Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Killed a Knight
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tej434 wrote:
To the idiot jedi talking about some kind of exploit because he healed the entertainer, welcome to the game, you are a moron.
KammaRocca wrote:
If there are no knights/masters/etc., someone should explain that to the Jedi running around with the title over their heads. If he has a smuggler title, he must be a smuggler. If he's wearing a bounty hunter title, he must be a bounty hunter. If he's wearing a Jedi knight tag, he must be a Jedi knight.
Anytime you get a tittle from a profession you ALWAYS keep that tittle, even when you drop the skills, you still have the tittle. Means absolutly nothing to what you actually are. I dropped BH a couple of months ago but enjoy walking around with my Master Bounty Hunter tittle up and getting all the duel challenges and such. Being a Carbineer/Doc, once one challenges me I gladly accept
Tsemarah wrote:
As a huntress for over 1.5 years, I applaud your actions. Finding your mark at the right time, the right place, and at the right moment to strike is the key to take any template down.
3 things matter in our bussiness. Position, position, position.
That is also coming from a pre cu former dark jedi enforceress rank 3
Message Edited by SgtSixpack on 10-13-2005 10:10 PM
armord1 wrote:
Quit putting this guy down. He killed a jedi with a GUN,more than i can say to just about every other BH out there.Congrats man.
When is the last time you've played?
You know, I don't often pop in here, but I will anyways...
Regarding the Knight title/benefits... You're all aware that the bonuses that Knight status gave (Rank 0 FRS) were 5% higher Force Cost (yes, higher) and 2-3% better Powers damage or Enhancer efficiency? The difference between full-template Padawan and Rank 0 Knight were practically meaningless, so your argument that he's not *really* a Knight is technically true, but as meaningless as the distinction between Paddy and Rank 0 Knight in the skill trees. As well, you don't take into account the fact that a player with the Knight title has been full-template since before the CU came out and has a ton of experience under his belt.
"Jedi Knight" can be more than a title, you know.
That is what you call the 80% block they had precurb that they dont have now? same reason most bh where melee precurb to be able to kill jedi.
Most precurb jedi where mls/master enhancer healer 4/0/0/4 so I'm pretty sure they dont need any experience to be able to block 80% of the ranged attacksonly way for a ranged player to be able to kill a jedi was with some insane dots since it was 1/50+ hits and the reason bhhad melee profs in there template was becuase jedi did not have any dmg mitigation so once dizzy/kd jedi will go down fast if you where a master tka, oncecouple jedi got smart and started getting kd/dizzy defense attachments and foods bh againt changeto pikeman being one of the profs with more dot weapons and using psg with saber resist, then the fightclub jedi start appearing and you got master ehnacers running around with force armor with 90%resist to all so you need it 2 or 3 melee bhs to kill them or one with some exceptional weapons.
so jedi only got good in pvp or vs bh if the had the equipment becuase even if you had experience and not the equipmentjedi was a easy kill.
Arrain wrote:
LegendaryOne wrote:
the tag "Jedi Knight" is related to that jedi's position in the Jedi level tree, not by their position in the force ranking system like the tags "Dark Jedi Consular" those jedi who are jedi knights may not be able to wear their appropriate robes since that is part of the force ranking system, but they are by all means a jedi knight. I would think you would applaud any bounty hunter who defeated a jedi, especially one of such prestige... no honor among theives?
For me personally (and I understand I'm in the minority), theres no honour in walking up to a target who has his back turned and his hands tied, and blowing a hole in him without so much as a 'how do you do?' - however this is the bread and butter style that most bounty hunters adopt.
Tapping him on the shoulder, untying his hands, giving him a hearty handshake and then proceeding to systematically take him apart carries more 'honour'.
Bounty hunting itself is something of a profession that does not lend itself freely to an honourable exchange, especially in the context of a computer game - however in terms of the play experience of both parties involved and the recognition of skill involved, I prefer to take a more 'friendly handshake before I kill you' approach.
Message Edited by Arrain on 10-13-2005 03:50 PM
Oh, didn't mean towards the target you're hunting, I meant among other bounty hunters, people were putting down this guys accomplishment just because some of the enhancments granted by the FRS were not available to the jedi, butthe jedi wasexperienced enough to be a knight, so the kill was an accomplishment in itself, just seemed, and should be acknowldeged, and not challenged
SgtSixpack wrote:
How would u judge a jedi to have "experience"? Maybe they have experience in using force run... Just cause ur a full template, doesnt mean ur experienced. I had a pikeman dot **edit** come for me pre cu, and I wasnt master healer and I was short work. I had trained jedi for 3-4months solid but I had no idea how to fight a dot **edit**.I did fight a guildy with a 30mill pike and pwnd his ass even when he used master brawler warcry, and he cried cause I ran off (unable to use fr) for 20sec, but duels and bounties arent the same thing.
Tsemarah wrote:
As a huntress for over 1.5 years, I applaud your actions. Finding your mark at the right time, the right place, and at the right moment to strike is the key to take any template down.
3 things matter in our bussiness. Position, position, position.
That is also coming from a pre cu former dark jedi enforceress rank 3
LOL, I remember u being a jedi hater pre CU and now ur a pre CU jedi? My foot!That is sure one ugly looking scrawny long necked creature strangling ET in the photo. Friggin ebay'er.Message Edited by SgtSixpack on 10-13-2005 10:10 PM
Get a clue you idiot.
Fura was a pre cu jedi, and a pre cu BH and a way nicer and better player than youll ever be.
