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Thread: Since we are about to EAT HOT NERF...

Grozurr
Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:36 pm
#66






REDLION78 wrote:

How can I ask my entire Guild to come help me kill an undetermined amout of BSTs who may or may not Drop what I need. Then drag them down to the DWB to find more crap that may or may not drop. Then after all that time and effort tell them to come with me and the guild weaponsmith to the bottom of the DWB to maybe craftONE piece of Mando just for ME.

I say leave the DWB as it is. I say leave Mando as it is. However we as Bounty Hunters have said for a long time "we would like some Bounty Hunter Armor". We are willing to work for it but it is not reasonableto ask that many other players to spend that much time just to helpME get one piece of armor...maybe.






hehe my guild does this for fun. maybe we just work really well together or something but we (and some unguilded but very friendly persons) have been able to go down multiple times, get the bits and pieces for the armor and jetpack, and so far crafted a jetpack, and are working on the armor. don't know about your guild but in mine it goes something like this:


GuildmemberA: hey anyone want to come down to the DWB?

GuildmemberB: sure i'll come.

GuildmembersCDandE: hey we'll come too.

GuildmemberA: cool. i'll gather up a few more. if anyone else wants to come speak up. meet in endor smuggler op in 15 min.


Ok a bit simplified and cheesey, but that's more or less how it works in my guild. On occasion we'll plan one of these events ahead of time but it more or less happens on the fly and some groups go down multiple times in a day to loot or attempt to make stuff.


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Eskie
Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:36 pm
#67



REDLION78 wrote:

It was in your forums...Besides, when have you guys not got what you wanted. The way you guys use "FORCE WHINE"...BTW, which skill tree is that in?

Well since you posted nothing constructive for us to comment on...I guess ill move on.

Good day SIR





Our "/forcewhine" doesnt equal yours, and you are not even FS. Every day you make up a thread with your suggestions, then back down from your suggestions as soon as people say they wouldnt be viable in game for whatever reason they point out, if you even listen to the points they bring forward, that is. To me it seems as if you wanted to have everything this game has to offer within the next 8 weeks, and that you want to be as "powerful" as you think Jedi are without the grind they have to do.



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REDLION78
Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:41 pm
#68

Man, you guys work well together... I am sure my guild would be the same , but I would feel wrong for asking them for somthing like this...even though I would not give it a second thought if one of my brothers wanted to do it...Im there for them and they for me.


Thanks for your post...do you have a full suit?


REDLION78
Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:54 pm
#69

Thanks for your post...


First...if someone has a good Idea, I do listen. If their point is valid, then what is so wrong with changing my views. So I now see the importance of keeping Mandolorian Armor rare...So what if I dont want it to become as common and cheapas Jedi are. Anyone cansolo grindJedi. No one can solo the DWB...this makes mando special and Jedi ....well....dispointing


Ifthe Jedi profession was as hard to obtain asMando Armor...it may actually mean something to be a Jedi.


My position has not changed on theone issue this thread is all about...Now that our content is being cut, we would like to see more content in the form of quests.


Quiet420
Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:56 pm
#70



shhh


he didn't say anything that deserved that type of response, you know, we're all in this together...and yes...BH's days of griefing are over...there have already been statements that more BH content is in the works...and there are alot of potentials that havn't even been properly explored. increased depth to npc bh missions is one avenue...here is another


PVP rating based named bounties


the pvp rating mechanic, with a minimal amount of coding would allow BH's to step into a larger world of pvp facing a greater variety of opponents....it would be relatively simple and straightforward....this would be an opt in system directly based on a players pvp rating....all characters start at 1200 pvp rating...to raise this rating requires killing other players, on a more frequent basis than you are, yourself killed...surely there are consequences when one takes a life....example pvp based BH missions are displayed below



1201-1250 Anonymous Thug/Dissident 2 possible missions open


1251-1300 Anonymous Outlaw/Insurgent 3 possible missions open


1301-1400 Anonymous Murderer/Terrorist 4 possible missions open


1401-1500 Anonymous Serial Killer/Guerilla 5 possible missions open


1501-1600 NamedPsychopath/Revoloutionary 2 possible missions open


etc etc etc


this system would be selfregulating as BH's (and Jedi too for that matter) would be subject to the same standardsand since you have to actively engage in pvp in order to accumulate pvp rating, andyou pretty much have to intend to elevate your pvp rating in order to do so,and it is very easy to get rid of, it would ensure no one was unfairly victumized. it would allow BH's to still pursue named targets...and above all...seems to me it would make sense


FYI I'm >1700 pvp rating

Message Edited by Quiet420 on 07-15-2005 04:06 AM

JoBoFedderish
Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:23 am
#71

I have played for over a year and killed many BS and have gotten, are you ready, NO DROPS! Thats right not one friggin drop, so I quit hunting Black Sun, its retarded, yeah you can have jedi rather easily but you want BH armor? LOL...sure, just do an insanly difficult, long and tedious grind to get an armor that isnt really all that great.....nah.....oh and make sure you have JEDI help you! LOL!



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Bennn
Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:38 am
#72

One problem with jedi being as hard as mando. What would the bounty hunters do show off about there recent NPC kill?




briwi
Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:45 am
#73

Well I think we should try it out before we hate it.I do think they need to make alot of changes to improve us not hurt us.





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KainMalice
Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:22 am
#74

heh I think the ppl that need the most love in the game are smugglers, rangers, crafters, entertainers, just about anyone but Jedi and bh.



