Bounty Hunter Archive

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Jedi_Xan wrote:

you must be jedi. /addignore

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Judging by this, you really oughta remove the bottom line of your sig.

Anyway, denial is not just a river in Egypt. If "/addignore" is all you can come up with in response to my thoughts, then I guess we're agreed on what I said.

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Mars_Guo wrote:

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Jedi_Xan wrote:

you must be jedi. /addignore

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Judging by this, you really oughta remove the bottom line of your sig.

Anyway, denial is not just a river in Egypt. If "/addignore" is all you can come up with in response to my thoughts, then I guess we're agreed on what I said.

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The "always a pleasure to meet a Jedi" is very much sarcasm. At least from a RP perspective. When I get Jedi myself, I will be just a sarcastic with my Jedi. That is just the RP perspective of the game. And I RP it very well.

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wildcard1973 wrote:

Um, how about NO, you want Recon armor certs pick up rifles or pistols, Battle armor, get carbineer

you have the points to get both, but don't ask for recon armor so you can keep MBH/MCM

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Jedi_Xan wrote:

Is there a way that we can get certs for all 3 classes of Armor. Assault armor is crap against Jedi, and I am certain the devs know this, and since we have rifle certs, pistol certs, and carbine certs... then it only makes sense we should get all three armor types as well. Make it an MBH only thing.

Also, Can we get a mitigation that will allow us not to have Weapon Hinderance. Now that jedi hunting is where it belongs, it is time that devs step up to the plate and give us these things we need to complete our mission.

3 armor certs and appropriate mitigations...

no weapon hinderance.

among other things that are sure to come.

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Adrasteia wrote:

I knew where you were coming from, from the beginning

Sure I agree with you on your point of making MBH take 220-250 or being a single level 80 mastery. However, that being said unless 1 or 2 things happen:

1) Making their offensive skills apply only to Jedi
2) Make dabling in impossible

Because still if you dont do those 2 things, and MBH becomes stronger, it unbalances the whole playing field, thus making everyone become a BH to compete. And still, a question remains. How strong does this new BH class become?

a) Is it strong enough so that only the best BH's can kill the strongest Jedi? If thats the case not every BH is going to be able to kill a Jedi, thus leading to complaining that BH is not strong enough and needs to be increased or Jedi need to be nerfed etc.

b) Is it so strong that the normal average Joe BH can kill the strongest Jedi? If so, then the best of the best BH's will absolutely roll over Jedi and thus BH becomes the new alpha profession. Why be anything else other than BH?

c) It is so strong that every BH that is a BH can kill the strongest Jedi? You can see what that would lead to.

d) Also Strong as opposed to what? Strong apposed to a Master Defender? So that leads to BH's rolling over non Master Defenders. Making Master Defender a prerequisite. Thus leading to point a.

It's a strange silly thing balance is. Being a coder on a MUD i've had to look at things like this. It's not as easy as you think. Everyone is not the same player, and nobody wants to lose. So no matter how strong you make something, some people will not do well with it others will seem godly with it and everyone one of them will complain. No matter how weak you make something, some people will excel with it making it look stronger than what it really is and others will make it look like the most pityful thing that has ever been created. The strongest profession is not defined by skills, but by the player playing it.

Oh yea the action bug sucks major arsnic. Whoever came up with it and at the same time said it made combat faster and more responsive needs to be kicked in the hiney

Message Edited by Adrasteia on 07-06-2005 06:39 PM

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Jedi_Xan wrote:

You say you are half way through your grind. Really I would hate to hear what you will say once you unlock. You will then REALLY get to see how "uneasy" you thought it was. Then you will come on the jedi forums and cry for BH to be nerfed because they are too strong.... When you get hunted and cant hit for crap or defend for crap. I am done with my temp, was it easy, no way in hell was it. Did I die to a BH, yes. Did I expect it yes. Even now I dont expect to be able to defeat every BH that comes.