Remove your head from between your cheeks once in a while and the air may clear long enough for you to see sense.
Arrain.
You are a dork.
But I love you anyway.
Yeah, I'm more into the low-down dirty gaming experience of playing a Bounty Hunter toon in a Star Wars video game.
Honor? Respect? I might pursue those in real life, even though they're not the biggest virtues in today's society even (I happen to be a disgruntled altruist and idealist myself!)
In the video game, I just wanna blow other people's avatar's heads off. =P From behind, preferably.
Some dude was saying how just cause he had a Jedi Knight tag didn't mean he was experienced.
True, given the possibility that the Jedi was an eBay Jedi! But, I spoke to him after it all went down, and he seemed to know his stuff. He managed to fight off otherBHs for three days until I got him. Seemed to know his stuff, so my guess is he's experienced.
Thanks for all the cookies offered. Really appreciate it. I love cookies.
Message Edited by MohdriDarkstar on 10-15-2005 02:16 AM
tej434 wrote:
Maxanto wrote:
Cerosis wrote:
Maxanto wrote:
alphawolf100 wrote:
Maxanto wrote:
Ah A bug/exploit assisted kill. Yes something to be proud of indeed.
MohdriDarkstar wrote:
HeadRoll wrote:
He must not have had aura / valor going. I recently killed a 226k Jedi. Similiar circumstances. Was late at night and had tracked this mark to a city on Naboo. As I was watching the seeker updates, I noticed they were coming straight to the shuttleport. So I /concealed and lie in wait. Less then 4 shots later they were incapped and soon,DB'ed. Was not a whiner tho, they just said they were completely caught off guard with no defenses running.
Cha Ching !
Ya, this "Jedi Knight" (it was the tag he had up, was Pre-CU I guess)I killed also was a 226K Jedi. Got a bundle of credits and all I was expecting was a trip to the cloner. =)
He was in a cantina, had a dancer targetted, and apparently was going through his inventory (with no aura or valor up.) That's when I decided to hit him, even though he had stood behind me just outside of the starport while I pretended to not notice him. Didn't get a /duel message from him, but that doesn't mean he wasn't trying it. If he had done it, he either is really bad or just really didn't think I was a threat and when I didn't attack him right away he wrote me off and went about his business.
I saw his toon clapping indicating watching an Entertainer (had him on /examine while I stood outside), and noticed he didn't have defenses up. Walked in, /underhand, /crit, /quick, /crit, /quick, /crit, /deathblow. He was trying to heal the entertainer at first because guess who he had targetted. =P
He was a good sport though. He just laughed and said congrats, apparently BHs had been trying him non-stop for the past two days and I was the first one to take him down.
Message Edited by MohdriDarkstar on 10-12-2005 12:43 PM
Come on you're going to call that a bug exploit? It wasn't like it was the passthrough healing glitch. the Jedi simply didn't have a macro replacing his heal button for /forceheal self;
It's just a tough break for the jedi.
If the jedi was not in a group and had someone else targeted and could NOT heal himself it is the bug, and this BH clearly rejoices in using bugs to take down his marks... when you use a bug to your advantage in a game its the defination of an exploit.
Pathetic
But the BH has ZERO control over whether or not the Jedi was targeting the Entertainer. Oh, and it isn't a bug that just because you got attacked, your target doesn't automatically shift to the target when you are targeting somebody else. This is because that person technically could be in combat(all be it in a different group) and you could be trying to heal him, but because the game keeps changing targets because you're getting shot you can't.
There was no bug/exploit used here. unless i missed something, which i don't think so
"I saw his toon clapping indicating watching an Entertainer (had him on /examine while I stood outside), and noticed he didn't have defenses up. Walked in, /underhand, /crit, /quick, /crit, /quick, /crit, /deathblow. He was trying to heal the entertainer at first because guess who he had targetted. =P"
That is a bug where you heal soemone else by accident... by this players own admission he waitied and watched till he saw him clapping and then attacked.
Ok wow, you obviously don't PvP what-so-ever and if you do you're not very good. How is a bug to heal other members of your faction standing equal to or below yours? So, you're saying the ability to heal friendly players is a bug?
Once attacked by a BH and you get the BH TEF you cant by definition heal anyone but your self. So the system trying to heal a target rather than healing you is a bug. In most combat if you have your enemy targeted and the system recognized it as an invalid target you will get the heal instead... though that is even buggy as it fails quite often.
On another note. My wife plays a BH and I play on her character from time to time to farm CA's. Shes not a very good gamer, never has been... but has no problem with most fully templated jedi. Any Jedi that has pre-cu sabers/pearls are the only ones that can take on a good BH with any chance of winning. Those that came up after the CU are useless against BH's. I can stand up to any good BH until my force drops... but neither of us can get past eachothers heals... that is until my force runs out. I usualy run make it to a city where i can duck anand weave d stay out of LOS till my force recovers and then continue to fight. I can do this and have done this for hours with no victor. As a jedi its fustrating and as a BH its fustrating. In the old days a BH could take on a Knight and have a helluva fight and it would be decisive for one or the other. If they were ranked then it might take 2, but the fights were fun for both. Now its Jedi have no chance and BH face AFK house sitters or have no real fight at all. So the question is, ultimately, do you want a good fight that you might loose (assuming you are a good BH) or do you prefer easy cash. I for one would love to have the good fights back. Fighting, runing, fighting, running some more is really boring. Ill never back down from a BH fight, its just fight till one of us dont want to do it any more.
