
Tucheck wrote:Yeah...and it only took you a year and 3 months to register for the forums. Oh wait...let me guess, this is your ALT account, because as we all know, everyone loves to be known by 2 or 3 different names. Funny, of all the Jedi and BHs I've known on SF, I've never heard of you. How's the respec going for you anyway? If you have been around as long as you say you have, I wouldn't have to tell you the error of your thinking....not that will anyway. Feel free to hold onto your "hope", my eyes are wide open to the truth about a profession that has been gimped and exploited against for far too long. The Devs could have fixed the Jedi - BH TEF anytime they wanted. The Devs could have fixed the Jedi group vis anytime they wanted....but they DECIDED to use one to justify the ohter, and what's the result....playing the lottery for my Jedi missions.
VegasDroopy wrote:Look guys, I know everyone is concerned about pub 20 and us not being able to do our jobs. I know you guys are concerned about the first strike and not knowing who our jedi is.... There is one thing you guys are forgetting. BH'S DO NOT JUST RUN IN AND ATTACK WITHOUT KNOWING WHO YOUR MARK IS. Right? So whats the big deal? So you grab a mission, then you go out to where he is... find out who he is... and then leave.... go and hangout somewhere and wait for the oppurtune time to strike. It seems like the only ones are complaining are the ones that dont hunt correctly. This isnt a game where you just run in and shoot. Our profession is based on investigating our mark. I look at this new patch in 2 ways; 1) We are going to become better hunters, because this will force to get to know our mark, and 2) The combat upgrade still isnt finished. They still have more things to implement.You guys are looking at one publish.... how do you know what is to come in the next few publishes? I also cant believe all the BH whiners we have. Come on guys! We are bounty hunters! Stop the whining! It is our job to learn to adapt to change. I have been an old school BH since December of 03... I was there when you had to master marksman and scout and the jedi you hunted had armor on. We have had alot of change, and there will continue to be more change until the devs complete the combat upgrade.I am looking for to this publish and the future pulishes as well. The way I look at it is when the going gets tough, the tough get tougher... /flexMessage Edited by VegasDroopy on 07-10-2005 03:49 PM
First off, you are the biggest whiner of them all on SF, prolly cause you are the worst BH on SF as well. I sat there while you got worked by Jackelynn. Second, I dont mind pointing you to my alt, who has been a BH since December of 03. Finally, I HAVE been a BH for almost 2 years and was there when we had to run, not ride, to where our mark was supposed to be. I have seen this profession in its greatest moments and in it worst moments. Just like the other "old school" BH's, we have suffered through alot of crap that the devs have put us through.
I really dont care if you heard of me, to be honest. I left my old server, because I was one of the most well known and successful BH's. Even though I dont have to prove myself, let me point you in the right direction.... look up "Achyutathewook." That's me... I cancelled that account to start this one.
Also, look at Achyuta's Website, as well as Kirtana's.... These 2 were on the same account. Brother, before you start putting me down, you better be able to wear my jockstrap.
As far as the devs are concerned, they even stated that the CU is not complete. They have a lot more content to add for us, GCW, and other professions. So do me a favor, change your diaper and stiffen up the upper lip or quit playing this game. BH's are not supposed to be whiners. If you noticed, the best BH's on all servers havent whined... They adapted, tested, and learned to get around everything the devs have thrown at us.
Okay, you mean This encounter?. Was THAT the one you were talking about? There is only ONE reason why any Jedi would run into a house while in the middle of a fight in their OWN city...they are going to lose.
Now let's put two and two together. According to you, I'm one of the worst BHs on SF, so if your Jedi friend had to hide from the WORST BH on SF to avoid being killed....what are you inadvertently saying about your Jedi friend? I'll help you out....your saying your Jedi friend is ever worse then the WORST BH on SF. /pep GJ.
