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Thread: Drive on through nothing to see here.

Committed88
Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:25 pm
#79

Hello Wanderhome BH here. I would have agree that CM is a little over powered at the moment. But I can see why, you have to have someone that can wipe a mdef. So my question then is why is no other profession hooked up liek that.

I don't use any medic at all. I'm proud of this fact, becuase my temp isn't a carbon copy of anyone elses. I still win. My ratio is probably 45%. I've only been db'd by a target once. Thanks to smuggler, I can root and pick up my ride in time to get away.

My temp is set up so that I have great pistol acc (becuase I only use a pistol, and only a fwg5 at that... its an RP thing), and excellent defense. Altogether I have a +750 to my ranged defense of 312, and my melee defense of 245 I think. So that puts my ranged close to 1k in defense and melee close as well.

Even with all my defenses up and a synthsteak on, A master defenser with aura up, will evade 80% of my shots and most of the time wittle my down relatively quick. Drink a pyro before that, and it goes down to 60%. Being able to root and daze is my only friend as a none medic profession.

The only attack which will prevent the target from healing is concussion. So it has coem down to me watching the combat log as I fight and tryign to figure out their healin macros timing. Once I do, I am abel to stun, daze, root, heal, wait for the macro to try and go, and then after it has gone but done nothing becuase they are dazed, go for a kd, and 2 power attacks. I basically rinse and repeat.

I've only run one of my targets out of force. All the others ones, just were out gunned.

CMs, are basically the same thing. There debuffs hardly ever miss... even though my defense is through the roof. They can heal effectively better than a jedi, and are a dime a dozen now a days. EVERYONE is now medic. There isn't variety. This indicates an imbalance.

When everyone flocks to a profession ,genereally its becuase it is the only way to win.

If it never changes I don't really care, I have what works for me and my play style. But it took me close to a year to figure out hwo to play and win. Where as a CM needs only a week.



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AnimalMagnet
Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:37 pm
#80

Nice video....good music selection. ^^

My question is why did you keep dropping camps? Or did you just keep running through the one you used to pull your droid out?
Sundal
Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:39 pm
#81

Some of you jedi need to wake up. The MCM/MBH is specialized to hunting Jedi. If you put the same thought into your Jedi template to do nothing but hunt Bounty Hunters you would have the same success and more.


The problem comes when you want to solo elites, do vettes, run around cloak in pvp. You spread yourself thin. A jack-of-all-trades template verus a template designedfor specifically one purpose. Of course it's going to be a little one-sided. That being said, MCM is still not the dominate force you make it out to be. There are so many little things you can do to throw them off, if you took the time to figure it out. It starts with the right food for one.


Also this video does not represent Jedi in the best light. The Jedi is hardly doing any damage. Not only that but he is very indecisive on whether or not he wants to fight. Where is his root?Running or fighting he should have used it. If he didnt have root, where was his fr? And like others stated he didnt even use some of his Mdef skills.
VegitoSS
Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:17 pm
#82

I dropped a camp about 2hrs before I made that video. For some reason when I got into the area of where the camp use to be it kept telling me my camp was abandoned. Some crazy camp bug I guess.




AnimalMagnet wrote:

Nice video....good music selection. ^^

My question is why did you keep dropping camps? Or did you just keep running through the one you used to pull your droid out?







SWG_Miriam
Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:26 pm
#83

i would hardly call that a good example of fighting a master defender -- i didn't even see him use aura the entire fight, which is why you could hit him with enough DPS.



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shadowdragon2k
Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:58 pm
#84

to tell the truith heres my question to all you Jedi out there that feel that Bh/Cm is overpowered


please list the equipment you use and what foods/drinks you use while fighting a BH!


i know you may be thinking how is this relivant but it is fully relivant due to the fact that some of you are loseing due to prep' in foods/buffs and for sh!t's n Giggles might as well post how much it cost's you


i know as a BH i use Breath of heven, booster blue, canape, air cake, Block drink (forgot its name sorry), Ruby's+stims and a full set of buffs each timei believe thats it





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TonieStark
Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:25 pm
#85






Sundal wrote:

Some of you jedi need to wake up. The MCM/MBH is specialized to hunting Jedi. If you put the same thought into your Jedi template to do nothing but hunt Bounty Hunters you would have the same success and more.


The problem comes when you want to solo elites, do vettes, run around cloak in pvp. You spread yourself thin. A jack-of-all-trades template verus a template designedfor specifically one purpose. Of course it's going to be a little one-sided. That being said, MCM is still not the dominate force you make it out to be. There are so many little things you can do to throw them off, if you took the time to figure it out. It starts with the right food for one.





Sundal that is the most common sense I have seen in a post in a long time in these forums. It might short circuit some of their brains...be careful.



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Digitalalchemyzt
Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:59 am
#86

no..a KNIGHT is 1.5 times stronger if im not mistaken. and a master...well hell.

if no then show me the link..
DekkoFett
Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:21 am
#87


Actually the Droid disesembled view is a bug in itself. When someone disables my droid and I heal it, it will contiue to look disabled even if I get it back up to full health. When it fires it will quickly get back into it's repaired look and fire, then change back to the destroyed mod even if it has health.

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Zorekrn
Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:14 am
#88

bah bh/cm is all the same boring and over used when they start to lose they paralize wow who woulda thought that, i'll stick to pvp atleast then them kind of bh's might actually get to fight me other wise i just leave not worth my time to fight the same bh i fought 10 mins ago.



