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Thread: You Respeced to MBH and Want to Hunt The Jedi...

guessit
Tue May 24, 2005 6:50 am
#66



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Message Edited by guessit on 05-24-2005 06:51 AM



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Finkstar
Tue May 24, 2005 5:44 pm
#67


Here's a good question: After I launch the Arakyd, how do I find the probot that lands?



-Finno Josan
Carbineer of Bria
guessit
Wed May 25, 2005 3:13 am
#68

ctl m look for white thing on map.





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Kruks
Wed May 25, 2005 4:35 am
#69






Tanks wrote:


You respeced to MBH and now want to enjoy hunting Jedi, but have a problem do not know how the profession works.


Well, the following is a short summary.


Bounty Hunters hunt marks, NPC and Jedi, using droids which are sold by droid engineers. There are two kinds of droids, an Arakyd droid, and a seeker droid. You will use an Arakydn only once in a mission, but might have tolaunch several seekers.


The Arakyd droid is used only once. It is the droid you use to find the planet that your mark is on. You will use the seeker droid once you arrive at the planet.


The sequence for a bounty mission is terminal->informant->Arkaydn->seeker->mark.


Lets start a mission:



  • Go to a BH terminal and look for missions. Once you select a mission it will be downloaded to your datapad.

  • Next you need to talk to an informant (list is stickied), but the most common one used is in Kaadara next to the star port (convenient).

  • You talk to the informant, and he will give you the bio-signature of your mark.

  • Now, you are ready to launch and Arakyd probe. You have to go outside the city limits for this.

  • Using the radial menu on the probe, launch it, you will see some system messages and in a short while (20 secs or so), the probe will land.

  • Go to the Probot that lands, click on it to activate the radial menu and transmit the bio signature.

  • After a short while you will get a message saying that your mark is on Planet XXX.

  • Go to the planet, and you will see a waypoint to your mission. That was the mark location at the time you transmitted the bio-signature.

  • Launch a seeker droid, using "Find and Track" option.

  • After a while your WP will update and will keep on updating at regular intervals. If you get a message saying "...droid lost target", launch another seeker.

  • Go to your mark and collect you bounty.

Because we all know its that easy!!!!


Now, the above sequence of events is for any mark. Of course for Jedi, you have to check to see if he/she is online. Best way to do this is to put them on your friends' list. Do not pick up the mission of Jedi that is not online.


Most importantly, try an NPC mission if you have never hunted bounties before. It is a good exercise to learn the mechanics of droids and missions, plus 30K is much better than regular destroy missions anyway.


Message Edited by Tanks on 05-02-2005 09:44 PM








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Ghinjorn
Thu May 26, 2005 5:59 am
#70






Sunrunner_Cixx wrote:


Tanks makes me sick to encourage griefing the remainging Jedi knowing dang well that everyone has respec'd BH and once you kill a jedi you basically set him back months in this current system. Think what you want but this type of encouragement is totally sad in everyway.



SOE planned that everyone go BH and ppl like Tanks to send them for the Great SOE Jedi purge after were gone BHs will be nerfed bigtime.










GJ Tanks... Lets see if we can get all servers full of Respec BH's, using the broken stopping shot, so they can gank on new Padawans trying to earn a 200K low level Jedi box... which currently would take weeks...


Ty for showing respect for people that took months grinding FS, using millions in armor, foods, weapons, etc... just to get ganked by one of the million new bh's while trying to level the only way new padawans can level... hunting with a couple friends in this new wonderful "must group" system you've created






Squeakyshoes wrote:
I have been doing missions with my jedi friend but it was kinda annoying to have a BH after him every ten or five minutes. They should make something about it as it looks as serious harasment and it prevents people from enyoing the game







Hmmm, somehow we are forgetting that this is STAR WARS during the GALACTIC CIVIL WAR when Jedi are almost extinct and the remaining ones are in hiding. They are in hiding for a reason - because they are being HUNTED!!!


SOE is only trying to add a sense of Star Wars reality to the game (don't flame me for the lack of Jedi content - I'm sure it will come eventually...I hope...). If people played Jedi properly they wouldn't have such a problem. You want to play Star Wars or you want to play an uber slasher in EQ?