Let's follow this up even further...it's funny that you can make the statement that I'm the worst BH on SF....just THAT tells me that I'm well known enough for you to form an opinion, yet I've still never heard of you. Funny how even the worst BH on SF has never heard of the BH throwing insults at him. I think what this means is that your just pissed off because I told you I didn't believe you in your "I'm whinning to tell people to stop whinning thread". I think you have some RL problems....what are you 3, still playing "look at me". Even when you try to post an insult, it turns into 4 paragraphs of "See..look...here I am....look...I am good". Pathetic.
You DID give me a really good laugh though. I think it's hiliarous (or really sad) that you have web sites devoted to your own characters. It really surprised me....I was just like, "Whoa...people actually have their own tribute sites to...themselves". This was of course followed by 5 minutes of laughter.
As for the "best BHs" on SF...you really DON'T have a clue do you?
Kint is now a smuggler
Dfett doesn't hunt anymore
Eevag is now seen more on his Jedi (his poor T-21 got nerfed..which I think was wrong...it was an amazing rifle before the CU, it SHOULD have still been AFTER the CU)
Tra'vus/-Spiffyjr ever hear of these guys? QC? Guess what, neither one of them are still around.
Kenchi still hunts
Basically most of the "best" BHs SF ever saw do NOT hunt any more...are you saying that becuase they decided NOT to "adapt and overcome" they are not "real" BHs? I don't think that's a true statement at all. I think these BHs, and others like them, have put their time in, and recognized the changes as being idiotic. I think there is a HUGE difference between acceptance and adaptation. Just because you (and I) have decided to continue the BH profession despite ANY changes the Devs make make to the profession does NOT make us "better" BHs.
Then there are players like me, who have accepted every single nerf to our profession from day 1. I've never been the best (unlike your claim that you were so elite you had to change servers...yeah right), I never need to be the best to feed my ego. I just needed to be "good enough". However, there comes a time when a player sees the ONLY profession they have ever played being completely "set up" for failure to appease the almighty "care bear fan boys", and you have to take the best "STAND" you can against it.
So you have been a BH since the game started right...then you remember a time when BHs killed Jedi and it was okay to do so. That's what we did...we killed Jedi. We didn't have a whole community telling us it was greiving everytime we killed a Jedi. So they nerf, and we STILL killed, and they nerfed some more....we STILL killed Jedi. It's been like a dman Rocky movie...until now. You can only adapt a SUV so much in order to take on a train in a game of chicken, BEFORE it becomes obvious that even trying such a thing is more stupid then "honorable" or "real". So I don't want to "accept" the new changes quietly...I don't really have a choice, the changes WILL be made. To bad you consider it whiney to speak out about something that just isn't right. If I ever see you at a restaurant, I'll be sure to spit on your steak...it's not right, but I already know you will just sit there and take it. I guess it's better then looking whiney.
No matter...I still think your a liar. Why would you cancel an account to start another one just because you were so damn good? I can understand a new character for a new server, or even a character re-roll....but you have asked me to go chasing old accounts that are no longer active, claiming to be that person. Hey, maybe you have your reasons...not likely. Hey, it Eevag ever cancles his account, maybe you could start a new account and claim to be him, using "his" history as your own.
Wow...I already spent WAY too much time responding (even though this is funny), please feel free to respond again...you always give me great ammo.
I agree, but this publish hasnt came out yet. Yes, thet are testing it on the TC. Who's to say they wont fix it before making it live. They have done this a few times. All I am saying is quit the whining. Wait until the publish comes out, test it, and then come back here and provide feedback.
ktanner3 wrote:
VegasDroopy wrote:
Look guys, I know everyone is concerned about pub 20 and us not being able to do our jobs. I know you guys are concerned about the first strike and not knowing who our jedi is.... There is one thing you guys are forgetting. BH'S DO NOT JUST RUN IN AND ATTACK WITHOUT KNOWING WHO YOUR MARK IS. Right? So whats the big deal? So you grab a mission, then you go out to where he is... find out who he is... and then leave.... go and hangout somewhere and wait for the oppurtune time to strike. It seems like the only ones are complaining are the ones that dont hunt correctly. This isnt a game where you just run in and shoot. Our profession is based on investigating our mark. I look at this new patch in 2 ways; 1) We are going to become better hunters, because this will force to get to know our mark, and 2) The combat upgrade still isnt finished. They still have more things to implement.