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Thassk
Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:39 am
#89








Committed88 wrote:
Hello Wanderhome BH here. I would have agree that CM is a little over powered at the moment. But I can see why, you have to have someone that can wipe a mdef. So my question then is why is no other profession hooked up liek that.

I don't use any medic at all. I'm proud of this fact, becuase my temp isn't a carbon copy of anyone elses. I still win. My ratio is probably 45%. I've only been db'd by a target once. Thanks to smuggler, I can root and pick up my ride in time to get away.

My temp is set up so that I have great pistol acc (becuase I only use a pistol, and only a fwg5 at that... its an RP thing), and excellent defense. Altogether I have a +750 to my ranged defense of 312, and my melee defense of 245 I think. So that puts my ranged close to 1k in defense and melee close as well.

Even with all my defenses up and a synthsteak on, A master defenser with aura up, will evade 80% of my shots and most of the time wittle my down relatively quick. Drink a pyro before that, and it goes down to 60%. Being able to root and daze is my only friend as a none medic profession.

The only attack which will prevent the target from healing is concussion. So it has coem down to me watching the combat log as I fight and tryign to figure out their healin macros timing. Once I do, I am abel to stun, daze, root, heal, wait for the macro to try and go, and then after it has gone but done nothing becuase they are dazed, go for a kd, and 2 power attacks. I basically rinse and repeat.

I've only run one of my targets out of force. All the others ones, just were out gunned.

CMs, are basically the same thing. There debuffs hardly ever miss... even though my defense is through the roof. They can heal effectively better than a jedi, and are a dime a dozen now a days. EVERYONE is now medic. There isn't variety. This indicates an imbalance.

When everyone flocks to a profession ,genereally its becuase it is the only way to win.

If it never changes I don't really care, I have what works for me and my play style. But it took me close to a year to figure out hwo to play and win. Where as a CM needs only a week.





i had MCM way before the craze ... and it pains me to see the proffession being attacked now ... sure many have it .. but what people are failing to realize is .. many have it for one reason and one reason only .. master defenders/master sabers/ with the remaining SPin amishmash of heal and 0003/2 enhance ...


agaisnt this template MCM is the best .. and as you say there may be an imbalance in NUMBERS of MCM/BHin comparison to other templated BH.. that was because there was an imbalance in NUMBERS of master defenders.. the template is a weapon to take out that breed of jedi ..


and i guarantee anyone, there are other templates out there which can toast MCM/BH in PVP as if they were nothin:


TKM-MDOC-PIKEMAN 0010-ENHANCED REFLEXES 0400-COMBAT PROWESS 0044


try that template and not only will you destroy any MCM/BH around, youcan take jedi too



you can substitute TKM with SWORDSMAN, they both work just as effectively, but TKM has nice self buffs and force of will for those too close to call fights.. with a kick ass knuckler you can be insanely good as a non jedi ...


also rifleman ( high damage and snares an MCM wont even get to you)with masterdoc ...pistoleer (with its root but more importantly disarm shot and a nice casing enhancedscatter or FWG .. forget about it )with master doc ..

Message Edited by Thassk on 10-08-2005 05:05 AM



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Thassk
Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:46 am
#90


Message Edited by Thassk on 10-08-2005 05:04 AM



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Ekwalizer
Sat Oct 08, 2005 5:43 am
#91






Calel_Haven wrote:


ROFL. You have an answer for everything dont you. Becuase having a droid out all the time is practical right? But of course, you dont care about that.

Moving on.


Even my MBH/CM friends on Farstar admit the template is overpowered considering how easy it is to obtain in comparison to Jedi. What ever happened to the 1.5% stronger BS lol. History. But here we have BH assuming they should be on a par with a Jedi toe to toe.


The only people who WONT admit that the MBH/CM is overpowered are MBH/CM. Your nerf is coming wheter you like it or not becuase everyone but you accepts it's too powerful, and a player should not have to spend trillions on equipement in order to be able to equal another profession in combat.


I have a JK friends and MBH/MCM friends. They can kick the JK ass. Sure the fight is always lengthy, but the outcome is always the same. Wear Jedi mind down and the rest is history. I dont give a rats ass how many BH come one and rant about how we should learn our template, the fact is, I invested WAY more time in reaching my template than ANY BH ever did, and being so underpowered to a specific template is a joke. I wouldnt even mind a fair fight, but at the moment it goes one way always to these guys.


Well no point arguing about it. As I said, a nerf to this profession is only a matter of time.


See you on the battlefield.








The option is there, use it or don't but don't tell me that I cannot use it.


1.5x more powerful. I love how Jedi try to fall back on this one. Single Jedi Discipline Master of any variety = CL80.

Single non-Jedi Combat Profession of any variety (except Ranger)= CL 54.

80 divided by 54 = 1.48.


That my friend is your 1.5 times more powerful. This equation means absolutely nothing when we get into Double Mastery (on either side). But, this is where your Jedi = 1.5x more powerful garbage comes from.


A Single Master Jedi WILL have no trouble at all with a CL54 MBH .... or even 5 of them at the same time.


Like I said, all bets are off when two Double Masters (one Jedi and on Non-Jedi) square off. It all comes down to PvP experience at that point.


Please stop crying on this forum because a real live person fights differently than a nest of Pickets,



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