**And then Sunrunner_Cixxhas the nerve to quote from Yoda in his signature?!**


How's this for a quote:

"All Jedi are now enemies of the Republic"






Nikati
Thu May 26, 2005 5:17 pm
#71

Ok here is a suggestion to help out the poor jedi that are in disorder at this point in the timeline. Have it that one jedi and one padawan can goup and fight with adding no visability and that they can fight together when a BH comes after one of them. BUT ONLY ONE JEDI AND ONE PADAWAN, even thought the chaces of this at this period would be unlikely. Jedi's do complain a lot maybe they should bring back perma death to at least get rid of the ebay jedi's that are probably the loudest complainers (but maybe not). I saw 8 imp jedi's in theed last night and others passing through. Yea jedi's have such a hard life with so many openly running around.
DakuDethbender
Thu May 26, 2005 6:04 pm
#72

I have heard arguments from both sides of the fence. I have heard jedi complain about BH's and I have heard old school BH complain about Respec'd BH's. I can see each sides points they are trying to make in this argument. I am a respec'd BH. I was Master Rifleman and Master Creature Handler before the respec came available. First of all, the Jedi need to take in consideration that if jedi was an easy grind to make, everyone would be a Jedi instead of a BH. Second of all, the Old School BH's that have a problem with respec'd BH's need to take in consideration that they are not the only proff that can be respec'd into. I understand that both of these proffessions are time consuming and hard to grind. Master Creature Handler is not an easy grind to do either, in fact it is one of the hardest to master. My major beef is with the Bounty Hunter (Old School or Respec'd), that likes to "camp" a jedi. If you beat the Jedi and collect your bounty, then kudos to you. But if you beat the Jedi and continue to chase that Jedi's bounty everytime it comes up on the terms, then you have lost the whole concept of being a BH and it is borderline harrassment.If a Jedi is taken down by a BH, please remember its part of the game. It is not meant to be easy if you are striving for excellence. None of this is personal. I think we all need to remember that this is a game. Is it really worth getting yourself all worked up about? I've been playing since the beginning of 04' and I have learned to roll with the punches. I am going through the FS grind right now and I know I will share in the frustration of losing xp, but I also know its just part of the game. Just something to think about...
Vuko
Tue May 31, 2005 12:40 am
#73

The whole debate over BH Jedi killing is just going to take some getting use to. I've played on Valcyn since launch and pursued the BH profession from the begining. I stopped short of MBH at 3444 BH and spent my extra points dabbling in other professions since at the time both master marksman and master scout were required. The bugged BH missions took their tole on meuntili was fed up. I took a break from the game for a few months andcame back and realized that i could respec to what ever my liking so of corse i finished my proffession (all i needed was a few more missions worth of invest xp, master xpI already had). Now I played a gimped proffession for a LONG time hoping that one day it would be fixed, while jedi were allowedthe means to exploit and avoid BH's with ease. Well Jedi the day of the BH has come and now the tables have turned. This is how the game was intended to work.I dont think there is any further balancing that needs to be done. You want to be a Jedi, you want to be all powerful, you want to run around with your light saber blazing and your lighting flashing?


Then earn it.


It's a tough universe but there are Jedi out there pursuing their dreams and finding creative ways to continue their xp gain. No one said it would be easy and there is no need forJedi to get a free ride.


That said, I may come off a bit harsh but i still play with honor and respect for my fellow players. Due to the large amount of jedi that jump onto their swoops at the first sight of a player arrow moving in on their over head map i have come to assume the tactics of rushing in guns blazing and asking questions later. After the first time I kill a jedi, if they appear decent I offer them a deal. The next time I get their mission I will let them know I am coming and allow them time to prepare. If I beat them in combat and they pay my bounty, i will not DB them. I will drop the mission and allow them at least 3days before I return. If they win I leave and re-asses my tactics. If they run, hide in a house, planet jump, or speak to me rudely to me for playing my profession the way it was intended, then say hello to my little friend death blow and bubby to your xp. If they have insufficient funds to pay me off then sorry friend, but your are on the terminal for a reason.