You guys are looking at one publish.... how do you know what is to come in the next few publishes? I also cant believe all the BH whiners we have. Come on guys! We are bounty hunters! Stop the whining! It is our job to learn to adapt to change. I have been an old school BH since December of 03... I was there when you had to master marksman and scout and the jedi you hunted had armor on. We have had alot of change, and there will continue to be more change until the devs complete the combat upgrade.
I am looking for to this publish and the future pulishes as well. The way I look at it is when the going gets tough, the tough get tougher... /flex
Message Edited by VegasDroopy on 07-10-2005 03:49 PM
Last time I checked this is the bounty hunter forums. If there is an issue that has to do with our profession this is where it is discussed.The reason publish 20 has gotten the most talk is because again it seems like one tailored towards the concerns of the jedi. What POSSIBLE reason is there for no mention of the name we are hunting nor pay except to make life easier for jedi? Gank Squads? You could easily give us name of mark after droids have been launched. Don't tell me this makes you a better hunter either. Only someone with a jedi account would say that. If we regulary met our mark in a crowded cantina this would be no big deal but our contact happens in the middle of nowhere in the jungle while the jedi is grinding. "Let me see, some unkown person has been standing there for a while , I wonder if he is after me?" This is also being forced on us with still no droids working on kashyyk,the bridge exploit still operational,,jedi being able /dual and find out if I have his mission etc....Some of us are good hunters and pvperswithout any force sensitivity so don't tell us not to complain when our profession is getting gimped.
How do I knowwhat's coming in future publishes? More things to make the path of a jedi easier and more professions being rendered useless.
Tucheck wrote:
VegasDroopy wrote:
Tucheck wrote:
Yeah...and it only took you a year and 3 months to register for the forums. Oh wait...let me guess, this is your ALT account, because as we all know, everyone loves to be known by 2 or 3 different names. Funny, of all the Jedi and BHs I've known on SF, I've never heard of you. How's the respec going for you anyway? If you have been around as long as you say you have, I wouldn't have to tell you the error of your thinking....not that will anyway. Feel free to hold onto your "hope", my eyes are wide open to the truth about a profession that has been gimped and exploited against for far too long. The Devs could have fixed the Jedi - BH TEF anytime they wanted. The Devs could have fixed the Jedi group vis anytime they wanted....but they DECIDED to use one to justify the ohter, and what's the result....playing the lottery for my Jedi missions.
VegasDroopy wrote:
Look guys, I know everyone is concerned about pub 20 and us not being able to do our jobs. I know you guys are concerned about the first strike and not knowing who our jedi is.... There is one thing you guys are forgetting. BH'S DO NOT JUST RUN IN AND ATTACK WITHOUT KNOWING WHO YOUR MARK IS. Right? So whats the big deal? So you grab a mission, then you go out to where he is... find out who he is... and then leave.... go and hangout somewhere and wait for the oppurtune time to strike. It seems like the only ones are complaining are the ones that dont hunt correctly. This isnt a game where you just run in and shoot. Our profession is based on investigating our mark. I look at this new patch in 2 ways; 1) We are going to become better hunters, because this will force to get to know our mark, and 2) The combat upgrade still isnt finished. They still have more things to implement.
You guys are looking at one publish.... how do you know what is to come in the next few publishes? I also cant believe all the BH whiners we have. Come on guys! We are bounty hunters! Stop the whining! It is our job to learn to adapt to change. I have been an old school BH since December of 03... I was there when you had to master marksman and scout and the jedi you hunted had armor on. We have had alot of change, and there will continue to be more change until the devs complete the combat upgrade.