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scoodoobydoo
Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:56 am
#75


nerf shoes i saw a guy with shoes and he wastes 89 skillpoints and 15,220,000 exp to get them so he could run fast


i am a m armor


and i have a self snare now my ability went up from 800 to 1k cost the one that makes me invincible for 30 seconds


nerf shoes they wasted theyre skillpoints also


if u stack mshoes with m invisible 28 sp 3 mil exp ONLY then OMg Rofls


he can run then go invis at 10 Meters cause im laggy (cloak works at 20 meters no less You lagg)


oh em gee /nerfbatFlurry_3


noone with that much skillpoints wasted to run fast should run fast!


NERF SHOES rofls...rofls..



oh and mandalorian armor is rarer then jedi ( they died out 4000 years before episode 4 except for one bloodline)



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Nathanielstarr
Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:49 pm
#76






Tapa wrote:





REDLION78 wrote:


I understand, but what other profession in the game right now hunts theAlpha Class (Jedi)as part oftheir job? I have said it many times, I hope things improve for all other profs. But I am here (bh forums) talking about ways to improve our content....






If by alpha-class you mean a class of players who have to use strategy and technique to beat a normal combat profession because they have a lower DPS not always true, jedi can definetly attack faster and those with good sabers out damage the best rifles and they do so at a faster rate, worse heals than the professions that soul purpose is to heal maybe slightly less , less defenses dont jedi have an ability that increases their defenses by 500, no armor force armor, and 4 bars to manage, then yes, you should be equal. Lets nerf BH to the level of Jedi, now that Jedi have been nerfed so even a level 54 respec BH can kill a level 80 knight without breaking a sweat.





Tapa
Sat Jul 16, 2005 7:19 pm
#77






Nathanielstarr wrote:






Tapa wrote:





REDLION78 wrote:


I understand, but what other profession in the game right now hunts theAlpha Class (Jedi)as part oftheir job? I have said it many times, I hope things improve for all other profs. But I am here (bh forums) talking about ways to improve our content....






If by alpha-class you mean a class of players who have to use strategy and technique to beat a normal combat profession because they have a lower DPS not always true, jedi can definetly attack faster and those with good sabers out damage the best rifles and they do so at a faster rate, worse heals than the professions that soul purpose is to heal maybe slightly less , less defenses dont jedi have an ability that increases their defenses by 500, no armor force armor, and 4 bars to manage, then yes, you should be equal. Lets nerf BH to the level of Jedi, now that Jedi have been nerfed so even a level 54 respec BH can kill a level 80 knight without breaking a sweat.











Any post-cu Jedi cannot get a higher dps,pre-cu flawless pearls cost 4 mil a piece on Eclipse, times that by 4 for a saber is 16 mil, and thats hoping they get perfect tunes, then factor in resource cost, as most of our resources for sabers on eclipse run between 50-300 cpu, THEN you need 20 exp pts from CA's, that alone is 30 mil on eclipse. So conservatively speaking for a pre-cu Jedi to have a saber that is comparably to a loot-made or looted rifle, we have to spend 50 mil and hope for good tunes/experiment sucesses. Where a good loot-made or looted weapon will go for 10 mil or less.



Master Healers spend more SP's in HEALING than a master doctor, and will be outhealed by one everytime, a doctor also has rez ability, armor, melee and ranged defenses, and an area heal.


Not everyone has force-armo, and it is not a real armor, it is also weaker than armor you could purchase if certified to wear. Not everyone has defender either. A master TK with novice doctor can outtank just a master defender.






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RC-1140
Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:28 pm
#78


Hi Guys, I'm a Master Commando/Master Bounty Hunter, and I've gotta say, my BH half is in a lot better shape than my Commando half. I think we should be fixing broken stuff before adding content for one of the best working professions in the game. As far as Mandalorian armor goes, It isn't really a BH specific armor (though many BHs like to think it is). Mandalorians were more commando than anything, it's just that the only guys in the movies that wore it happened to be bounty hunters. But lets look at Jango for a moment. We saw him using a flame thrower and a rocket launcher. Hmmm...what SWG profession uses weapons like that? If you ask me, Jango was a MBH/MC. Face it, the armor is more for commandos than BHs, so a BH specific quest for it is not a good idea. Now, I realize you've changed your opinion and decided that another BH specific armor should be added. Hmm...I'd say you're set there, since there is a "Bounty Hunter" armor in game already. But I do believe it should be made useful for Bounty Hunters. I say make it more attainable, and energy resistant (Why on earth were BHs given armor that is not good for Jedi fighting?). And it should be BH only, not assault. Now, you can't just stop there, You have to add perks for other professions as well. Commandos have been asking for ARC Trooper or Republic Commando armor for a while nowas anexample. Rangers need something. Smugglers need something. I think the hybrid profession need stuff in particular. I see the others as basic "soldier" classes, while the hybrids are "elites" since they require more dedication and skillpoints. Commandos, BHs, Squadleaders, Rangers, Smugglers, and CMs (I hope I didn't forget any) are all specialty professions, so they should have "special" stuff. Anyway, no offense, but I think you guys are very well off as far as content goes. You have your own armor, you get to hunt players, and you have your own terminals! Geez, Smugglers have nothing to smuggle! Commandos are demolitionists with nothing to destroy! I know both of those professions are seriously lacking content. How about we fix the forgotten professions and give them some content, then start adding things for those of us that are in good shape.


Oh, by the way, I do agree with your idea. BHs should have armor that is good for bounty hunting, and some BH specific content. Idea threads are always fun. Let's just remember that there are other aspects of the game that should take priority.




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