I also offer a buy-out, which for a hefty fee a Jedi can have me off their back permanently. I enjoy hunting jedi, i enjoy pvp with them, but i see no reason to make enemies where it isnt necessary. Also to all those 225K+ knights out there with god mode (aka master defender with healing capabilities). Ya you've done it, your at the top, but who says being a BH is about taking on the biggest baddest bounty you can find where its impossible to over come. Is that how you reached master level jedi by going out and dieing fighitng things you had no chance to beat? No. Bounty Hunting is about being smart and cunning, taking on missions that you can handle and learning how to become mroe efficient (for me at least). As my Jedi hunting skills improve I move up to higher pay out missions with tougher marks. When i come for your little paddy friend who's jumpin on his swoop you dont need to beak me and my guild and everyone associated with me for playing my profession just cause i wont let you DB me to get me off said friends back.


For all the respec BH out there. It's our time to shine and take on our role in SWG, keeping the Jedi population down, making people think twice about playing jedi, and slowing the advancement of those who decide to.


Vuko Ocaru


MBH/MP/CM4000
Bigbootybh
Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:02 pm
#74


"A Happy Accident"


I was watching these two Bol Bols mate and it got out of hand, so I stepped backward. However, the my gear was behind me so I tripped and was sodomized by my flamethrower. One would think that this would be a bad deveopment, but it's not. Why? Now when I open my mouth flames come out. The DSP is like 2000. So if you want this kind of uber ham damage potential, watch some bol bols mate and accidentally slip and fall on the barrel of you flamethrower, you'll thank me later. I know what you're thinking, why haven't you seen a doctor to remove that thing. Well for one, flames come out of my mouth like that guy in Big Trouble Little China, or a Dragon. I guess its more like a Dragon, but still you have to admit that guy in "Big Trouble" was awesome. Secondly, it hasn't effected my love life very much. Last night I picked up a wookie, and she didn't mind, she said it was kind of attractive.
Vejjar
Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:47 pm
#75

"Reading the updates for May 5th, I think they are in the process of making Jedi more powerful. There really is no reason why they should be so easy to take down (not that I will try, I neither want to grind it or kill it, I merely ignore it). "











You sir , are in for a disapointment. Try Force run and Force channeling getting nerfed.
Mordib1
Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:28 pm
#76



Tanks wrote:
You respeced to MBH and now want to enjoy hunting Jedi, but have a problem do not know how the profession works.
Well, the following is a short summary.
Bounty Hunters hunt marks, NPC and Jedi, using droids which are sold by droid engineers. There are two kinds of droids, an Arakyd droid, and a seeker droid. You will use an Arakydn only once in a mission, but might have to launch several seekers.
The Arakyd droid is used only once. It is the droid you use to find the planet that your mark is on. You will use the seeker droid once you arrive at the planet.
The sequence for a bounty mission is terminal->informant->Arkaydn->seeker->mark.
Lets start a mission:
  • Go to a BH terminal and look for missions. Once you select a mission it will be downloaded to your datapad.
  • Next you need to talk to an informant (list is stickied), but the most common one used is in Kaadara next to the star port (convenient).
  • You talk to the informant, and he will give you the bio-signature of your mark.
  • Now, you are ready to launch and Arakyd probe. You have to go outside the city limits for this.
  • Using the radial menu on the probe, launch it, you will see some system messages and in a short while (20 secs or so), the probe will land.
  • Go to the Probot that lands, click on it to activate the radial menu and transmit the bio signature.
  • After a short while you will get a message saying that your mark is on Planet XXX.
  • Go to the planet, and you will see a waypoint to your mission. That was the mark location at the time you transmitted the bio-signature.
  • Launch a seeker droid, using "Find and Track" option.
  • After a while your WP will update and will keep on updating at regular intervals. If you get a message saying "...droid lost target", launch another seeker.
  • Go to your mark and collect you bounty.

Now, the above sequence of events is for any mark. Of course for Jedi, you have to check to see if he/she is online. Best way to do this is to put them on your friends' list. Do not pick up the mission of Jedi that is not online.

Most importantly, try an NPC mission if you have never hunted bounties before. It is a good exercise to learn the mechanics of droids and missions, plus 30K is much better than regular destroy missions anyway.