I am looking for to this publish and the future pulishes as well. The way I look at it is when the going gets tough, the tough get tougher... /flex
Message Edited by VegasDroopy on 07-10-2005 03:49 PM
First off, you are the biggest whiner of them all on SF, prolly cause you are the worst BH on SF as well. I sat there while you got worked by Jackelynn. Second, I dont mind pointing you to my alt, who has been a BH since December of 03. Finally, I HAVE been a BH for almost 2 years and was there when we had to run, not ride, to where our mark was supposed to be. I have seen this profession in its greatest moments and in it worst moments. Just like the other "old school" BH's, we have suffered through alot of crap that the devs have put us through.
I really dont care if you heard of me, to be honest. I left my old server, because I was one of the most well known and successful BH's. Even though I dont have to prove myself, let me point you in the right direction.... look up "Achyutathewook." That's me... I cancelled that account to start this one.
Also, look at Achyuta's Website, as well as Kirtana's.... These 2 were on the same account. Brother, before you start putting me down, you better be able to wear my jockstrap.
As far as the devs are concerned, they even stated that the CU is not complete. They have a lot more content to add for us, GCW, and other professions. So do me a favor, change your diaper and stiffen up the upper lip or quit playing this game. BH's are not supposed to be whiners. If you noticed, the best BH's on all servers havent whined... They adapted, tested, and learned to get around everything the devs have thrown at us.
Okay, you mean This encounter?. Was THAT the one you were talking about? There is only ONE reason why any Jedi would run into a house while in the middle of a fight in their OWN city...they are going to lose.
Now let's put two and two together. According to you, I'm one of the worst BHs on SF, so if your Jedi friend had to hide from the WORST BH on SF to avoid being killed....what are you inadvertently saying about your Jedi friend? I'll help you out....your saying your Jedi friend is ever worse then the WORST BH on SF. /pep GJ.
Let's follow this up even further...it's funny that you can make the statement that I'm the worst BH on SF....just THAT tells me that I'm well known enough for you to form an opinion, yet I've still never heard of you. Funny how even the worst BH on SF has never heard of the BH throwing insults at him. I think what this means is that your just pissed off because I told you I didn't believe you in your "I'm whinning to tell people to stop whinning thread". I think you have some RL problems....what are you 3, still playing "look at me". Even when you try to post an insult, it turns into 4 paragraphs of "See..look...here I am....look...I am good". Pathetic.
You DID give me a really good laugh though. I think it's hiliarous (or really sad) that you have web sites devoted to your own characters. It really surprised me....I was just like, "Whoa...people actually have their own tribute sites to...themselves". This was of course followed by 5 minutes of laughter.
As for the "best BHs" on SF...you really DON'T have a clue do you?
Kint is now a smuggler
Dfett doesn't hunt anymore
Eevag is now seen more on his Jedi (his poor T-21 got nerfed..which I think was wrong...it was an amazing rifle before the CU, it SHOULD have still been AFTER the CU)
Tra'vus/-Spiffyjr ever hear of these guys? QC? Guess what, neither one of them are still around.
Kenchi still hunts
Basically most of the "best" BHs SF ever saw do NOT hunt any more...are you saying that becuase they decided NOT to "adapt and overcome" they are not "real" BHs? I don't think that's a true statement at all. I think these BHs, and others like them, have put their time in, and recognized the changes as being idiotic. I think there is a HUGE difference between acceptance and adaptation. Just because you (and I) have decided to continue the BH profession despite ANY changes the Devs make make to the profession does NOT make us "better" BHs.
Then there are players like me, who have accepted every single nerf to our profession from day 1. I've never been the best (unlike your claim that you were so elite you had to change servers...yeah right), I never need to be the best to feed my ego. I just needed to be "good enough". However, there comes a time when a player sees the ONLY profession they have ever played being completely "set up" for failure to appease the almighty "care bear fan boys", and you have to take the best "STAND" you can against it.