If you think you can or should easily be able to take a knight solo, you have another thing coming. Its not like hunting padawans. you actually need to think your strategy, this may also entail changing your temp, otherwise its a one way trip to the cloner.

You guys dont even have enough confidence in your own abilities. You solo Krayts, you take on NS elders, gorax, tank for Necrosis? I don't get it. How much more do you want. .03% of the MBH can even solo a Knight, much less 2 or 3 on one. What more do you expect? Is it too much to ask for an even fight. Mono e Mono. BH on one side, with his technology, and Jedi on the other, with his force. This is more than fair. I feel.

Well, lets see. I can read a radar. I see a blue dot, I am in my house. I got that part down. I have a small deed for a house for all planet types. I guarantee you, it will be planted, and when that blue dot gets within 500m I will be in it, until that threat is gone. Does that mean I will win every fight? Absolutely not.

Not getting vis while grouped will be an awesome plus. I think this will help alot and will reduce paddy hunting by a large margin.

If I do fight at early paddie, they will not face my LS, they will face my 1100 damage rifle, and 8100 resist armor, and 2200 energy psg, my foods, and my BH skills.For some time it looks like as I will be able to keep Master Rifle for along time. Lets see how they handle that.

I am a BH, and I don't have a problem with it. As a Jedi, I will expect it, and all the tricks that come with it.

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I love generalities like "you guys" can do this and do that, meaning that all jedi are created equal. i am a master powers/master lightsbaer by choice and went for an all offense template which is vastly different than many of the different more popular templates out there. i love it despite the fact that i can barely do anything solo since i get hit real hard. i can't solo a krayt, a NS elder, a gorax, or necrosis for that matter since a kaaduu gives me a hard time. if i get hit by one i am dead. does that mean i am ineffective? absolutely not!!! if i have a tank that can hold agro, i can deal out ALOT of pain for a jedi. if i can do that, i am successful. so to the original poster that "you guys" can do this and that and assume that we are all the same is completely wrong. we are not all powerful and we are not without weakness.

the problemas itappears is that the original poster is complaining of his profession simply because he fails to learn and understand his mark. specifically, if you can find your mark's weakness by understanding him, you can find a way to beat him. since he cannot because he sees that all jedi are the same, he complains and tries to blame external factors such as armor or game design when in actuallity it is the hunter that is at fault.

since my t00ns are both a jedi and a MBH (preCU and pre jedi), i think i have some understanding of how jedi can be. as an example, i loved it how many jedi show off their skills in theed especially when they would duel with each other as they waited for the opposing faction to arrive. since i know this tendancy, i used this "weakness" to my advantage which is to wait for them to get in the thick of a duel and/or combat and then jump them. sometimes i would win and sometimes i would lose. i like to think that the times that i did win was because i saw this weakness or opporunity and used it to my advantage. the original poster as it appears to me fails to realize that a BH's main asset is choosing when and where to attack and not in the equipment or skills that appear in his skills window.

so to the original poster and with all due respect, STF Up since the more you respond, the more you look foolish. until you understand your profession as well as your mark's, you will come off as nothing more of as a whiner since you have little evidence or justification to help in your weak arguement. again, i am not trying to flame you but only to help you come with a better overall arguement.

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P__Day wrote:

Armor should be a jedi hunting BH's last worry, your biggest ones should be heals and how to stay out of jedi range, its not that hard 32m.

CM/Bh can kill a full temp, every time the jedi gets close you put him in paralyze and stack electrolyte drains and so on and run out of range.

The original posters problem isnt armor, or anything template wise, its his playing skills.

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first, to answer you... armor is everything. I purchased 8100 energy resist armor, and 1250 stim d's and ruby. Since that time I have lost 0 matches, and stalemated 3. I have beaten 2 226 marks now. I can solo 180 marks all day long. So dont you dare come here questioning my playing skills. I am not the one who has to take on 80k missions because high levels are too hard. I have no problem going up against full templates, I just wish I had some more gadgets to help out.

so to the original poster and with all due respect, STF Up since the more you respond, the more you look foolish. until you understand your profession as well as your mark's, you will come off as nothing more of as a whiner since you have little evidence or justification to help in your weak arguement. again, i am not trying to flame you but only to help you come with a better overall arguement.