Message Edited by Tanks on 05-02-2005 09:44 PM






Or there is the old timer beta bounty hunters, such as myself, who believe that player Jedi should have never been introduced into the SWG game, argued that with the Devs during beta, and got overruled.

Our argument? Player Jedi simply could never be balanced in PvP with us "regular folk". They would amount to a "god mode" class. Oh how true that rings out now. I really wish I could personally take a Dev's nose who was arguing against us in beta and say "I told you so"....rub their nose in it. It would be somewhat gratifying at this point.

In any case, since player Jedi are not going to be removed from the game at this point, the solution is to remove them from the GCW entirely, AND to remove them from the BH terminals as well. NPC jedi would be the only available Jedi targets on the terminals. Fair is fair, after all.

Let the Jedi have their "god complex wars" between themselves....but they don't have to involve the rest of us in them.



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Master Bounty Hunter
Kiri Storm - Imperial Inquisition

Shierre
Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:46 am
#77

At this time I fail to see how Jedi are all uber powerful. If anyone has noticed their sabers arent the greatest dps weapons available by a long shot. There is somehting about them being 1.5 times more powerful then another class.. might be true when they are finished template against a single mastery class.


Yes I have a jedi. And yes I have played BH and my jedi has been killed by a BH. I even spoke to the guy for about half an hour afterwards and there was no bad feelings either way. As is said its part of the game.


To the BH saying its our time. Why change anything its good as it is Jedi just don't like they can be killed. Jedi have been nerfed is all I can say. Saber block is out the window now its no where near what it used to be. To get saber block back to the 80 mark you must be a knight ranked in the frs or some such... and none of that is activated at the moment. Skills are there but unaccessable. Jedi run when you get there? Maybe its cause depending no their classes they have they may not have much in the way of ranged attacks and most jedi can be positive of a BH using some form of root or snare etc as is fair to do. They are just saving their own butts.


As for saying about not taking a 250k mission, why take on someone you will troubles with, go for the easier targets. While that's all well and good is it a challenge? Someone came out with a good idea on another board about jedi missions should be flay pay across the board and character name not given of target till within a certain distance of them. That sounds fair atleast to me. Yes alot of BH posted... well whines about that not being fair to them. But really is it fair you can take a mission, see if the person is online, dump retry... of course BH will say yes it is. BH are supposed to be some of the toughest people in the galaxy but here some are tough adn uber if you ask them... but I won't take Mack McMuscleman's 250k mission, look here is Penfold Mc Weakling for 120k he will do... roxxorz I will own this guy and prove how bada$$ I am. You want the realistic feel of hardly any jedi around but you want to find them within 10 seconds to get your payout and look for someone else 20 cl lower then you to beat snot out of. I would like to see it made so that BH can only take missions of people withing 5cl of themselves or something. Can you tell I don't like the "PWNED UR @@S, I ROXXORZ" cl 80 BH that stand over their cl 50 - 60 targets saying how good they are they took a jedi down. I know not every BH is like that, it's just the few giving the rest a bad name.


Also would like to see added so that people could place cash and missions at terminals for other PC's. What would be wrong with that? People forced into pvp? Oh well to bad the end content is mainly pvp. Make the min patments that can be placed something like 200k or more and a person can only be put on boards once in a set time say a week or 2.


Now there is always the jedi should hunt alone to not get vis... if jedi are so powerful why is it, it takes alot of force to kill a creature your own level plus heals and at the end of that you are out of commission for 5 minutes to get force back?


Yes Jedi can get powerful but they aren't as powerful as is being said. With how just saber block has been changed around I would put it on par with making any armor for BH removed and placed into a box above master bh that no one is allowed to use until further notice because its locked out of play.


Now someone can rattle on saying I am whining or some such. Just letting you see the otherside of it is all.





Livonya
Stinney
Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:01 am
#78

The above post makes areference to a BH standing over a defeated jedi saying how "Uber" they are and how bada$$ they are, pwned roxxxoers suxxoors n00b, etc, and how the few who do give the rest a bad name.

Jedi are guilty of the same thing.




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