So you have been a BH since the game started right...then you remember a time when BHs killed Jedi and it was okay to do so. That's what we did...we killed Jedi. We didn't have a whole community telling us it was greiving everytime we killed a Jedi. So they nerf, and we STILL killed, and they nerfed some more....we STILL killed Jedi. It's been like a dman Rocky movie...until now. You can only adapt a SUV so much in order to take on a train in a game of chicken, BEFORE it becomes obvious that even trying such a thing is more stupid then "honorable" or "real". So I don't want to "accept" the new changes quietly...I don't really have a choice, the changes WILL be made. To bad you consider it whiney to speak out about something that just isn't right. If I ever see you at a restaurant, I'll be sure to spit on your steak...it's not right, but I already know you will just sit there and take it. I guess it's better then looking whiney.
No matter...I still think your a liar. Why would you cancel an account to start another one just because you were so damn good? I can understand a new character for a new server, or even a character re-roll....but you have asked me to go chasing old accounts that are no longer active, claiming to be that person. Hey, maybe you have your reasons...not likely. Hey, it Eevag ever cancles his account, maybe you could start a new account and claim to be him, using "his" history as your own.
Wow...I already spent WAY too much time responding (even though this is funny), please feel free to respond again...you always give me great ammo.
You still havent said anything. I really dont care if you know me or not. You see, I havent been on the forums whining and letting everyone know who I am until now. Like I said before, Jackelynn owned you. Yeah, you showed a picture of her in her house... what about the other pic you have of her running out of the house, kd'ing you and then killing you? A smart BH would have left and waited. As far as my toons and their websites, let me know if you want me to make you one... seems like you are jealous. ![]()
Look, my whole point is this... Stop whining... wait until th epublish comes out, test it, and then provide feedback. You are making us look bad as a profession, becuase you whine about everything. The forums are supposed to be for feedback and information, not to create drama.
Message Edited by VegasDroopy on 07-11-2005 10:28 AM
Kanten wrote:
U2Pepperman wrote:
Couldn't agree more, Vegas. I've been a BH for nearly a year now, and all of this whining is making me sick. The simple fact is, the publish will make our job more realistic. You're a bounty hunter......you are SUPPOSED to investigate your target. And furthermore, you should be the ONLY one hunting that target. 1v1.....it's the way it should be.
Jedi stillsit on line of sight exploits and hide in invulnerable houses. Is that realistic?
LOS in kash is an exploit, contact a CSR. Running into houses is being fixed in Pub 20, jedi will get a 2:30 tef as soon as you attack, if you are complaining that they are in a house when you want to hunt them I refer you to the title of this post.
VegasDroopy wrote:
1) We are going to become better hunters, because this will force to get to know our mark,
You guys are looking at one publish.... how do you know what is to come in the next few publishes? I also cant believe all the BH whiners we have. Come on guys! We are bounty hunters! Stop the whining! It is our job to learn to adapt to change. I have been an old school BH since December of 03... I was there when you had to master marksman and scout and the jedi you hunted had armor on.
If playing a proffession that's gimped is some how tough and manly, go play an entertainer.
The way I look at it is when the going gets tough, the tough get tougher... /flex
U2Pepperman wrote:
Couldn't agree more, Vegas. I've been a BH for nearly a year now, and all of this whining is making me sick. The simple fact is, the publish will make our job more realistic. You're a bounty hunter......you are SUPPOSED to investigate your target. And furthermore, you should be the ONLY one hunting that target. 1v1.....it's the way it should be.
Jedi stillsit on line of sight exploits and hide in invulnerable houses. Is that realistic?
U2Pepperman wrote:
nope, not realistic.....and that aspect, I don't agree with.
Actualy, if u want realisic, REAL bounty hunters get