To you, who the hell are you to tell me to S T F U. You brat snot-nosed little punk. Tell me I don't know my profession. You respec little twerp. It is you who doesn't have a clue. I bet your one of these panzy baz nitches that only goes after baby paddies, arent you?

You call me whining, because I would like to see cool features added. You call me a whiner, because I think that BH is too dull and boring, or that we are not adequately equipped to take on, much less beat, master defenders.

what argument? what evidence, or justification. I am merely stating things I would like to see. I am not trying to argue with anyone.

Then, oh this is rich, you come on insulting my intelligence, and degrading me... you I have never f'n met, and then proceed to tell me your not trying to flame. I have a few choice words for you, and none of them I can post here.

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Jedi_Xan wrote:

I have killed a 226k mark. Albeit, I had one helper, but he wasnt even level 60. I am frustrated because everytime I turn around, they get more and we get less.

Why does a BH have ASSAULT : IE KINETIC resist armor. What kind of friggin joke was that.

Oh and lets go there.

We HAVE MBH specific RIFLES, CARBS, AND PISTOLS... Who else? NONE.

bh have these trees to help compliment there other elite profession choices. when you pick-up those you get the certs. doesnt mean you're entitled to all 3.

We are the ONLY profession that hunts an ALPHA class. Who else? NONE. Not unless they have BH

We are the ONLY profession that hunts primarily against ENERGY damaging targets, yet we have KINETIC armor. THAT is BS.

right, so instead of getting all 3 certs change the bhs cert to a type that has more energy resists.

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once again, people making an easy solution difficult.

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Jedi_Xan wrote:

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P__Day wrote:

Armor should be a jedi hunting BH's last worry, your biggest ones should be heals and how to stay out of jedi range, its not that hard 32m.

CM/Bh can kill a full temp, every time the jedi gets close you put him in paralyze and stack electrolyte drains and so on and run out of range.

The original posters problem isnt armor, or anything template wise, its his playing skills.

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first, to answer you... armor is everything. I purchased 8100 energy resist armor, and 1250 stim d's and ruby. Since that time I have lost 0 matches, and stalemated 3. I have beaten 2 226 marks now. I can solo 180 marks all day long. So dont you dare come here questioning my playing skills. I am not the one who has to take on 80k missions because high levels are too hard. I have no problem going up against full templates, I just wish I had some more gadgets to help out.

Adv armor break reduces that 8100 armor to about 20% protection that means.... that my jedi will hit you for about 1000 every 1 - 2 seconds you are in range.

so to the original poster and with all due respect, STF Up since the more you respond, the more you look foolish. until you understand your profession as well as your mark's, you will come off as nothing more of as a whiner since you have little evidence or justification to help in your weak arguement. again, i am not trying to flame you but only to help you come with a better overall arguement.

To you, who the hell are you to tell me to S T F U. You brat snot-nosed little punk. Tell me I don't know my profession. You respec little twerp. It is you who doesn't have a clue. I bet your one of these panzy baz nitches that only goes after baby paddies, arent you?

You call me whining, because I would like to see cool features added. You call me a whiner, because I think that BH is too dull and boring, or that we are not adequately equipped to take on, much less beat, master defenders.

what argument? what evidence, or justification. I am merely stating things I would like to see. I am not trying to argue with anyone.

Then, oh this is rich, you come on insulting my intelligence, and degrading me... you I have never f'n met, and then proceed to tell me your not trying to flame. I have a few choice words for you, and none of them I can post here.

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P__Day wrote:

Adv armor break reduces that 8100 armor to about 20% protection that means.... that my jedi will hit you for about 1000 every 1 - 2 seconds you are in range.

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